Microsoft’s Surface Pro Flex is even more expensive than Apple’s Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro, but we can only think of one thing it does better

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I do love the weight it adds to it, not much bulk though and the iPad floats over the new aluminum keyboard.

Surface just looks cheap and costs more .
 

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This is the most dishonest comparison I've ever seen. The Surface Pro with OLED, 16GB RAM (twice the RAM of iPad Pro), and 512GB is $1349 on preorder right now (regular will be $1499). The iPad Pro with 8GB RAM and 512GB storage is $1299. To get 16 GB of RAM, you would need to get the 1TB iPad Pro model which is $1899. If you want the Surface Pro to match on RAM and storage, it would be $1529 on preorder or $1699 MSRP.

You could argue that there's not enough to do on iPad to warrant 16GB and that would be a sound argument.

You have a lot of options for keyboards and pens. You can use an old keyboard or pen from a previous Surface Pro. You can get the $279 keyboard with slim pen, the $139 keyboard, the $179 keyboard with pen storage, or the new flex keyboard and pen for $449, or the flex keyboard without pen for $349. And you have the old pens and third party pens as well.

The new magic keyboard for iPad Pro is $349 and it wobbles like crazy (see lots of Youtube videos). And the Pencil is $129. $349 + 129 = $478. Last time I checked, $478 is more than $449.
 

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This is the most dishonest comparison I've ever seen. The Surface Pro with OLED, 16GB RAM (twice the RAM of iPad Pro), and 512GB is $1349 on preorder right now (regular will be $1499). The iPad Pro with 8GB RAM and 512GB storage is $1299. To get 16 GB of RAM, you would need to get the 1TB iPad Pro model which is $1899. If you want the Surface Pro to match on RAM and storage, it would be $1529 on preorder or $1699 MSRP.

You could argue that there's not enough to do on iPad to warrant 16GB and that would be a sound argument.

You have a lot of options for keyboards and pens. You can use an old keyboard or pen from a previous Surface Pro. You can get the $279 keyboard with slim pen, the $139 keyboard, the $179 keyboard with pen storage, or the new flex keyboard and pen for $449, or the flex keyboard without pen for $349. And you have the old pens and third party pens as well.

The new magic keyboard for iPad Pro is $349 and it wobbles like crazy (see lots of Youtube videos). And the Pencil is $129. $349 + 129 = $478. Last time I checked, $478 is more than $449.

Actually not dishonest at all, windows requires 16 gb, iPadOs is fine with 8gb or even 6 gb as a base.

So you agree that Microsoft keyboard and pencil is severely overpriced.
 

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This is the most dishonest comparison I've ever seen. The Surface Pro with OLED, 16GB RAM (twice the RAM of iPad Pro), and 512GB is $1349 on preorder right now (regular will be $1499). The iPad Pro with 8GB RAM and 512GB storage is $1299. To get 16 GB of RAM, you would need to get the 1TB iPad Pro model which is $1899. If you want the Surface Pro to match on RAM and storage, it would be $1529 on preorder or $1699 MSRP.

You could argue that there's not enough to do on iPad to warrant 16GB and that would be a sound argument.

You have a lot of options for keyboards and pens. You can use an old keyboard or pen from a previous Surface Pro. You can get the $279 keyboard with slim pen, the $139 keyboard, the $179 keyboard with pen storage, or the new flex keyboard and pen for $449, or the flex keyboard without pen for $349. And you have the old pens and third party pens as well.

The new magic keyboard for iPad Pro is $349 and it wobbles like crazy (see lots of Youtube videos). And the Pencil is $129. $349 + 129 = $478. Last time I checked, $478 is more than $449.

Historically, Apple products don't need as much RAM as other brands. This has been common knowledge for many years. Apple does more with less.
 

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Actually not dishonest at all, windows requires 16 gb, iPadOs is fine with 8gb or even 6 gb as a base.

So you agree that Microsoft keyboard and pencil is severely overpriced.
how do I agree? you can buy the $139 keyboard, the $279 keyboard/pen, the $179 keyboard, the $349 keyboard, or the $449 keyboard/pen or a whole slew of third party options for pens and keyboards. how is that overpriced compared to $478?

yes, iPadOS is okay with 8GB because there's not much that uses RAM because there's not that much you can do on an iPad. it's still just an iPad.
 

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how do I agree? you can buy the $139 keyboard, the $279 keyboard/pen, the $179 keyboard, the $349 keyboard, or the $449 keyboard/pen or a whole slew of third party options for pens and keyboards. how is that overpriced compared to $478?

yes, iPadOS is okay with 8GB because there's not much that uses RAM because there's not that much you can do on an iPad. it's still just an iPad.

Sure and you can use any Bluetooth keyboard with the iPad. But Microsoft released the new surface with the new keyboard and it is more expensive than what Apple just launched. Not too hard of a concept to grasp.

You can do plenty with an iPad, much more than you can do with windows arm. We all remember the last time Microsoft tried to push windows on arm, it was a disaster.

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man, you're still living in 2013. tell me when you get back to reality. the new keyboard doesn't replace the other keyboards. It's just another option. Unlike Apple which has support pages to tell which pencil and keyboard works with which device.
 

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man, you're still living in 2013. tell me when you get back to reality. the new keyboard doesn't replace the other keyboards. It's just another option. Unlike Apple which has support pages to tell which pencil and keyboard works with which device.

The reality is that windows on arm failed in 2013, and surface is a failure today.
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