1. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Why does everyone jump on someone and try breaking down the meaning behind every word to find some fault in their logic on here? This is like a damn sewing circle sometimes. If someone is having a problem with their phone they are having a problem and sometimes sign up for their first time ever to a forum looking for help or advice. if you're tired of reading the same posts don't click on it. I personally come to forums because a lot of times people have some good stuff to say but I must point out that the imore forums have about the most bitter and defensive group of people I have ever seen.
    Nobody is forcing you to stay in our "sewing circle"...the beauty of a forum like this. In the same fashion you suggested people don't click on threads they are tired of reading, I suggest you move past posts you're tired of reading as well...you know, taking some of your own medicine so to speak.

    The problem here is that week in and week out we have someone somewhere that complains about the bending of an iPhone. Now to be honest, OP has been rather civil and very understanding of the responses here, so all in all, there's really no issue with him at all...but you little forum heroes that try and show up to "fight for justice" are so absolutely hilarious in retrospect.

    This is a smart phone that is large in size that has a metal chassis that can bend under certain circumstances...in the same way the hood on my car is made of metal and will bend under certain circumstances. If I sat on my hood and it bent, should I complain to the manufacturer that the car should have been made better? They'd laugh all the way to the door as it shut in my face...and for good reason, because the hood bent due to my activities, not because it is a malleable item in certain situations.

    Apple just happens to be an amazing customer service focused company so they strive to make people happy, even if it costs them a buck...thank god for that because it makes getting service on our devices very easy.

    Yet for some reason the lot of you here with your forum hero capes on want people to just sit back and say "Oh man! That sucks! Apple should do better!" What's next? People dropping their phones and your crew demanding the same kind of response? What about throwing it into the ocean? "OH man! Apple should have known!"

    Give me a break.
    02-26-2015 03:58 PM
  2. adrianeddington's Avatar
    I totally get what you're saying, but it still doesn't mean that the shoe was defective nor was the shoe damaged until you damaged them, albeit unintentionally. Granted, there is an expectation that something should perform admirably under certain conditions, I get it. Having said that, big companies who create a product for $10 (for example's sake) and sell that same product for $210 will almost always replace said product without a fuss. Not because of a defect, but because it benefits them in the long run because you, as a buying customer, will remember the incident and the rendered service. Furthermore, they're not losing any money with the replacement. Anyway, good luck to you with regard to your iPhone.
    This is true. I really don't believe that the iPhone 6 Plus has a flawed design, or that I received a defective unit. Pretty certain that I never used those exact words, but I get that perhaps some people may come to that conclusion from my posts so let me set that record straight and state that I don't believe that to be the case.

    I included "now what" in my thread title because I'm not sure what to do next. For example, the phone is fully functional so I probably could avoid taking it back to Apple and just continue using it as is. I could take it back to Apple for a replacement (paid or free) and just be even more careful next time. I could buy a more protective case like an Otterbox defender or just sell the phone and downgrade back to my old i5.

    The only time I knowingly damaged any iPhone was when I dropped my 4S and broke the screen. Was very upset with MYSELF for being so careless, but at the same time I had no problem paying for $250 for a replacement unit because it was total negligence on my part. I learned my lesson the hard way and ever since I've been overly protective of all my phones that's why this situation has been so frustrating. I honestly feel pretty confident saying that I haven't been careless with my plus.

    Anyway, thanks for the well wishes!
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    02-26-2015 04:01 PM
  3. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    This is true. I really don't believe that the iPhone 6 Plus has a flawed design, or that I received a defective unit. Pretty certain that I never used those exact words, but I get that perhaps some people may come to that conclusion from my posts so let me set that record straight and state that I don't believe that to be the case.

    I included "now what" in my thread title because I'm not sure what to do next. For example, the phone is fully functional so I probably could avoid taking it back to Apple and just continue using it as is. I could take it back to Apple for a replacement (paid or free) and just be even more careful next time. I could buy a more protective case like an Otterbox defender or just sell the phone and downgrade back to my old i5.

    The only time I knowingly damaged any iPhone was when I dropped my 4S and broke the screen. Was very upset with MYSELF for being so careless, but at the same time I had no problem paying for $250 for a replacement unit because it was total negligence on my part. I learned my lesson the hard way and ever since I've been overly protective of all my phones that's why this situation has been so frustrating. I honestly feel pretty confident saying that I haven't been careless with my plus.

    Anyway, thanks for the well wishes!
    It's very refreshing to see some logic and good attitude from new members. Hope you stick around man!
    02-26-2015 04:07 PM
  4. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    It's very refreshing to see some logic and good attitude from new members. Hope you stick around man!
    'Nuf Said...
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    02-26-2015 04:14 PM
  5. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    This is true. I really don't believe that the iPhone 6 Plus has a flawed design, or that I received a defective unit. Pretty certain that I never used those exact words, but I get that perhaps some people may come to that conclusion from my posts so let me set that record straight and state that I don't believe that to be the case.

    I included "now what" in my thread title because I'm not sure what to do next. For example, the phone is fully functional so I probably could avoid taking it back to Apple and just continue using it as is. I could take it back to Apple for a replacement (paid or free) and just be even more careful next time. I could buy a more protective case like an Otterbox defender or just sell the phone and downgrade back to my old i5.

    The only time I knowingly damaged any iPhone was when I dropped my 4S and broke the screen. Was very upset with MYSELF for being so careless, but at the same time I had no problem paying for $250 for a replacement unit because it was total negligence on my part. I learned my lesson the hard way and ever since I've been overly protective of all my phones that's why this situation has been so frustrating. I honestly feel pretty confident saying that I haven't been careless with my plus.

    Anyway, thanks for the well wishes!
    You're very welcome, sir...
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    02-26-2015 04:16 PM
  6. adrianeddington's Avatar
    It's very refreshing to see some logic and good attitude from new members. Hope you stick around man!
    Thanks!
    02-26-2015 04:24 PM
  7. AugustVance's Avatar
    Let us know how the Apple Store appointment goes.
    02-26-2015 08:44 PM
  8. Premium1's Avatar
    Attachment 77987

    Forgot the pic.

    And for the record, I don't wear skinny jeans or carry the phone in my back pocket. Honestly I don't know how this happened or what I can do to prevent it from worsening or occurring again in the future 😩
    It's a flawed design, so nothing you can really do to prevent it. Apple wanted to go lighter so instead of reinforcing the frame which most manufacturers do they didn't and this is the result. Hopefully the 6s+ fixes this issue.
    02-27-2015 09:03 AM
  9. Premium1's Avatar
    Taking responsibility for bending your iPhone? This thread should be joined with the "I don't want anything thicker to add to battery life thread." Can anyone here name me another phone in the history of phones with a bending problem?

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    You won't get that on these forums. Apple is perfect and their products never have any issues. It is always the users fault (well according to many on here anyway)
    02-27-2015 09:05 AM
  10. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    You won't get that on these forums. Apple is perfect and their products never have any issues. It is always the users fault (well according to many on here anyway)
    Out of 75 million iPhones that Apple sold in 3 months, how many were 6 Pluses, you think? Possibly half? Maybe more? You really think a few heavyset people and jackasses who bend their phone out of all those sold qualify the bending thing as a "problem"?
    02-27-2015 09:14 AM
  11. iEd's Avatar
    You won't get that on these forums. Apple is perfect and their products never have any issues. It is always the users fault (well according to many on here anyway)
    Oh boy here we go again.


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    02-27-2015 09:49 AM
  12. qbnkelt's Avatar
    This POS phone seems to have some pretty rough issues, including bending and a screen 'held' on with tape.


    http://forums.imore.com/attachments/...388.118209.jpg

    http://forums.imore.com/attachments/...768.530274.jpg
    Oh dang you beat me to posting a pic of the bent Quasi....er...BlackBerry Passport!!!!

    Yup....the screen is held together with sticky tape....and if you DARE say anything about it, the fanboys talk about your (presumed) weight problem and they tell you that you put it in a vice....
    02-27-2015 09:59 AM
  13. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    It's a flawed design, so nothing you can really do to prevent it. Apple wanted to go lighter so instead of reinforcing the frame which most manufacturers do they didn't and this is the result. Hopefully the 6s+ fixes this issue.
    You expect them to reinforce the device against all kinds of user activities? We'll end up with an iPhone the size of an otter box if this is the case. It's now flawed...flawed implies that there is something inherently wrong with the design of the phone under normal circumstances.

    Is it a heavy weight in the durability department? Certainly not. The materials used to make it should kind of tell you that up front...other manufacturers make their devices out of plastic, which is of course going to be far more durable under even extreme circumstances...but there's a trade off in design and weight. Would you complain that a private jet has a design flaw because it can't withstand the kind of things a military cargo plane can go through with no issue? Or how about a car? Is the Ferrari 458 flawed by design because of the damage it endures in daily use vs. a dodge caravan that is kind of a tank in regards to durability?

    You're trying to convince people that Apple designed the phone improperly and it does not hold up well in every day usage (reflective of your "flawed" comment)...yet the vast majority of consumers who bought these devices haven't had any bending problems.

    You won't get that on these forums. Apple is perfect and their products never have any issues. It is always the users fault (well according to many on here anyway)
    Why would anyone logically start faulting the company for something that isn't a problem? You imply that people who stand against the idea that the design is flawed are some how not being truthful to themselves, but what am I to do when I have a phone that sees all kinds of activities and remains perfectly fine almost 6 months after release? Just assume it will EVENTUALLY bend and start clamoring on about it like the handful that have come to iMore and done?

    Apple is far from perfect...and their products have all kinds of issues...it's just that bending under normal circumstances is NOT one of those issues. Period.
    02-27-2015 11:32 AM
  14. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar

    Why would anyone logically start faulting the company for something that isn't a problem? You imply that people who stand against the idea that the design is flawed are some how not being truthful to themselves, but what am I to do when I have a phone that sees all kinds of activities and remains perfectly fine almost 6 months after release? Just assume it will EVENTUALLY bend and start clamoring on about it like the handful that have come to iMore and done?

    Apple is far from perfect...and their products have all kinds of issues...it's just that bending under normal circumstances is NOT one of those issues. Period.
    And let's be even more real, if it hadn't been for that video of that nasal-voiced hipster purposely putting every inch of his effort into bending that phone in a video that went viral, this wouldn't be that much of a discussion. But that's the generation that we live in. When all these millennials just look at stuff like that and determine that it's a fact that the iPhone 6 Plus has a "bending problem."

    When I get a chance later I'm going to take pictures of my 6 Plus that has literally landed face first on a pavement and brick sidewalk from chest distance (without a case) and show how much it has held up. Aside from the dings and scratches on the back of the thing. And guess what? The phone didn't bend. It'll be a good chance to see how nice the iPad Air 2 camera is also, lol
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    02-27-2015 11:44 AM
  15. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    The only thing I can guesstimate is that this entitlement generation has decided that everything should be built to withstand ANYTHING they can think to put it through...soon, you'll see complaints about 60" LED tv's because people want to carry them around wherever they go and end up breaking them. I mean you should be able to drop your flat screen tv and it not break for sure...must be a design flaw.

    Then...cars that can't be damaged is a legitimate demand, right? I shouldn't have to deal with a wrecked car if I have an accident...it's an accident after all, right? My car should be able to withstand the impact of a tree and look exactly the same as it did before the tree. Design flaw.
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    02-27-2015 11:49 AM
  16. trparky's Avatar
    You see, it's discussions like this on other sites that made me very wary about getting the iPhone 6 Plus. Now that I have it I'm in this ultra-paranoid mode of making sure that I don't do anything that could cause any damage to the device. I have AppleCare+ on the device and if something like bending does happen to it I'll take it into my local Apple Store and have them take care of me. I'll calmly explain how I use, pocket, and handle my device and show that I didn't do anything to intentionally bend the iPhone.

    I have a CandyShell Grip case on it, I keep it in the front pocket of my jeans while standing up but when I sit I take it out of my pocket and keep it in my hands. I wear jeans that are relaxed fit and may even consider getting jeans that are of the "Loose" type which claim to be even "baggier" than relaxed fit. Not only for the device itself but I also like room to carry stuff with me, I tend to load my pockets down with (often) stuff that I don't need. I don't like fitted anything, clothing should be big enough on you that you feel comfortable while wearing it.
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    02-27-2015 12:02 PM
  17. Haalcyon's Avatar
    All I expect from my 6+ is that it be at least as durable as my other phones. I also have a Note 3, Note 4, Note Edge, and G3. I simply expect the 6+ to hold up as well as the others under the same circumstances. I take pretty good care of my devices so I don't expect it to be an issue.
    02-27-2015 12:58 PM
  18. jakdillard's Avatar
    Case Mate carbon fiber alloy

    Adopted leather wrapped case

    Otter Box symmetry

    Power Support air jacket

    Pure gear slim shell

    These are cases that I've used that have pretty hard backs that will decrease the chances of bending in pockets, however right now I use a zagg orbit which is just a bumper and no bends.
    02-27-2015 01:12 PM
  19. qbnkelt's Avatar
    You see, it's discussions like this on other sites that made me very wary about getting the iPhone 6 Plus. Now that I have it I'm in this ultra-paranoid mode of making sure that I don't do anything that could cause any damage to the device. I have AppleCare+ on the device and if something like bending does happen to it I'll take it into my local Apple Store and have them take care of me. I'll calmly explain how I use, pocket, and handle my device and show that I didn't do anything to intentionally bend the iPhone.

    I have a CandyShell Grip case on it, I keep it in the front pocket of my jeans while standing up but when I sit I take it out of my pocket and keep it in my hands. I wear jeans that are relaxed fit and may even consider getting jeans that are of the "Loose" type which claim to be even "baggier" than relaxed fit. Not only for the device itself but I also like room to carry stuff with me, I tend to load my pockets down with (often) stuff that I don't need. I don't like fitted anything, clothing should be big enough on you that you feel comfortable while wearing it.
    I've got that case too, along with several Otterbox Symmetry cases. I've got the 6, not the Plus. But when I do get the Plus it will go in a Symmetry or a Speck Candy Shell Grip.
    02-27-2015 02:08 PM
  20. 50ShadesofDroidx's Avatar
    Just go to the Apple Store. They'll replace it.
    02-27-2015 02:10 PM
  21. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    You won't get that on these forums. Apple is perfect and their products never have any issues. It is always the users fault (well according to many on here anyway)
    Seriously? Let's briefly discuss the "facts" of the OP's situation....again!.....The iPhone 6 Plus, poor design and all, as you put it, was not bent when the OP purchased it. In fact, it was not bent when it was packaged, transported, stocked and sold. It wasn't until the OP's interaction (the application of enough pressure) did the device get bent. In other words, it was the user's fault, and the aforementioned facts are irrefutable.

    Now, let's address Apple. It, like any other business, is NOT perfect neither are the people who work for Apple. With that in mind, and i'll say this for the gazillionth time, their products and services are NOT for everyone. In other words, their products and services are NOT perfect. If they were, then everyone would use them. Please bookmark this page to reference in the future when you have the urge to conclude that many of us deem Apple to be perfect.

    Finally, and what I'm about to say has nothing to do with the OP, too many people have somehow traded away personal responsibility. If a phone gets bent from being sat on while in their back pockets, it's easier to say that the phone should have been built better than it is to say how stupid it was to not remove the phone from your back pocket before sitting.
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    02-27-2015 02:13 PM
  22. kch50428's Avatar
    Finally, and what I'm about to say has nothing to do with the OP, too many people have somehow traded away personal responsibility. If a phone gets bent from being sat on while in their back pockets, it's easier to say that the phone should have been built better than it is to say how stupid it was to not remove the phone from your back pocket before sitting.
    'Nuff said.
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    02-27-2015 02:17 PM
  23. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Finally, and what I'm about to say has nothing to do with the OP, too many people have somehow traded away personal responsibility. If a phone gets bent from being sat on while in their back pockets, it's easier to say that the phone should have been built better than it is to say how stupid it was to not remove the phone from your back pocket before sitting.
    This is why in today's modern society, children live at home without being in school or employed until they're into their 20's, when people get fired they sue rather than learn from the reason they got fired and try harder next time, and why people get luxury items provided to them (like cell phones or internet service) when they can't afford it because their logic is "If this person can have it, I should be able to have it too!"

    Get in line for your government cheese and smart phone folks!
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    02-27-2015 04:12 PM
  24. knotsure's Avatar
    Lol, I like the guy getting mad about the guy bending his phone and not knowing how exactly he did it... My plus bent a little around the volume keys and I was shocked. I was being careful and it was in a case and I still don't know how I did it. I bent it back straight no big deal.
    02-27-2015 05:25 PM
  25. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Lol, I like the guy getting mad about the guy bending his phone and not knowing how exactly he did it... My plus bent a little around the volume keys and I was shocked. I was being careful and it was in a case and I still don't know how I did it. I bent it back straight no big deal.
    That is not reassuring.
    02-27-2015 08:28 PM
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