1. MrDJL's Avatar
    I've been reading online that the Verizon iPhone 5 ships unlocked. CNET even said a Verizon spokesperson confirmed it. But when I spoke with at least a dozen (not joking) Apple in-store and corporate representatives, in addition to one Verizon representative, I was told the iPhone was locked to Verizon. When I asked them if they were sure each time they told me yes. I have T-Mobile, and have saved up the money for the unlocked iPhone. But you guys know how it is with waiting...especially when it's your first iPhone. I know the nano-sim cards for T-Mobile won't be available until mid-October, and I'm fine having the iPhone not able to make phone calls right now. My question is, are the ones currently shipping unlocked? Based on what I've seen, I'm sure the pre-order ones ship unlocked. But I want to be sure that the Verizon ones arriving tomorrow are unlocked so when I get my nano-sim card next month, everything will work properly. I was told that you don't need to be a Verizon customer to buy the Verizon phone in store, and that's what I plan on doing.

    Please get back to me with your thoughts, as I'm interested in what all the tech-experts have to say.
    Thanks in advance!!
    09-24-2012 04:14 PM
  2. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    The CDMA components are locked to Verizon. The gsm aren't.

    http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/24/v...-and-3g-sides/
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    09-24-2012 04:34 PM
  3. MrDJL's Avatar
    Thanks! Being that T-Mobile is GSM, and I don't have a data plan, I will only be using the phone for talking and texting. Does everyone else seem to agree that the Verizon iPhone 5 can be used on T-Mobile's networks?

    Also, could Verizon do a software update that disabled this ability?
    09-24-2012 04:39 PM
  4. hh72385's Avatar
    Thanks! Being that T-Mobile is GSM, and I don't have a data plan, I will only be using the phone for talking and texting. Does everyone else seem to agree that the Verizon iPhone 5 can be used on T-Mobile's networks?

    Also, could Verizon do a software update that disabled this ability?
    I don't mean to rain on your parade but what's the point of having an iPhone without a data plan
    09-24-2012 05:28 PM
  5. MrDJL's Avatar
    I don't mean to rain on your parade but what's the point of having an iPhone without a data plan
    Haha, don't worry about that. I seem to get it a lot. To be honest, I don't need a data plan. Most of the time when I need to access something on the internet, I'm in a place with WiFi that I can connect to. So in my mind I don't really see myself needing one.
    09-24-2012 05:33 PM
  6. thewolfsage's Avatar
    Haha, don't worry about that. I seem to get it a lot. To be honest, I don't need a data plan. Most of the time when I need to access something on the internet, I'm in a place with WiFi that I can connect to. So in my mind I don't really see myself needing one.
    Same here. I'm usually near a wifi connection when I need to go online. Honestly I wish I could either have unlimited data (I'm on Verizon and used to have the grandfathered unlimited plan. I would have paid the unsubsidized price for my phone to keep it, but I couldn't afford it) or just let me but my phone without a data plan and use it over wifi only since I don't use my cellular data anyway for fear of overage charges.
    09-24-2012 06:50 PM
  7. kch50428's Avatar
    Also, could Verizon do a software update that disabled this ability?
    No. Law & FCC rules allowing Verizon to have all the 700mhz spectrum they license forbid locking devices on LTE.
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    09-24-2012 07:00 PM
  8. MrDJL's Avatar
    No. Law & FCC rules allowing Verizon to have all the 700mhz spectrum they license forbid locking devices on LTE.
    What about 3G? Being that I don't have a data plan, and that I'm with T-Mobile, I don't have 4G - only 3G.
    09-24-2012 07:42 PM
  9. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    What about 3G? Being that I don't have a data plan, and that I'm with T-Mobile, I don't have 4G - only 3G.
    Let me ask you a question. Would it really be that much cheaper for in the long run if you paid full retails for a Verizon model to use on tmo vs switching to Verizon and buying one subsided for 200? Right now you ca get unlimited mins and texting and 1gb of data (of which you say you won't really need) for 80 bucks month with access to Verizon's LTE network. I'm sure you know what you're doing I was just really curious because tmo although cheaper for me wasn't that much cheaper for my needs especially if I had to drop that much on an unlocked phone.
    09-24-2012 07:55 PM
  10. kch50428's Avatar
    09-24-2012 08:09 PM
  11. MrDJL's Avatar
    You just made my day. Thanks!!
    09-24-2012 08:13 PM
  12. brijuhaha's Avatar
    Verizon iPhone 5?-image.jpg

    I hope this helps. It's not stable though. I tried it on verizon iPhone 5. Just cut your t-mobile simcard and boom!
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    09-24-2012 08:22 PM
  13. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    Verizon iPhone 5 will be forever unlocked.


    http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheBo...3/mF9nMIkp04A/
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    09-24-2012 08:45 PM
  14. MrDJL's Avatar

    I hope this helps. It's not stable though. I tried it on verizon iPhone 5. Just cut your t-mobile simcard and boom!
    Thanks for the help! Did you have to cut any thickness off the card, or are you using it without the tray?
    09-25-2012 06:16 AM
  15. TheMaccaUK's Avatar
    Who told you that you don't need to be a Verizon customer to buy a Verizon iPhone in store? I've been doing a lot of research on this as I'd like to buy a prepaid Verizon iPhone 5 for exporting to the UK, but have been told by multiple forum users there is no such thing. You can only buy a Verizon/Sprint 5 on a 2yr deal.

    This seems to be true if you try to buy the 4S from eithers web site. There is no off-contract or prepaid option available
    09-25-2012 06:54 AM
  16. siddfinch's Avatar
    Hi all - I've been doing some reading up on this. Is there a downside to using someone else's upgrade on Verizon, then getting a nano SIM fro AT&T and using it on their network? Can I still use simultaneous calling/data on AT&T if I do it this way? Will it work on AT&T's LTE?
    09-25-2012 09:58 AM
  17. kch50428's Avatar
    Will it work on AT&T's LTE?
    No. There are different variants of iPhone5 produced & sold in North America - one covers AT&T LTE, the other Verizon LTE - they operate on different radio bands - and they are not compatible.
    09-25-2012 10:02 AM
  18. brijuhaha's Avatar
    The thickness doesnt really matter. Just pit it on the sim tray and voala you good to go
    09-25-2012 11:31 AM
  19. LCW's Avatar
    the thickness does matter - i cut down an non-active SIM i had lying around for grins, and had to shave down the thickness before it would fit... the slot on the phone housing is only so wide
    09-25-2012 11:54 AM

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