1. xlipstickandbruisesx's Avatar
    Both phones have the positives and negatives and I think for many iPhone users nothing outshines their choice of product/os. For me personally the only place android handsets "outshine" iPhones is with the ability to completely customize your screen(s). I do like high end android phones but there are so many different specs, versions, levels of quality and companies producing them I think it is much harder to get a cohesive and factual opinion on the OS. Even though I like the phone I currently have (Evo 3D) I prefer everything on my friends iPhones's.
    10-09-2011 02:36 AM
  2. ayantwan's Avatar
    I don't think any Android phone will ever overtake iOS. I have a few friends who own android phones and one friend told me this exactly "Droids are better, dude it's $60 for this or $200 for an iPhone it's such a waste of money droid can do more stuff anyway"

    Android is just becoming a second-thing to iOS. Sure, this device is beautiful, yeah all Nexus are, but that doesn't mean I am going to drop my (imaginary) iPhone for this!
    10-09-2011 02:58 AM
  3. Farmdreads's Avatar
    iPhone - it just works.
    10-09-2011 03:55 AM
  4. CarrieMK's Avatar
    What it boils down to is personal preference and choice. I have never understood the, for lack of a better term, "war" between Apple and Android. I think the more choices people have, the better. To be honest, the main reason my son is the only person who has any Apple products is the cost. He bought his own iPod and the family pitched in and got him an iPad for Christmas. I just can't afford those things. For the record, I don't have a Galaxy tab either, but I do have an Acer laptop and Asus netbook because I was able to catch them on sale. I also have an NS4G that I was able to upgrade to for for free. It isn't that I don't like Apple, it is that for those of us with less disposable income their products overall are just priced above us.

    My son wants the iPhone very much and I am going to do my best to reward his academic achievement with one. He hasn't asked me for one because he knows I can't afford it. I feel really bad as a parent because I have to say no a lot of times because of money, but maybe that is part of the reason he is so driven.
    10-09-2011 07:09 AM
  5. Eileen89's Avatar
    No worries here. Tried several of the top Android phones out there and always ended up back with my iPhone within a week or two.


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    10-09-2011 07:10 AM
  6. Eileen89's Avatar
    My son wants the iPhone very much and I am going to do my best to reward his academic achievement with one. He hasn't asked me for one because he knows I can't afford it. I feel really bad as a parent because I have to say no a lot of times because of money, but maybe that is part of the reason he is so driven.
    It's great that your son is doing well in school, however, you shouldn't feel bad about saying no. I know it's hard, but part of being a parent is saying no to our children. They probably won't understand why at this point in their life, but when they get older they'll certainly understand....


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    10-09-2011 07:18 AM
  7. CarrieMK's Avatar
    It's great that your son is doing well in school, however, you shouldn't feel bad about saying no. I know it's hard, but part of being a parent is saying no to our children. They probably won't understand why at this point in their life, but when they get older they'll certainly understand....


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    Thank you. I believe he already understands because he doesn't ask and doesn't complain, which makes me love him even more, if that is possible
    10-09-2011 07:38 AM
  8. xlipstickandbruisesx's Avatar
    Yes Carrie don't be afraid to say no haha. I don't have kids but I did grow up in a single parent home and had to work hard and either purchase myself or pay the difference between the basics and what I wanted. It helped me learn the value of a dollar and gave me a strong work ethic. I grew up in a wealthy area and I know plenty of people that were handed anything and everything and most of them turned out ok too but while it might suck at times as a teenager to not be able to have the latest and the greatest in the end I appreciate and respect my mother for how hard she worked to provide for me and it made me appreciate the luxury items I did get even more than if I was able to get whatever I wanted when I wanted. It sounds like you are doing a great job with your son and I'm sure he shares the same sentiments as I do at least most of the time lol
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    10-09-2011 08:22 AM
  9. DrewBear's Avatar
    I'm a Nexus S user it works flawlessly and has no carrier blot wear and has no manufacture UI. Android phones that have blot wear and manufacture UI suck...Blot wear slows them down...I truly believe if all android phones ran Google raw software like the Nexus, android would be a better experience for all its users.
    You may be right, but Android is theoretically open-source, so the manufacturers & carriers can do what they want (to some extent) on any particular phone. But consumers can choose between "pure" Android or any of the skins (TouchWiz, Sense, Motoblur, etc.). They have overwhelmingly chosen the skins over "pure". None of the three Nexus models have sold very well at all.

    Everyone expects that the next generation of Goog-rola phones will run "pure" Android. We'll see if Samsung, HTC, etc. are pressured to go along and strip away their layers and the carrier bloatware. I doubt it.
    10-09-2011 01:06 PM
  10. DrewBear's Avatar
    What it boils down to is personal preference and choice. I have never understood the, for lack of a better term, "war" between Apple and Android. I think the more choices people have, the better.
    I agree. But people should understand the choices they are making. That's why these debates (not wars) about what works better on one platform or another should hopefully be informative rather than simply mud-slinging rants.

    Here's an example. Let's say the Nexus Prime turns out to have a 4.6" high resolution display that matches the Retina display in the iPhone. That will be great for someone who needs a larger display because they prefer larger fonts and have large hands. But it won't be that great for someone who has smaller hands and prefers to use the phone in one hand. A larger display also requires more power, so battery life could be compromised. That might not matter for someone who's willing to carry a spare battery or always has access to a car charger.

    Pros and cons to everything. Like you said, everyone is free to choose what package of features and compromises they prefer. Just be sure you understand what the pros & cons actually are.

    A nephew asked my advice a few months ago about selecting his first smartphone. He had a long list of reasons why he wanted one of the 4G Android phones. I didn't bother to try and talk him into waiting for the 5th gen. iPhone, but did warn him that most reviews said that battery life stunk with the 4G phones. He said he understood that, but his friends assured him that he would be able to install power management apps and tweak it so that battery life was fine.

    So he got the 4G Android phone and a couple of weeks later sheepishly emailed me saying that battery life sucked big time. But otherwise he loved the phone, so he'll have to adapt by either carrying a charger or a spare battery. He's in college and carries a pack all the time anyways, so it's no big deal for him. But that might not be the case for someone else.

    Few of us here have hands-on experience with every single phone that comes along. But many of us do read lots of reviews. So note any critical comments about a phone or OS and then do some research about it. And preferably spend time actually using a phone. These are touchscreen devices and UI responsiveness is a huge deal that affects practically everything you want to accomplish on it. Any lag, stuttering or sluggishness will get annoying very quickly.
    10-09-2011 01:40 PM
  11. D0minoid's Avatar
    Too many phones coming out all the time. Too many different versions of software on all the Android phones. I'll stick with Apple who produces 1 phone a year and all the updates come out at the same time, not a separate update for the 3GS, then months later for the 4, and maybe an update for the 3G. I'm not a fan of the openness they allow with the APP market. My wife has an Android and every time she downloads an app she has to worry about some sort of Malware. I'll stick with Apple.

    Why does she have to worry? I believe most Malware reported has been with apps from 3rd party app stores. If she is that worried they have apps for that.
    10-09-2011 02:02 PM
  12. diamonddialogue's Avatar
    To each his/her own.
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    10-09-2011 04:53 PM
  13. Premium1's Avatar
    there is somewhat of a choice if you hack a phone with a manufacturer UI but in reality the UI is still running in the background and slows down the phone regardless. I believe that the average consumer that wants a phone to work out the box will not know the difference between a raw Google experience and an HTC EVO or any other Android device on its Manufacturer UI. All they see is brand EVO, Moto Droid, Galaxy. I wish when you bought an Android phone that when you start it up you have a choice between Manufacture UI or true Google OS. All these fast phones with all the amazing specs would simply run better and faster and I think then Android would have a real argument about being head to head competitor to Iphone but as it stands it is impossible as the android manufacture take that away by competing with each other on specs. If Google does finalize the deal with motorola and release Motorola phones as pure google phones I think only then will there be real competition between Apple Iphone and a true Google Android phone. I think these new phones are amazing both Android and Iphones but the best is yet to come. IMO, I believe that Google should buy RIM and Palm OS. I have been saying that for years. It would stabilize email security and make Android more business friendly. Apple has pretty much taken over schools and hospitals so Google better go after the business customer.
    Well if you hack the phone you can remove the UI so essentially it would be a stock experience. I agree about the manufacturers always trying to one up each other for the best specs which is why it is hard for many to buy an android since a month or so later it is no longer the flagship and could get passed over or 2nd in line for updates.
    10-09-2011 04:55 PM
  14. Corey's Avatar
    I hope Ice Cream Sandwich is excellent. I hope it introduces new features and new UI touches. I want it to raise the bar. Then I hope iOS does the same, and Windows Phone as well, and even RIM. I may or may not buy one of their products, but I hope each continues to raise the bar. Last thing I want to see is stagnation in products and OS development. We've had plenty of that in the past. In the end, it's better for us that the competition continues to make things difficult for each other.
    10-09-2011 05:06 PM
  15. Premium1's Avatar
    I hope Ice Cream Sandwich is excellent. I hope it introduces new features and new UI touches. I want it to raise the bar. Then I hope iOS does the same, and Windows Phone as well, and even RIM. I may or may not buy one of their products, but I hope each continues to raise the bar. Last thing I want to see is stagnation in products and OS development. We've had plenty of that in the past. In the end, it's better for us that the competition continues to make things difficult for each other.
    Agree innovation fuels competition. It is always a good thing when these companies continue to raise the bar rather than being stuck with the same thing year after year.
    10-09-2011 05:20 PM
  16. Raptor007's Avatar
    Sorry but no. This is completely different from Android fragmentation. You know that. I've heard this argument so many times and it's completely bull crap.

    Yes, some features are exclusive to newer models, but iOS devices still receive the updates and compatibility... Most Android phones do not.

    And if you want to talk about obsolescence, iOS has absolutely nothing on Android. Every 3 months a new Android phone comes out from HTC, Samsung, etc... and it has a new firmware version or fancy new hardware. Android users scramble to replace their 3 month old devices with the latest thing, because their device probably won't get the update for a month or two, or never.

    My friend had a Milestone (Droid, but in Canada) and it was almost a year before he got the firmware update to 2.2... And when he did get it, it crippled his phone to hell making it way slower than before (and slower than the 3GS I had at the time).
    Sorry, but you are not 100% correct, Apple did NOT fix a known bug in the iOS for earlier iPhones and that is a known fact. Regardless, as others have posted get the OS and Phone that fits your needs. I find it useless to bicker that iOS is better than Android on a PRO IPHONE FORUM. Seems rather one sided don't you think.
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    10-09-2011 05:36 PM
  17. CalifJewls's Avatar
    I don't ever see anything outshining the iPhone ever...they all keep trying and no one comes close in my opinion...

    Just sold my iPhone4 to buy the iPhone4S and Ive been using the Droid Incredible for the last 3 hours and Im ready to toss this thing out the window! Oh it already needs the battery charged, shocking!!
    10-09-2011 05:49 PM
  18. SkiPPy087's Avatar
    No...............
    10-09-2011 05:54 PM
  19. diggity's Avatar
    Why worry about something that doesn't affect me?
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    10-09-2011 06:09 PM
  20. Premium1's Avatar
    Yes you can hack the phone but hacking will not always function the way Android is meant to run sometimes you loose certain abilities within the OS. I am certain if Google just stabalize the use of Android OS it will for certainly shine as a great OS. If you think about it any manufacture can out do Apple with specs but.the true genius is the IOS and Apple UI. Android OS and UI in its raw state I believe goes head to head with Apple UI and IOS. All these arguments about specs is secondary IMO as you can have the best specs in the world but if your UI sucks its worthless.

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    Well the companies don't develop the os like apple does since everything is in house with apple. Since android is open and these manufacturers pretty much just slap their skin on top of it and don't really do much other than that, that is why IOS shines with its smooth and fluidness.
    10-09-2011 07:54 PM
  21. IIJBII's Avatar
    I know this may start a furry but "open" is great, but how does it apply to the masses and general consumers.

    Both android and ios are great. It depends on your needs.

    Bottom line is I'm glad we have the freedom of choices/options. It's breeds developemet and pushes tech technology.
    10-09-2011 08:19 PM
  22. LCW's Avatar
    the fact that the Prime is a samsung device makes it something i would not consider...
    10-09-2011 09:02 PM
  23. bcarruth62's Avatar
    I jumped on the Android bandwagon last year, tried the Aria, returned it and then go the Atrix. After all of that I came back to iPhone for 3 simple reasons:
    1. Ease of use - pretty much ready to use right of the box, put in email address and good to go. With the Android it would almost take me a week to get it close to what I wanted.
    2. Battery life - moderate user, battery would die on Android within 8 hours, on iPhone could last couple of days on one charge.
    3. Apps - although Android is getting much better in this department they, in my opinion, won't catch Apple anytime soon.
    For those of you that like Droid, great happy for you but I'm not worried about them taking over the smartphone world, at least not my world.
    10-09-2011 09:11 PM
  24. Premium1's Avatar
    I jumped on the Android bandwagon last year, tried the Aria, returned it and then go the Atrix. After all of that I came back to iPhone for 3 simple reasons:
    1. Ease of use - pretty much ready to use right of the box, put in email address and good to go. With the Android it would almost take me a week to get it close to what I wanted.
    2. Battery life - moderate user, battery would die on Android within 8 hours, on iPhone could last couple of days on one charge.
    3. Apps - although Android is getting much better in this department they, in my opinion, won't catch Apple anytime soon.
    For those of you that like Droid, great happy for you but I'm not worried about them taking over the smartphone world, at least not my world.
    I am about to do the same thing. I have had a bunch of androids and am due for an upgrade and the 4s is looking like what I will go with. At first I wanted a bit larger screen but at the rate android phone's screens are going up they are bordering on tablet size. That plus the pretty bad battery life is making me think twice about another android. lte speeds are nice but I am away at school 10 months of the year and don't have lte there so pretty much its a waste. Not to mention I don't download anything that the extra half second is needed.
    10-09-2011 09:30 PM
  25. iamcdavis's Avatar
    I have very mixed feelings about this. I have to say the specs from the Nexus Prime sound pretty impressive and should definitely be considered competition, but I also think that Apple's iPhone's are so well established that there's no way the Nexus Prime and Ice Cream Sandwich can get as much hype as the 4s.
    10-09-2011 10:43 PM
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