1. Ipheuria's Avatar
    To this point I do not believe it is possible. I just cannot see Apple making this an option since they are so proud of these changes.
    I feel the same way Apple might tweak the look in the future but I don't think it will change drastically. As someone on beta 3 I've gotten used to the icons I used to hate they don't bother me anymore simply because I have gotten past it. This is what they are most likely banking on will happen with the people who don't like it after release and I feel like that will be a very small percentage of users at that.
    07-18-2013 09:47 AM
  2. sanc333's Avatar
    my one of the favourite features (many could disagree) is when u set a panorama photo as your background and u move the phone in your hand by parallax effect you are able to see whole photo.. although it is sounding weird but in actual usage its kind of very good
    07-18-2013 12:47 PM
  3. GibMcFragger's Avatar
    I ran b1, b2, and b3. About a week ago I restored back to 6.1.4 because of a few apps that i use regularly weren't working properly under iOS7. I never realized how much I liked iOS7 until I got rid of it, lol. Now I am back on b3 and I definitely like the look better. The overall look for iOS7 is better than all the previous versions of iOS. Yes it's shocking at first, because its such a drastic change from what we are all used to seeing. Once you get over the shock and play with it for a while, I think most of us will end up preferring it.
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    07-18-2013 03:04 PM
  4. Bazza1's Avatar
    Oh, I'll give 7 a go once it is released to the public, if for no better reason to see what gets 'improved'. That said, I'm running an iPhone 4, so I'm expecting a number of the useful features to be beyond the capabilities of the 4.

    Then again, the bigger question might be, when I eventually upgrade my 4, will anything in the upcoming iOS encourage me to stick with Apple's iDevice? Or, after 5 years, is Apple simply rearranging non-skeumorphic deck chairs on a virtual Titanic? Where's the 'insanely great one more thing' when it comes to the iPhone and it's iOS?
    07-18-2013 04:48 PM
  5. finn5975's Avatar
    Oh, I'll give 7 a go once it is released to the public, if for no better reason to see what gets 'improved'. That said, I'm running an iPhone 4, so I'm expecting a number of the useful features to be beyond the capabilities of the 4.

    Then again, the bigger question might be, when I eventually upgrade my 4, will anything in the upcoming iOS encourage me to stick with Apple's iDevice? Or, after 5 years, is Apple simply rearranging non-skeumorphic deck chairs on a virtual Titanic? Where's the 'insanely great one more thing' when it comes to the iPhone and it's iOS?
    I think we are getting to the point where maturation is in effect. There may or may not be another great 'one more thing', but conversely, I'm not certain other big players like Samsung are necessarily pulling off 'great' things either, short of putting a laundry list of gimmicks into a device and calling it innovation.
    07-18-2013 09:28 PM
  6. BLiNK's Avatar
    i will absolutely go to iOS 7. cannot think of one reason why not

    some people just over think this stuff way too much lol
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    07-18-2013 09:47 PM
  7. swarlos's Avatar
    I ran b1, b2, and b3. About a week ago I restored back to 6.1.4 because of a few apps that i use regularly weren't working properly under iOS7. I never realized how much I liked iOS7 until I got rid of it, lol. Now I am back on b3 and I definitely like the look better. The overall look for iOS7 is better than all the previous versions of iOS. Yes it's shocking at first, because its such a drastic change from what we are all used to seeing. Once you get over the shock and play with it for a while, I think most of us will end up preferring it.
    Same thing happened to me. I had to downgrade to 6.1.4 to get a replacement as my sleep/wake button was starting to not work anymore. It was only two days but it felt like an eternity I really wanted iOS 7 back on my new iPhone LOL.


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    07-18-2013 11:06 PM
  8. Duvi's Avatar
    I've been going back and forth on whether I want to lose my jailbreak... I have iOS 7 on my work phone (don't use it much).
    07-18-2013 11:13 PM
  9. BLiNK's Avatar
    I've been going back and forth on whether I want to lose my jailbreak... I have iOS 7 on my work phone (don't use it much).
    wait a minute!!! Duvi jailbreaks now??? lol i remember when you were anti-jb

    crazy times i tell ya
    07-18-2013 11:31 PM
  10. swarlos's Avatar
    wait a minute!!! Duvi jailbreaks now??? lol i remember when you were anti-jb

    crazy times i tell ya
    Everybody has a breaking point haha. I was pro JB from day 1!! How I played the original Tap Tap. Good times 😁!


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    07-18-2013 11:47 PM
  11. Bazza1's Avatar
    I think we are getting to the point where maturation is in effect. There may or may not be another great 'one more thing', but conversely, I'm not certain other big players like Samsung are necessarily pulling off 'great' things either, short of putting a laundry list of gimmicks into a device and calling it innovation.
    I'll agree that maturation of the smartphone market may be in effect here - by all manufacturers and mobile OSs. Time was though when that's when Apple could pull a rabbit out of a hat with its 'one more thing' on a product or tech category.

    That said, re: "...short of putting a laundry list of gimmicks into a device and calling it innovation" - you mean like Newsstand, Passbook, Siri? While still failing to fully grasp multi-tasking and fix apps like Mail.

    07-19-2013 07:46 AM
  12. mdntblu's Avatar
    Pretty sure OP will upgrade eventually or switch to a different platform. There is no reason not to upgrade. Why would you want an OS that isn't supported by your favorite apps. All apps will be made for iOS7. One day a feature will be on your favorite app and it doesn't even let you update it because you're still stuck on iOS6. I love the way iOS 7 looks and works. It's Fantastical!!!
    07-20-2013 01:47 AM
  13. finn5975's Avatar
    That said, re: "...short of putting a laundry list of gimmicks into a device and calling it innovation" - you mean like Newsstand, Passbook, Siri? While still failing to fully grasp multi-tasking and fix apps like Mail.

    Really? So Apple has a myriad of commercials touting newsstand and passbook as the next big thing? No, I didn't think so. (Siri yes)

    So if not having the 'one more thing' be the ability to bump a phone to share a playlist, eye scroll a page (works great in the dark) or pause a video if I glance away....I'll be just fine. Just a few less things I have to disable to keep from cluttering my experience.
    Last edited by finn5975; 07-20-2013 at 11:58 AM.
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    07-20-2013 01:55 AM
  14. ITunes Matched's Avatar
    One of the only reasons I might think of not upgrading to iOS 7 is change in the music app in how Albums are displayed. I don't enjoy scrolling through 40+ albums of my favorite artist (and songs in the that album) to get to their newest album. Worked better to be collapsed, click on the album and then see the tracks in that album. I also wish folders showed more icons than 9 per page like iOS 6, this is especially annoying on the iPad.
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    07-20-2013 07:56 AM
  15. Bazza1's Avatar
    Really? So Apple has a myriad of commercials touting newsstand and passbook as the next big thing? No, I didn't think so. (Siri yes)

    So if not having the 'one more thing' be the ability to bump a phone to share a playlist, eye scroll a page (works great in the dark) or pause a video if I glance away....I'll be just find. Just a few less things I have to disable to keep from cluttering my experience.
    Sorry. I thought the comment was '...putting a laundry list of gimmicks into a device...', not 'creating ads promoting gimmicks'. I'll agree, Apple hasn't promoted its more notable upgrade iOS gimmicks in ads (just as well really), preferring to flog them to the Macoyltes at conferences and then making a big deal of the fact that some of the apps may actually work as expected in the next iOS. Yeah, that's cutting age innovation.

    Apple seems to be devoting more time in its advertising promoting xenophobia rather than the product itself. God Bless America: its designed in California - albeit by a Brit.

    As for other OSs gimmicky stuff like eye scroll, pause a video when you look away - yeah, absolutely, I'll agree.
    But I will point out those are features in (here I'm guessing you're inferring Android) the stock version of the current OS, but rather are additional 'features' built into particular manufacturer's devices. Users are free to choose the manufacturer and/or disable these apps as they so wish. Choice. You remember choice? Never a hallmark of the iOS experience (short of wallpapers and shifting icons to a different page/order), I daresay its something even some iOS users would appreciate - however gimmicky they want to make their own personal device.

    I guess the upshot of all this is, I'm not seeing anything in the comments, reviews or user experiences of the Beta iOS 7 to suggest that this is a new version of the current OS. Its not new. Or an upgrade. Its a patch. At best, a point update - wrapped in pretty new icons. But Apple never talks of patches - always updates. Certainly nothing there (yet) as 'One more thing'.

    Disappointing.
    07-20-2013 08:47 AM
  16. vakama94's Avatar
    I want to upgrade but since I have an iPod Touch 4G that may not be possible. Also, I don't have the money to get a new iPod so I guess I'll left in the dust for a while.


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    07-20-2013 09:26 AM
  17. finn5975's Avatar
    Sorry. I thought the comment was '...putting a laundry list of gimmicks into a device...', not 'creating ads promoting gimmicks'. I'll agree, Apple hasn't promoted its more notable upgrade iOS gimmicks in ads (just as well really), preferring to flog them to the Macoyltes at conferences and then making a big deal of the fact that some of the apps may actually work as expected in the next iOS. Yeah, that's cutting age innovation.

    Apple seems to be devoting more time in its advertising promoting xenophobia rather than the product itself. God Bless America: its designed in California - albeit by a Brit.

    As for other OSs gimmicky stuff like eye scroll, pause a video when you look away - yeah, absolutely, I'll agree.
    But I will point out those are features in (here I'm guessing you're inferring Android) the stock version of the current OS, but rather are additional 'features' built into particular manufacturer's devices. Users are free to choose the manufacturer and/or disable these apps as they so wish. Choice. You remember choice? Never a hallmark of the iOS experience (short of wallpapers and shifting icons to a different page/order), I daresay its something even some iOS users would appreciate - however gimmicky they want to make their own personal device.

    I guess the upshot of all this is, I'm not seeing anything in the comments, reviews or user experiences of the Beta iOS 7 to suggest that this is a new version of the current OS. Its not new. Or an upgrade. Its a patch. At best, a point update - wrapped in pretty new icons. But Apple never talks of patches - always updates. Certainly nothing there (yet) as 'One more thing'.

    Disappointing.
    What is it exactly that you want? Are you upset that there isn't a widget to do the same thing for you that opening an app does? Are you upset that IOS 7 doesn't give you face unlock, or folder preview, etc? Or is it that you cannot 'choose' your keyboard, live wallpaper, or other third party function? One of my favorite gripes by those who make it known to all as to why they are 'jumping ship' to android is that they are sick of the 'walled garden' and want a platform where Apple doesn't make all of their choices for them. So they scream from their pedestal of how it's good riddance to Apple....and then the 'I'm back' thread inevitably pops up several months later. Why? Because they soon realize that they experienced tradeoffs to have all of that 'choice'. They realized that they spent more time customizing their device to try and get it to work efficiently than they did just using it. They realized in order to minimize the lag, or poor battery life, they had to disable most if not all of the 'innovative features' for the phone to run as they wish. Why do you think that in the iphone 5 forum, there are maybe 5 or 7 threads that get new posts daily whereas in the GS4 there are nearly 5x as many? Because they are littered with people trying to figure out what the hell they just did to screw up their device, or how to fix something that isn't working as planned. But alas, hail 'choice'!

    There is truly no reason to take this any further. You are disappointed with IOS 7 and its patch job. You are disappointed in Apple and their lack of a 'one more thing'. Well, stand in line with everyone else then. Because from the Nexus 4, to the HTC One X, to the RAZR to the GS4.....there hasn't been a 'one more thing' for quite some time....
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    07-20-2013 12:16 PM
  18. kch50428's Avatar
    ...I'm not seeing anything in the comments, reviews or user experiences of the Beta iOS 7 to suggest that this is a new version of the current OS. Its not new. Or an upgrade. Its a patch. At best, a point update - wrapped in pretty new icons. But Apple never talks of patches - always updates. Certainly nothing there (yet) as 'One more thing'.

    Disappointing.
    You don't see anything because you chose not to. Read any of Rene's iMore Blog articles regarding iOS7.... not that any of that would change your mind... and you're disappointed because you want to be.
    07-20-2013 12:27 PM
  19. Fausty82's Avatar
    What is it exactly that you want? Are you upset that there isn't a widget to do the same thing for you that opening an app does? Are you upset that IOS 7 doesn't give you face unlock, or folder preview, etc? Or is it that you cannot 'choose' your keyboard, live wallpaper, or other third party function? One of my favorite gripes by those who make it known to all as to why they are 'jumping ship' to android is that they are sick of the 'walled garden' and want a platform where Apple doesn't make all of their choices for them. So they scream from their pedestal of how it's good riddance to Apple....and then the 'I'm back' thread inevitably pops up several months later. Why? Because they soon realize that they experienced tradeoffs to have all of that 'choice'. They realized that they spent more time customizing their device to try and get it to work efficiently than they did just using it. They realized in order to minimize the lag, or poor battery life, they had to disable most if not all of the 'innovative features' for the phone to run as they wish. Why do you think that in the iphone 5 forum, there are maybe 5 or 7 threads that get new posts daily whereas in the GS4 there are nearly 5x as many? Because they are littered with people trying to figure out what the hell they just did to screw up their device, or how to fix something that isn't working as planned. But alas, hail 'choice'!

    There is truly no reason to take this any further. You are disappointed with IOS 7 and its patch job. You are disappointed in Apple and their lack of a 'one more thing'. Well, stand in line with everyone else then. Because from the Nexus 4, to the HTC One X, to the RAZR to the GS4.....there hasn't been a 'one more thing' for quite some time....
    Bingo. This is a spot-on analysis, and I could not have said it better.
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    07-20-2013 12:54 PM
  20. Fausty82's Avatar
    Sorry. I thought the comment was '...putting a laundry list of gimmicks into a device...', not 'creating ads promoting gimmicks'. I'll agree, Apple hasn't promoted its more notable upgrade iOS gimmicks in ads (just as well really), preferring to flog them to the Macoyltes at conferences and then making a big deal of the fact that some of the apps may actually work as expected in the next iOS. Yeah, that's cutting age innovation.

    Apple seems to be devoting more time in its advertising promoting xenophobia rather than the product itself. God Bless America: its designed in California - albeit by a Brit.

    As for other OSs gimmicky stuff like eye scroll, pause a video when you look away - yeah, absolutely, I'll agree.
    But I will point out those are features in (here I'm guessing you're inferring Android) the stock version of the current OS, but rather are additional 'features' built into particular manufacturer's devices. Users are free to choose the manufacturer and/or disable these apps as they so wish. Choice. You remember choice? Never a hallmark of the iOS experience (short of wallpapers and shifting icons to a different page/order), I daresay its something even some iOS users would appreciate - however gimmicky they want to make their own personal device.

    I guess the upshot of all this is, I'm not seeing anything in the comments, reviews or user experiences of the Beta iOS 7 to suggest that this is a new version of the current OS. Its not new. Or an upgrade. Its a patch. At best, a point update - wrapped in pretty new icons. But Apple never talks of patches - always updates. Certainly nothing there (yet) as 'One more thing'.

    Disappointing.
    At the risk of you reading this as "don't the the screen door hit ya..." comment, it’s time to understand that you have choices.

    If what Apple offers isn't getting it done for you, why whine about it? Move on. If Apple's offering works, use it and enjoy it. If not, move your feet on down the road and find something that works for you. Life is too short to fight/whine/complain... save yourself (and us) the grief and get an Android, WP or BlackBerry and live your life.
    kch50428 likes this.
    07-20-2013 12:58 PM
  21. bunjy's Avatar
    What is it exactly that you want? Are you upset that there isn't a widget to do the same thing for you that opening an app does? Are you upset that IOS 7 doesn't give you face unlock, or folder preview, etc? Or is it that you cannot 'choose' your keyboard, live wallpaper, or other third party function? One of my favorite gripes by those who make it known to all as to why they are 'jumping ship' to android is that they are sick of the 'walled garden' and want a platform where Apple doesn't make all of their choices for them. So they scream from their pedestal of how it's good riddance to Apple....and then the 'I'm back' thread inevitably pops up several months later. Why? Because they soon realize that they experienced tradeoffs to have all of that 'choice'. They realized that they spent more time customizing their device to try and get it to work efficiently than they did just using it. They realized in order to minimize the lag, or poor battery life, they had to disable most if not all of the 'innovative features' for the phone to run as they wish. Why do you think that in the iphone 5 forum, there are maybe 5 or 7 threads that get new posts daily whereas in the GS4 there are nearly 5x as many? Because they are littered with people trying to figure out what the hell they just did to screw up their device, or how to fix something that isn't working as planned. But alas, hail 'choice'!

    There is truly no reason to take this any further. You are disappointed with IOS 7 and its patch job. You are disappointed in Apple and their lack of a 'one more thing'. Well, stand in line with everyone else then. Because from the Nexus 4, to the HTC One X, to the RAZR to the GS4.....there hasn't been a 'one more thing' for quite some time....
    Great summary. As someone who has used multiple platforms, there's no truer statement than OS choice is all about trade-offs. While I liked many of the features of each platform I used (BlackBerry/Android), each had limitations that were frustrating. Truth be told, so does iOS. However, weighing all the pros and cons, iOS comes out on top for me for overall user experience, so I'm sticking with it for now and will definitely be upgrading to iOS 7 when it's available to the public.
    07-20-2013 01:40 PM
  22. tristandc's Avatar
    I don't know how a thread asking about updating to iOS 7 turned into an Android vs iOS war, but okay. I do plan on updating my iPad Mini to iOS 7; I don't really see the argument as to why someone wouldn't.. It's the latest software form Apple, just not updating because of the new visual design (Long overdue BTW) and basing everything on a few betas is crazy. I think it will be a great update. I agree it would have been nice to see some widgets ( and yes they are useful ) but oh we'll. like the previous poster said, there are trade offs with every OS. IOS sacrifices customization and some features for excellent user experience and seamless performance. Android sacrifices some performance for more features. I don't pick one over the other. I have a iPad for a tablet and a GS3 for my phone. The main problem with Android now is the bloat and garbage that manufacturers put on their phones nowadays. Sure some Samsung features are useful but the phones suffer from unstable battery life and occasional lag. Stock jellybean (ala Nexus 4) is pretty much on par with iOS in terms of performance; Google has done a really good job with stock Android. But for some reason people flock to Galaxy phones.
    07-20-2013 06:25 PM
  23. swarlos's Avatar
    What is it exactly that you want? Are you upset that there isn't a widget to do the same thing for you that opening an app does? Are you upset that IOS 7 doesn't give you face unlock, or folder preview, etc? Or is it that you cannot 'choose' your keyboard, live wallpaper, or other third party function? One of my favorite gripes by those who make it known to all as to why they are 'jumping ship' to android is that they are sick of the 'walled garden' and want a platform where Apple doesn't make all of their choices for them. So they scream from their pedestal of how it's good riddance to Apple....and then the 'I'm back' thread inevitably pops up several months later. Why? Because they soon realize that they experienced tradeoffs to have all of that 'choice'. They realized that they spent more time customizing their device to try and get it to work efficiently than they did just using it. They realized in order to minimize the lag, or poor battery life, they had to disable most if not all of the 'innovative features' for the phone to run as they wish. Why do you think that in the iphone 5 forum, there are maybe 5 or 7 threads that get new posts daily whereas in the GS4 there are nearly 5x as many? Because they are littered with people trying to figure out what the hell they just did to screw up their device, or how to fix something that isn't working as planned. But alas, hail 'choice'!

    There is truly no reason to take this any further. You are disappointed with IOS 7 and its patch job. You are disappointed in Apple and their lack of a 'one more thing'. Well, stand in line with everyone else then. Because from the Nexus 4, to the HTC One X, to the RAZR to the GS4.....there hasn't been a 'one more thing' for quite some time....
    Preach it brother!!


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    07-20-2013 09:11 PM
  24. swarlos's Avatar
    Also these people are all fluff and stuff. They always post stupid these stupid responses than are never heard from again. Obviously cause their arguments can't hold water once our voices of reason speak.


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    07-20-2013 10:22 PM
  25. John Flud's Avatar
    I'm upgrading. I can't wait. it looks like its gonna be a killer release! and now with apple purchasing hopstop, it'll have native transit support again. (assuming thats ready by september anyway)

    I can't wait!
    07-21-2013 02:20 AM
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