1. MikeC14's Avatar
    Widgets in the notification centre for Wifi, Bluetooth etc are one of the things I miss from my short foray on Android.
    10-26-2011 03:00 PM
  2. BLiNK's Avatar
    To me, they are two different ways of notifying me of something so I use them in two different ways. Basically, I put anything in the notification center that I feel like I can clear without checking the app (Tweetbot, Calendar, etc.) and turn off the badges for that. Stuff that I want to bother me, I use both (or just the badge) to remind me to go check the app. Works well for me anyway.
    very good point. i think some of us, myself included, will always want more no matter what Apple brings to the table. however, the current system will indeed work, that's for sure
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    10-26-2011 03:06 PM
  3. templetonryecy's Avatar
    I really don't think "status bar notifications are necessary". With the lock screen notifications ( so you can see what has come through since your phone locked ) and notification center, I think that notifications are adequately displayed. I've had status bar notifications before ( jailbreak ) and it really gets cluttered.
    (This is a copy and paste from a post of mine from a different thread, so this is not directly aimed at you )

    The lockscreen is not enough.

    "Why? Because if I have 3 different notifications on the lockscreen, (1 for mail, 1 for facebook, 1 for twitter) and I go into ONE of them, then lock my phone...then next time I see the lockscreen, there is nothing there. The facebook and twitter notifications no longer show on the lockscreen. They DO still show in the notification center, but not on the lockscreen. If I had the icons in the notification bar at the top, I could easily remember that I have 2 notifications left waiting for me. I think Apple missed the boat on that one. Not sure why the lockscreen 'resets' after you access one of the notifications. At least give us an option to not do that"

    If you have items on the lockscreen, and you access just ONE of those notifications, the next time you unlock your phone, NOTHING is on the lock screen. So the only way to even remember that you had a notification pending 10 minutes later is to actually unlock the phone again, which is what the old iOS gave us. It's like Apple said "you get one crack at having the lockscreen be useful for you. After that, we will blank it out."

    If icons were there (or a blinking LED, which is another discussion - NO idea how iPhones still don't have this - and no, the one-time flashing of the camera LED on the BACK of the phone when a notification comes in is not the same thing), I would only have to unlock my phone to remember that I have several notifications waiting. Unlocking the phone and hoping I'm on the right page of icons to see a badge is not ideal. There is nothing at the top of the screen, like Android, that tells me, "Hey, I should swipe down the notification panel." It's just lazy on Apple's part.

    Still love the phone for the most part though :-)
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    10-26-2011 05:40 PM
  4. jglev's Avatar
    (This is a copy and paste from a post of mine from a different thread, so this is not directly aimed at you )

    The lockscreen is not enough.

    "Why? Because if I have 3 different notifications on the lockscreen, (1 for mail, 1 for facebook, 1 for twitter) and I go into ONE of them, then lock my phone...then next time I see the lockscreen, there is nothing there. The facebook and twitter notifications no longer show on the lockscreen. They DO still show in the notification center, but not on the lockscreen. If I had the icons in the notification bar at the top, I could easily remember that I have 2 notifications left waiting for me. I think Apple missed the boat on that one. Not sure why the lockscreen 'resets' after you access one of the notifications. At least give us an option to not do that"

    If you have items on the lockscreen, and you access just ONE of those notifications, the next time you unlock your phone, NOTHING is on the lock screen. So the only way to even remember that you had a notification pending 10 minutes later is to actually unlock the phone again, which is what the old iOS gave us. It's like Apple said "you get one crack at having the lockscreen be useful for you. After that, we will blank it out."

    If icons were there (or a blinking LED, which is another discussion - NO idea how iPhones still don't have this - and no, the one-time flashing of the camera LED on the BACK of the phone when a notification comes in is not the same thing), I would only have to unlock my phone to remember that I have several notifications waiting. Unlocking the phone and hoping I'm on the right page of icons to see a badge is not ideal. There is nothing at the top of the screen, like Android, that tells me, "Hey, I should swipe down the notification panel." It's just lazy on Apple's part.

    Still love the phone for the most part though :-)
    I agree. There needs to be some sort of status bar reminder, but I don't think I need an icon for every notification on the status bar. One icon representing notifications (maybe a triangle with an exclaimation) in the status bar could appear so you know that there are still notifications in the NC. Have it so that the icon doesn't clear until you clear all the notifications, so it you have two notifications in the NC and you address one, the icon is still there until you address the second one. It's simple, intuitive and won't clutter up the status bar.
    10-26-2011 07:11 PM
  5. Superjudge's Avatar
    I agree. There needs to be some sort of status bar reminder, but I don't think I need an icon for every notification on the status bar. One icon representing notifications (maybe a triangle with an exclaimation) in the status bar could appear so you know that there are still notifications in the NC. Have it so that the icon doesn't clear until you clear all the notifications, so it you have two notifications in the NC and you address one, the icon is still there until you address the second one. It's simple, intuitive and won't clutter up the status bar.
    I still like having symbols that are actionable. I'd rather get to my email, SMS, or app without having to go to the nc first. I don't mind the clutter as long as it is functional and informative. That why I loved webOS notifications and it never had a feeling of clutter. It was simple and powerful.
    10-26-2011 07:35 PM
  6. Duvi's Avatar
    I like it the way it is now.

    I like it more than amy other platform. I currently still have all the major ones now.


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    10-26-2011 10:21 PM
  7. draztikrhymez's Avatar
    I think webOS still has the best notifications of any phone/tablet platform.
    I agree with this
    10-26-2011 11:08 PM
  8. big9erfan's Avatar
    (This is a copy and paste from a post of mine from a different thread, so this is not directly aimed at you )

    The lockscreen is not enough.

    "Why? Because if I have 3 different notifications on the lockscreen, (1 for mail, 1 for facebook, 1 for twitter) and I go into ONE of them, then lock my phone...then next time I see the lockscreen, there is nothing there. The facebook and twitter notifications no longer show on the lockscreen. They DO still show in the notification center, but not on the lockscreen. If I had the icons in the notification bar at the top, I could easily remember that I have 2 notifications left waiting for me. I think Apple missed the boat on that one. Not sure why the lockscreen 'resets' after you access one of the notifications. At least give us an option to not do that"

    If you have items on the lockscreen, and you access just ONE of those notifications, the next time you unlock your phone, NOTHING is on the lock screen. So the only way to even remember that you had a notification pending 10 minutes later is to actually unlock the phone again, which is what the old iOS gave us. It's like Apple said "you get one crack at having the lockscreen be useful for you. After that, we will blank it out."

    If icons were there (or a blinking LED, which is another discussion - NO idea how iPhones still don't have this - and no, the one-time flashing of the camera LED on the BACK of the phone when a notification comes in is not the same thing), I would only have to unlock my phone to remember that I have several notifications waiting. Unlocking the phone and hoping I'm on the right page of icons to see a badge is not ideal. There is nothing at the top of the screen, like Android, that tells me, "Hey, I should swipe down the notification panel." It's just lazy on Apple's part.

    Still love the phone for the most part though :-)
    I understand where you are coming from, don't get me wrong. I completely understand your arguments and can see why you feel the way you do. Prior to ios 5 I was a jailbreaker and used LockInfo and Notifier ( I think that's what it was called ), anyways, so I understand what you like about status bar icons and the lock screen information.

    That said, with ios 5 I've rejoined "team pure" (at least for the time being, I always spend a few months with any new os with as few tweaks as possible ) and adjusted my previous workflow to work with the iOS 5 enhancements.

    A major complaint of yours is that notifications of yours clear off the lockscreen (wow, my phone kept wanting to change that word to locks teen wtf? Lol ). When I first installed iOS 5 I was disappointed that I didn't see my upcoming calendar events ( even for today) on the screen. I, like you thought "Apple missed the boat". Then I kept using it...and using it and I came to find I liked it ( with exception of the calendar event ) more than LockInfo. You're thinking I'm crazy, and that's fine but I'll continue explaining for insanities sake anyways . I found that withthe lockscreen notifications I was now just seeing what had happened on my phone since the past time I locked it. No longer was I having to look at a list of 4 or 5 emails, 2 or 3 texts and whatever else, I saw maybe 1 text and an email or two. When I answered one of those from the lockscreen I could then pull down notification center and deal with any other unanswered notifications I decided to deal with, but the ones I "missed" while away had already been presented to me at the lockscreen.

    I definitely wish the lockscreen had a place to show upcoming calendar events, it would be nice to see th meetings that I have scheduled for today, so that's where we will agree, but I disagree on the "missing the boat" phrase.

    As per the "blinking led" I don't think we will see an iPhone with a notification light like you see on a blackberry and many other devices. It's not very "Apple" so to speak. What I do see happening is that once OLED in implemented into the iOS device line they will be able to light up a small portion of the display and can simulate the notification light of many existing devices and still have it be "Apple"esque by using as few parts as possible (sleek and smooth not just on the outside but the inside as well).
    10-27-2011 01:40 AM
  9. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    As per the "blinking led" I don't think we will see an iPhone with a notification light like you see on a blackberry and many other devices. It's not very "Apple" so to speak. What I do see happening is that once OLED in implemented into the iOS device line they will be able to light up a small portion of the display and can simulate the notification light of many existing devices and still have it be "Apple"esque by using as few parts as possible (sleek and smooth not just on the outside but the inside as well).
    The home button should glow, and that would be the notification light.
    10-27-2011 02:23 AM
  10. NoleScream's Avatar
    It's funny, the last thing I want is my phone blinking at me. I check it when I'm ready to check it, or if I'm waiting on something important. Otherwise it can wait. I don't want a little red light or lit up home button (although it wouldn't matter in my Defender case) whining at me.
    10-27-2011 10:49 AM
  11. Superjudge's Avatar
    It's funny, the last thing I want is my phone blinking at me. I check it when I'm ready to check it, or if I'm waiting on something important. Otherwise it can wait. I don't want a little red light or lit up home button (although it wouldn't matter in my Defender case) whining at me.
    Sometimes something important is not planned. If you were away from your phone and missed an important call/text, it's nice to be able to walk in the room and know immediately without picking up your phone that you missed that call/message. It could be an emergency from a loved one. I missed a call from my girlfriend who needed a jump because I didn't realize I missed anything. All I did was step outside for minute to talk to a neighbor. I didn't happen to check my phone till a half hour later.
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    10-27-2011 12:04 PM
  12. sd3sign's Avatar
    I'm loving the new notifications. Hands down the best new feature of iOS 5
    10-27-2011 02:31 PM
  13. NoleScream's Avatar
    Sometimes something important is not planned. If you were away from your phone and missed an important call/text, it's nice to be able to walk in the room and know immediately without picking up your phone that you missed that call/message. It could be an emergency from a loved one. I missed a call from my girlfriend who needed a jump because I didn't realize I missed anything. All I did was step outside for minute to talk to a neighbor. I didn't happen to check my phone till a half hour later.
    I guess it's just habit to check my phone when I get back. Either way, if they ever add something like that, an "off" setting can make everyone happy.
    10-27-2011 03:35 PM
  14. BLiNK's Avatar
    It's funny, the last thing I want is my phone blinking at me. I check it when I'm ready to check it, or if I'm waiting on something important. Otherwise it can wait.
    very well said, sir!
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    10-27-2011 05:42 PM
  15. Bizarre's Avatar
    I came from using multiple blackberry's for a little over a year, I have to say the notification light was very useful and one of the few features that made me stay with bb's as long as I did. I understand some users would like this and some wouldn't, that's why there is an option to turn it on or off. Not complaining, couldn't care less actually, but if they were to add this on the next gen iPhones, it is not something I would shy away from.
    10-27-2011 05:46 PM
  16. templetonryecy's Avatar
    Sometimes something important is not planned. If you were away from your phone and missed an important call/text, it's nice to be able to walk in the room and know immediately without picking up your phone that you missed that call/message. It could be an emergency from a loved one. I missed a call from my girlfriend who needed a jump because I didn't realize I missed anything. All I did was step outside for minute to talk to a neighbor. I didn't happen to check my phone till a half hour later.
    Exactly. Well said. It makes NO sense to not include a LED notification option. For those that think they "don't want something blinking at them," well, then turn off that feature like you can on Android or BB.
    10-28-2011 04:15 PM
  17. noaim's Avatar
    Exactly. Well said. It makes NO sense to not include a LED notification option. For those that think they "don't want something blinking at them," well, then turn off that feature like you can on Android or BB.
    I owned 3 blakcberrys and do miss the led.. im not sure why apple wont do one properly
    10-28-2011 04:38 PM
  18. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    I owned 3 blakcberrys and do miss the led.. im not sure why apple wont do one properly
    Hopefully in the next redesign.
    10-28-2011 07:28 PM
  19. big9erfan's Avatar
    I owned 3 blakcberrys and do miss the led.. im not sure why apple wont do one properly
    I think you use the right term; "properly". They won't do one, until they feel it is done right.
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    10-28-2011 08:17 PM
  20. ProfessorTripp's Avatar
    I think you use the right term; "properly". They won't do one, until they feel it is done right.
    How could an LED be done wrong? Seems pretty basic to me.
    10-28-2011 11:10 PM
  21. grunt0300's Avatar
    How could an LED be done wrong? Seems pretty basic to me.
    I'm not a fan of the LED, but my wife is. Not enough to go back to BB, but she does miss that blinking red light. There is plenty of room on the front of an iPhone to have an LED, so maybe with an iPhone5, they'll get it done. I think that if enough people start lobbying for one, it could happen.
    10-29-2011 12:03 AM
  22. shinbone's Avatar
    I agree, clearing the notification from the screen should also remove the red dot on the app. But overall I'm liking the new notification center.
    ^^ YUP ^^

    Kinda redundant, having to essentially clear notifications twice
    10-29-2011 09:56 AM
  23. DaveGreengo's Avatar
    I'm not a fan of the LED, but my wife is. Not enough to go back to BB, but she does miss that blinking red light. There is plenty of room on the front of an iPhone to have an LED, so maybe with an iPhone5, they'll get it done. I think that if enough people start lobbying for one, it could happen.
    I have a BB aswell as my iPhone 4 and 4s, and i cannot see why they haven't included a proper LED flash on the 4s, on my BB it flashes different colours for different things, ie red for call, green for BBM, blue for facebook, purple for email etc so without even pressing a button you know if you need to pick it up as soon as you look at your phone.

    ^^ YUP ^^

    Kinda redundant, having to essentially clear notifications twice
    +1 Definetly with you on this one
    10-30-2011 07:06 PM
  24. grunt0300's Avatar
    I have a BB aswell as my iPhone 4 and 4s, and i cannot see why they haven't included a proper LED flash on the 4s, on my BB it flashes different colours for different things, ie red for call, green for BBM, blue for facebook, purple for email etc so without even pressing a button you know if you need to pick it up as soon as you look at your phone.



    +1 Definetly with you on this one
    I agree. It shouldn't be a difficult thing to add to the next iPhone.
    10-30-2011 08:23 PM
  25. rewNATION's Avatar
    I like the notifications, especially in the lock screen
    10-30-2011 10:51 PM
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