surur
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Its not that the Treo is so great, but the IPhone is a really really poor smartphone, in fact there is even a debate if it qualifies as such, which tells us a lot already.
Surur
Surur
This is funny.
Your in a place called "Treocentral" where what, 98% of us actually own a Treo and you act surprised (claim victim?) when 63+ threads appear for a non-Treo device that is not out yet and a handful of people here are skeptical of it's supposed "amazingness".
that's actually subjective since it is your opinion.
plus, you did buy a Palm 750. so what does that say about you?
Wow, put that cart before the horse...Its not that the Treo is so great, but the IPhone is a really really poor smartphone, in fact there is even a debate if it qualifies as such, which tells us a lot already.
Surur
Wow, put that cart before the horse...
I believe the hardware is set. However, Steve can supplement the software we saw on the presentation model with widgets, apps or even make the code available to developers. We MAY want to wait till release before we call it a "really really poor smartphone".
Or even if its a really great smartphone
(OT) I'll bite. What does it say about me Mr. Freud?your anarchistic way does say something about you.
(OT) I'll bite. What does it say about me Mr. Freud?
lol, that works. Or I "don't have irrational company allegiances, but do believe in questioning orthodoxy?"That you are not a happy consumer who will always buy the latest shiny shiny, just because its new?
Surur
that's a very fair description of me, thank you.so very deep and well thought out, and with empirical evidence at that.
One BIG dislike.
1. No OTA syncing. What are they thinking?
The only thing I can imagine that may happen here is that once .Mac is updated and announced, they will allow for cellular based syncing to .Mac services. Still; If this is the case, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!
Now for my many likey-likes.
1. Mac friendly. (Eat it Palm)
2. Context sensitive keyboard that pops up when needed. This is extremely useful and really well done.
3. Bizarre and unheard of concepts like "touching your music" and "Visual Voicemail" actually make sense in using the iPhone.
4. The iPhone screen fa?ade can actually be quickly and simply wiped clean with its unique edgeless design. This is to say nothing of the specially selected screen material chosen for use with grimy, greasy fingers.
5. 5 hours of battery life for talk/video/bwrowsing; 16 hours for audio playback. Note that this is with wi-fi and bluetooth going at the same time. This is unbelievable performance.
6. Two-finger zooming gesture
7. Two-finger pinching gesture
8. One-finger scrolling gesture
9. One-finger swiping gesture
10. THE BEST mobile browsing experience. Period. . . . I... I mean period
11. Push-IMAP support, not that IDLE stuff or the fake pushing either.
12. Coolest implementation of Google Maps I have ever seen.
13. Easiest Conference call-management I have ever seen.
14. The keyboard - I know a little bit about what they are doing to make this unique keyboard a success. Every little space on that screen is tracking and measuring and relating to every other little space. There is a great deal of processing power required JUST for the simple act of typing. And reading how your finger hits the screen and what part of your finger hits first and the total amount of space that it hits ? all in an effort to account for inaccuracies. There is a lot of research that has been done here. They even take into account a person's inability to accurately predict what part of their finger actually hits the screen. You see, it seems that we fail to take into account the curve of our finger and how it actually hits the screen based on the overhead view we have in watching the screen as we type. To this end, they also enlarge the keys as our finger approaches the screen (not yet touching) so that our brain can have some verification. Then of course there is the software based auto-correcting type of feature that analyzes which keys you MIGHT have meant to hit and figures out the word you wanted.
15. With all this, this phone device still holds an incredible amount of "potential". By this, I mean to say it can bring yet even more to the table.
This is evidenced by even just looking at the initial screen shots (probably purposefully done for marketing reasons). You can see that there is so much more room for other widgets to be loaded. As if to say, "This phone will take us into the future." For example; it seems logical they will convert FileMaker Mobile, which I bought for the Palm OS about 5 years ago, so that it will run on the iPhone.
And then there is the obvious move to implement interfacing with the iPod. I mean they have to keep the sales of these going too, right? How else but to allow each device to cover for the others shortcomings. In the future we may be able to plug in high capacity (30, 40, 60, 80, even 100 GB) iPods to transfer content to and from an iPhone. I doing so, Apple will be enhancing the usefulness of each of these separate products and pushing sales when considering a "Halo" type of affect.
This was a good re-read!
Also; in thinking about my one big "Dislike", I can now understand why Apple chose to not enable wireless syncing. After having some time to absorb some of the facts, a person has to realize that to sync the stuff to the iPhone over a Bluetooth connection could take a lonnnnggg time. You could conceivably have 8 GB of stuff (contacts, calendar events, songs, movies, etc.) to send to it over a Bluetooth connection at like 500kbps.
That would take longer than the battery life would cover. This would be unreliable. This is probably the reason Apple chose not to enable over-the-air syncing.
Hopefully, Apple will eventually find it beneficial to possibly enable a subset of syncing services that they could enable for over-the-air syncing. Like maybe just contacts, calendar events and to-do lists.
They will probably do it but it will only be availble to .Mac users ($69 - $99 a year additional subscription fee). I don't know this for sure, just speculation.actually wouldn't that be the sensible thing from the start? I can't say for sure, but can't the Palm Desktop not do selective syncing? And I assume WM phones can (my nokia 6101 can with the nokia software) Correct me if I'm wrong as I've only had my phone fro a month...
This was a good re-read!
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