A895
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Makes no sense.
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Do you not align with the right?
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Makes no sense.
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Do you not align with the right?
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Utopianism also finds a receptive audience among societies disenchanted, disaffected, dissatisfied, and maladjusted who are unable to assume responsibility for their own real or perceived conditions but instead blame their surroundings, the system and others.
Kind of like you blaming Bush when the blame rest with Obama.
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Would you say Reagan fixed the economy or improved the economy? And Obama objectively speaking has done more ... Where is the praise for Obama as it was for Reagan?
Clinton was far more tech savvy than Bush, and more specifically his administration and Al Gore, the running joke about him inventing the Internet was wrong but Al Gore was instrumental to its development, see the letter by Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf, Some of the fathers of Internet specifically development of TCP/IP, tech savvy doesn't mean personal use it means understanding and usage of technology as it applies to political initiative.
http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~fessler/misc/funny/gore,net.txt
Listen lots of people drive cars, very few people drive like Jimmie Johnson. Saying that all presidents engage the youth is like saying many people drive. Obama is exceptional at youth engagement especially objectively speaking, youth donations, party sign up, volunteers, so was Reagan (young republicans movement) for that matter, maybe it was his Hollywood roots, but could you compare gW bush SR. Youth engagement to Obamas? Absolutely, not.
Like I said when Obamas presidency is over people will be tripping over themselves saying how great he was, and forget conversation like this. Objectively speaking Obama is exceptional and has done an exceptional job period, the credit will come. Even by you mark my words. The wave of nostalgia, the need to fear will be removed because he'll be out of office, and this will be the key difference. Like I said Ali is loved today, a great champion, a great American, with his own Museum everyone forgets today he was hated at one point.
I never expressed my taste/distaste for Obama, so it's funny that you'd assume such with the comment "Even by you."
Personally, I think all presidents are pawns...I have no real attachment to any of them because in my opinion, they are all just facades. As a person, President Obama seems like a great guy...respectful, engaging and particularly well spoken at times...but honestly, none of my responses were in light of what I think of Obama, but more response to the comments A895 made which I found humorous...with the exception of the youth engagement...I'll simply bow away from that comment as me being inaccurate because I don't have the where with all to look up facts to support my opinion in that regard.
My retort about tech savviness was also in response to A895, who does not share your idea of what it means, and was reflecting it as a personal thing (proven by his response about giving the queen an iPod). Clinton actually WASN'T tech savvy at all, self admitted by him when asked about using blackberry's back during the Bush administration...he said he was "old school", and regarded his love for his saxophone as something that keeps him limited to the electronic world. Doesn't mean his administration wasn't on the forefront of tech...as you said, Gore was instrumental in the creation of the modern internet...but again, this was not the context of the discussion had between me and A895 before you chimed in.
Reagan left us with a debt we can never repay.
Well actually Clinton repaid it. Then G W racked the total to new heights.
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I don't think a president is a pawn, but I do think anyone you can exchange every 4 years from power can not be that important because things move over decades when it comes to countries not a few years.
Clinton did not repay it. He balanced the deficit, meaning we were not adding to the debt. The uS hasn't had 0 debt since the early 1900s, I believe, but I have to look it up though.
I share Sean's view about a president being a pawn. It is usually whoever the party grooms that person to be so they can run and get elected. I say this because I've never been one to defend a president but someone brought up Hurricane Katrina and "tech savvy." Dude, really? Give us some examples of how tech savvy Obama is. The catch is you need to give me those examples in regards to things that previous presidents before him had access to and the same advantages.
And what about Hurricane Katrina exactly? And the shoe throwing incident? What about it? What if Obama gets a shoe thrown at him? What will you say then?
He wasn't president at the time, but he absolutely destroyed McCain when it came to social media. There wasn't an iPhone when he announced his candidacy in 2007... and there is no doubt in my mind he could have use one if it was put in his hand then or now.
I'll give you that. I remember the whole "Obama loves his blackberry" thing.
But in what sense has it served the public and not a campaign? I'm just saying that I think it's a silly thing to argue for his benefit when comparing him to past presidents.
I'm just saying that I think it's a silly thing to argue for his benefit when comparing him to past presidents.
Green energy technology, it's the next boom he recognizes this.
I'll give you that. I remember the whole "Obama loves his blackberry" thing.
But in what sense has it served the public and not a campaign? I'm just saying that I think it's a silly thing to argue for his benefit when comparing him to past presidents.
In 2002, Hydrogen cell technology was the "next boom", and Bush recognized it.
I will give Obama some major kudos though...his backing of Tesla, both as an idea and financially through federal loans (which were repaid faster than any manufacturer that benefited from such) was rather commendable, and I believe what Tesla is bringing to the table in the next few years will really change the face of electric cars.
Being tech savvy has helped him be more in touch and more personal to the people he serves. He did a Reddit AMA, he's on Twitter, etc. He has a smartphone, albeit an older BlackBerry but he at least has a phone. He makes it his mission to focus on tech.
Have you not heard of his initiative for net neutrality? If it goes through, no more data throttling, no more data caps, more ubiquitous high speed internet like Google Fiber. That is what makes him tech savvy, he isn't ignoring the technology aspect and its implications on laws.
While G Bush wasn't elected when smartphone were ubiquitous, the iPhone was around in his second term, and other OSs were around too (WebOS and Windows Mobile, and Symbian for example).
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Being tech savvy has helped him be more in touch and more personal to the people he serves. He did a Reddit AMA, he's on Twitter, etc. He has a smartphone, albeit an older BlackBerry but he at least has a phone. He makes it his mission to focus on tech.
Have you not heard of his initiative for net neutrality? If it goes through, no more data throttling, no more data caps, more ubiquitous high speed internet like Google Fiber. That is what makes him tech savvy, he isn't ignoring the technology aspect and its implications on laws.
While G Bush wasn't elected when smartphone were ubiquitous, the iPhone was around in his second term, and other OSs were around too (WebOS and Windows Mobile, and Symbian for example).
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Being tech savvy has helped him be more in touch and more personal to the people he serves. He did a Reddit AMA, he's on Twitter, etc. He has a smartphone, albeit an older BlackBerry but he at least has a phone. He makes it his mission to focus on tech.
Have you not heard of his initiative for net neutrality? If it goes through, no more data throttling, no more data caps, more ubiquitous high speed internet like Google Fiber. That is what makes him tech savvy, he isn't ignoring the technology aspect and its implications on laws.
While G Bush wasn't elected when smartphone were ubiquitous, the iPhone was around in his second term, and other OSs were around too (WebOS and Windows Mobile, and Symbian for example).
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Exactly. It's like naming electric cars as a benefit of Obama because we've seen the most technological advancements in said field since he's taken office. If we are to make comparisons between previous presidents and Obama, Bush actually passed legislation for BETTER fuel efficiencies than Obama did...the differences were really quite negligible all things considered, but let's be real, just because the technology pops up during a presidents term doesn't mean he was the man responsible for it or the ease of use created by it's existence.