1. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Where is the evidence that the billionaires have doubled since 2009?
    11-12-2014 03:36 PM
  2. Les74's Avatar
    Which redistribution are you talking about???

    Oh wait.... it's the conservative buzz word to coverup the REAL redistribution that's been going on for years.

    The number of billionaires in the US since Obama took office in 2009 has DOUBLED.

    How do you explain that?


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    11-12-2014 03:38 PM
  3. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    "But why would Buffett and Soros support a bill that tacks an additional 3.8% tax on dividends, interest, rent, capital gains, annuities, and home sales for anyone making over $200,000 ($250,000 for joint filers)?

    These two famed investors aren't just supporting the bill. They've been making specific investments based on what's written in the new law."

    The latest 13F filings show that last quarter Soros' fund, Soros Group Management, bought 125,000 shares of Gilead Sciences, a research-based biopharmaceutical company that discovers, develops and markets medicines.

    The fund also purchased 250,000 shares of pharmaceutical giant Merck, 100,000 shares of Bristol-Myers Squibb, and two of his top 10 holdings now include Johnson & Johnson and WebMD.

    Filings for Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway show that in the year since Obamacare was upheld by the Supreme Court, the fund bought 5.67 million shares of DaVita HealthCare Partners, a leading provider of kidney dialysis services.

    Buffett and Soros aren't the only billionaires making big bets because of Obamacare.

    In the 12 months after Obamacare passed Carl Icahn has snatched up 4.3 million shares of drug manufacturer Forest Labs, which is Icahn's fourth largest holding. Icahn also holds 5.9 million shares of Enzon Pharmaceuticals and 6.7 million shares of WebMD.

    Billionaire Ken Fisher of Fisher Asset Management bought over 9.8 million shares of Pfizer, the quarter immediately following the passage of Obamacare.

    Billionaire David Einhorn who heads Greenlight Capital bought 6.7 million shares of health insurer Aetna and 4.9 million shares of its competitor Cigna in the past year.

    John Paulson of Paulson & Co. has caught on as well this past year, buying 6.5 million shares of Aetna, and 963,000 shares of Jazz Pharmaceuticals, a specialty biopharmaceutical company.

    Finally, in the past 12 months billionaire Leon Cooperman of Omega Advisors has bought 945,827 shares of Express Scripts, the largest distributor of prescription drugs.

    Remember, 13f filings aren't released until months after trades have already been made, allowing big investors to act quietly."



    In short... billionaires will make BILLIONS off of Obamacare.


    How's that for redistribution???????
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    11-12-2014 04:02 PM
  4. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Obamacare is a cash cow.. the “cost” of Obamacare, $2 trillion. If the government weren’t spending $2 trillion on insurance coverage, that’s money that could be going to reducing the deficit, spending more on infrastructure..
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    11-12-2014 05:17 PM
  5. ItnStln's Avatar
    Obamacare is a cash cow.. the cost of Obamacare, $2 trillion. If the government werent spending $2 trillion on insurance coverage, thats money that could be going to reducing the deficit, spending more on infrastructure..
    Or vacations!
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    11-12-2014 11:11 PM
  6. Gator352's Avatar
    "But why would Buffett and Soros support a bill that tacks an additional 3.8% tax on dividends, interest, rent, capital gains, annuities, and home sales for anyone making over $200,000 ($250,000 for joint filers)?

    These two famed investors aren't just supporting the bill. They've been making specific investments based on what's written in the new law."

    The latest 13F filings show that last quarter Soros' fund, Soros Group Management, bought 125,000 shares of Gilead Sciences, a research-based biopharmaceutical company that discovers, develops and markets medicines.

    The fund also purchased 250,000 shares of pharmaceutical giant Merck, 100,000 shares of Bristol-Myers Squibb, and two of his top 10 holdings now include Johnson & Johnson and WebMD.

    Filings for Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway show that in the year since Obamacare was upheld by the Supreme Court, the fund bought 5.67 million shares of DaVita HealthCare Partners, a leading provider of kidney dialysis services.

    Buffett and Soros aren't the only billionaires making big bets because of Obamacare.

    In the 12 months after Obamacare passed Carl Icahn has snatched up 4.3 million shares of drug manufacturer Forest Labs, which is Icahn's fourth largest holding. Icahn also holds 5.9 million shares of Enzon Pharmaceuticals and 6.7 million shares of WebMD.

    Billionaire Ken Fisher of Fisher Asset Management bought over 9.8 million shares of Pfizer, the quarter immediately following the passage of Obamacare.

    Billionaire David Einhorn who heads Greenlight Capital bought 6.7 million shares of health insurer Aetna and 4.9 million shares of its competitor Cigna in the past year.

    John Paulson of Paulson & Co. has caught on as well this past year, buying 6.5 million shares of Aetna, and 963,000 shares of Jazz Pharmaceuticals, a specialty biopharmaceutical company.

    Finally, in the past 12 months billionaire Leon Cooperman of Omega Advisors has bought 945,827 shares of Express Scripts, the largest distributor of prescription drugs.

    Remember, 13f filings aren't released until months after trades have already been made, allowing big investors to act quietly."



    In short... billionaires will make BILLIONS off of Obamacare.


    How's that for redistribution???????
    This has nothing to do with conservatives as "most" of these "billionaires" contributed to Obama's campaign.

    Redistribution of wealth?? Let's see here:

    Considering OC was built on the premise that the healthy would be paying in to help pay for the "less healthy". So buy taking more money, in the form of taxes known as OC, from the healthy is, in fact, redistribution. Take from the more fortunate and give to the less fortunate.

    Obama preyed on the "stupidity" of the voter to get OC passed. What's funny is that no Republican voted for it nor wanted it....so Obama was preying on the stupidity of the "democrat" voter. Our Democrat president just called the democrat voter that voted him to office "STUPID"!!! He is so right.....
    11-13-2014 06:01 AM
  7. Gator352's Avatar
    Or vacations!
    Or more XXX videos for the EPA.....
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    11-13-2014 06:02 AM
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    11-13-2014 07:41 AM
  9. Les74's Avatar
    "I don't even know what's in the bill"


    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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    11-13-2014 07:46 AM
  10. hydrogen3's Avatar
    "I don't even know what's in the bill"


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    Which tea party?

    1. a social gathering in the afternoon at which tea, cakes, and other light refreshments are served.

    2. The Tea Party movement is an American political movement known for its conservative positions and its role in the Republican Party ("GOP"). It demands a reduction in the U.S. national debt and federal budget deficit by reducing government spending and taxes.

    Chuckles....I happen to like both...Chuckles
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    11-13-2014 08:19 AM
  11. hydrogen3's Avatar
    "I don't even know what's in the bill"



    Neither did Nancy Pelosi of California's 12th district.
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    11-13-2014 08:20 AM
  12. ItnStln's Avatar
    Neither did Nancy Pelosi of California's 12th district.
    Yet she wanted it pushed through, despite not knowing what was in the bill.
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    11-13-2014 08:23 AM
  13. Gator352's Avatar
    Neither did Nancy Pelosi of California's 12th district.
    Neither did Reid or any democrat thereof. They just played on the stupidity of the voters to get it passed.
    11-13-2014 04:21 PM
  14. Gator352's Avatar
    Which tea party?

    1. a social gathering in the afternoon at which tea, cakes, and other light refreshments are served.

    2. The Tea Party movement is an American political movement known for its conservative positions and its role in the Republican Party ("GOP"). It demands a reduction in the U.S. national debt and federal budget deficit by reducing government spending and taxes.

    Chuckles....I happen to like both...Chuckles
    They also want a smaller government and for government to get out of the peoples way.....
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    11-13-2014 04:22 PM
  15. hydrogen3's Avatar
    They also want a smaller government and for government to get out of the peoples way.....
    Exactly...

    The Founders believed, and the Conservative agrees, in the dignity of the individual; that we, as human beings, have a right to live, live freely, and pursue that which motivates us not because man or some government says so, but because these are God-given natural rights.
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    11-13-2014 05:27 PM
  16. acadia11's Avatar
    Uhm the founders didn't believe the government was a separate creation from we the people. Stop rewriting history, somehow it's been lost on conservatives that you , the people, are the government. It's supposed to be a representation of the will of the people , representative government. Unless I missed what the Boston tea party was all about.


    Also, the debate has never been more or less government. The debate has always been centralized vs localized governments. Finally, the conservative movement as a party started In the mid 1800's and it certainly has little relation to the GOP of today.


    And to the comment on architecting the AcA, Obamacare. Aka AcA, was a republican idea from the 90s, created out of the conservative lobby of the heritage foundation and championed by Bob Dole, as a foil to clintoncare, ironically when endorsed by Obama it became an issue. Because the last 6 years have had little to do with policy opposition but opposing Obama as apolitical strategy because if he is successful and he has been it makes far more difficult for the GOP to regain power after the 2008 sweeping referendum against the GOP. So let's cut the B S.
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    11-13-2014 05:54 PM
  17. Les74's Avatar
    Uhm the founders didn't believe the government was a separate creation from we the people. Stop rewriting history, somehow it's been lost on conservatives that you , the people, are the government. It's supposed to be a representation of the will of the people , representative government. Unless I missed what the Boston tea party was all about.


    Also, the debate has never been more or less government. The debate has always been centralized vs localized governments. Finally, the conservative movement as a party started In the mid 1800's and it certainly has little relation to the GOP of today.


    And to the comment on architecting the AcA, Obamacare. Aka AcA, was a republican idea from the 90s, created out of the conservative lobby of the heritage foundation and championed by Bob Dole, as a foil to clintoncare, ironically when endorsed by Obama it became an issue. Because the last 6 years have had little to do with policy opposition but opposing Obama as apolitical strategy because if he is successful and he has been it makes far more difficult for the GOP to regain power after the 2008 sweeping referendum against the GOP. So let's cut the B S.
    Well, there ya go trying to add common sense to the equation. Watch where this goes....
    11-13-2014 06:18 PM
  18. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Uhm the founders didn't believe the government was a separate creation from we the people. Stop rewriting history, somehow it's been lost on conservatives that you , the people, are the government. It's supposed to be a representation of the will of the people , representative government. Unless I missed what the Boston tea party was all about.


    Also, the debate has never been more or less government. The debate has always been centralized vs localized governments. Finally, the conservative movement as a party started In the mid 1800's and it certainly has little relation to the GOP of today.


    And to the comment on architecting the AcA, Obamacare. Aka AcA, was a republican idea from the 90s, created out of the conservative lobby of the heritage foundation and championed by Bob Dole, as a foil to clintoncare, ironically when endorsed by Obama it became an issue. Because the last 6 years have had little to do with policy opposition but opposing Obama as apolitical strategy because if he is successful and he has been it makes far more difficult for the GOP to regain power after the 2008 sweeping referendum against the GOP. So let's cut the B S.
    Chuckles........ Looks like someone failed there Civic class.

    1. Its individual liberty.

    2. Centralized Government. Is Communism.

    3. Obamacare is a redistribution of wealth. Government democrat or republican has no Constitutional authority to mandate that you purchase any thing let alone health care.
    11-13-2014 07:05 PM
  19. acadia11's Avatar
    Chuckles........ Looks like someone failed there Civic class.

    1. Its individual liberty.

    2. Centralized Government. Is Communism.

    3. Obamacare is a redistribution of wealth. Government democrat or republican ha no Constitutional authority to mandate that you purchase any thing let alone health care.
    Wow ignorance is not bliss it's ignorance.

    1) who is questioning individual liberty, again the whole point of representative government is so the will of individual voices are taken into consideration, what I find ironic is these rights are in fact only enforceable because they are written into government law. So what's your point?

    2) centralized government is not communism. Communism is a political , planned economic and social system but i think you are not at all knowledgeable in this matter or fit to speak on it, If you think what makes a country communist is whether it has a centralized government or not. Again, the debate in the US has never been about whether one had liberty or not , or the size of government, it's centralized vs localized (states) government , who makes the rules of governance. Because the nation is not monolithic and where one law might make sense it might make sense somewhere else, for example living in the wilderness of Alaska gun ownership is likely a must, where is living in the big city of New York , gun ownership probably makes more sense to be curbed. Local vs central and creating the balance between the two that's the debate not whether we should have laws or not, which is what some conservatives are obtusficating...PS communism didn't even exist as a political movement when the nation was founded so I'm thoroughly confused as how it even plays into the discussion to further emphasize how asinine your statement.

    3) OBamacare again was a republican idea, being the argument that people should be responsible for their healthcare and not expect the state to pick up the tab, the mandate is GOP idea , again the debate changed when Obama endorsed this idea. Remember even as recent as the 2008 political debates Obama said he didn't endorse a mandate, the GOP did. This just to further emphasize that the GOP political strategy has absolutely nothing to do with policy but opposition. Why are we even arguing about this, this is something that the GOP has openly stated. From the day Obama was elected, I'll prove it to you, when you watch no bills come up to repeal Obamacare now the GOP owns congress, much like most seniors vote GOP but you never hear them say I don't want this government Medicare.

    One sociologist put it best the US is conservative in principle but liberal in practice, we want to complain about government but then want all the things government provides.
    11-13-2014 07:26 PM
  20. ItnStln's Avatar
    Wow ignorance is not bliss it's ignorance.
    What is it with you libs and bashing?
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    11-13-2014 07:30 PM
  21. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Wow ignorance is not bliss it's ignorance.

    1) who is questioning individual liberty, again the whole point of representative government is so the will of individual voices are taken into consideration, what I find ironic is these rights are in fact only enforceable because they are written into government law. So what's your point?

    2) centralized government is not communism. Communism is a political , planned economic and social system but i think you are not at all knowledgeable in this matter or fit to speak on it, If you think what makes a country communist is whether it has a centralized government or not. Again, the debate in the US has never been about whether one had liberty or not , or the size of government, it's centralized vs localized (states) government , who makes the rules of governance. Because the nation is not monolithic and where one law might make sense it might make sense somewhere else, for example living in the wilderness of Alaska gun ownership is likely a must, where is living in the big city of New York , gun ownership probably makes more sense to be curbed. Local vs central and creating the balance between the two that's the debate not whether we should have laws or not, which is what some conservatives are obtusficating...PS communism didn't even exist as a political movement when the nation was founded so I'm thoroughly confused as how it even plays into the discussion to further emphasize how asinine your statement.

    3) OBamacare again was a republican idea, being the argument that people should be responsible for their healthcare and not expect the state to pick up the tab, the mandate is GOP idea , again the debate changed when Obama endorsed this idea. Remember even as recent as the 2008 political debates Obama said he didn't endorse a mandate, the GOP did. This just to further emphasize that the GOP political strategy has absolutely nothing to do with policy but opposition. Why are we even arguing about this, this is something that the GOP has openly stated. From the day Obama was elected, I'll prove it to you, when you watch no bills come up to repeal Obamacare now the GOP owns congress, much like most seniors vote GOP but you never hear them say I don't want this government Medicare.

    One sociologist put it best the US is conservative in principle but liberal in practice, we want to complain about government but then want all the things government provides.
    What's not outlined in The Constitution is left to the States. Taking the right away for a state to govern it self and giving that authority to a centralized government is the very definition of communism.

    Every American has the right to dear arms....
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    11-13-2014 07:38 PM
  22. hydrogen3's Avatar
    What is it with you libs and bashing?
    Bashing is the only thing they have. They have no facts only Libertarian pixie dust.
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    11-13-2014 07:41 PM
  23. ItnStln's Avatar
    Bashing is the only thing they have. They have no facts only Libertarian pixie dust.
    That is true!
    11-13-2014 07:48 PM
  24. hydrogen3's Avatar
    11-13-2014 08:03 PM
  25. Les74's Avatar
    Chuckles........ Looks like someone failed there Civic class.
    Chuckles...... Looks like someone failed THEIR English class as well.
    11-13-2014 08:19 PM
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