1. Listy's Avatar
    This is my 50th individual iPhone jailbreak. All with no problems. Using blackra1n again, I click make it ra1n, with is a few seconds the you are done dialog come up. I see Geos face on the iPhone (no progress spinning dial), then to restore mode, then the 2nd you are done dialog comes up, GOEs face again (this time WITH progress spinning dial), reboot, done.

    Everytime I boot my iPhone now I have to rerun the jailbreak to get past the recovery screen or I have to restore my phone If I want it to stop booting to recovery mode. All I want is it to be jailbroken/UNLOCKED without having to rejailbreak everytime I boot it up


    Anybody have any idea why it is running twice or who to get passed this.
    12-04-2009 05:24 PM
  2. big9erfan's Avatar
    You have a 3GS with the new bootrom. It's only a tethered jailbreak at this point in time. You're not going to get around it right now.
    12-04-2009 06:51 PM
  3. Listy's Avatar
    So I can't unlock it?
    12-04-2009 07:35 PM
  4. big9erfan's Avatar
    I never said that.

    Step 1: jailbreak with blackra1n
    ( Jailbreaking a NEW 3GS requires it to be a TETHERED jailbreak, meaning that ANYTIME the phone restarts you need to connect the iPhone to your computer and RE-run Blackra1n from your computer )

    Step 2: run blacksn0w

    You only need to run blacksn0w the first time after you jailbreak. It will stay unlocked, but anytime the phone restarts you need to re-run blackra1n.
    12-04-2009 07:54 PM
  5. Listy's Avatar
    Thank you for clearing that up for me. I thought it was a fault. You rock)
    12-04-2009 08:03 PM
  6. big9erfan's Avatar
    *bows* glad I could help. Apple fixed the exploit hackers were using to be able to re-jailbreak the iPhone when you'd restart it. That's why they new ones need to be connected to the computer to re-jailbreak for the time being.
    12-04-2009 08:14 PM
  7. Listy's Avatar
    One if the new iPhones was bought by a girl that doesn't own a computer. The phone is lockEd to a different carrier than her mobile provider. The unlock does notreain though a system restore. So, the fact that she doesn't own a Pc and the battery life is sure to take it out of service and require a reboot. Is there anyway to unlock it without running blacksn0w? Could she take it to the phone carrier and get them to ulock it only for about $100 as advertised on the window? I pretty sure they don't Jb it as to avoid warranty issues. Every time you install a certain Cydia app, or say, reset the internet settings, have a glitch, go inside a hospital, get on a plane, run out of juice(did I say that already?) Or do anything that requires a reboot,make sure your near a computer. Not any computer one with an appropriate Jb program on it. Sounds more trouble than it worth.
    12-05-2009 05:09 AM
  8. big9erfan's Avatar
    There's no "fix" for this yet, it's something people have to deal with if they want to unlock or jailbreak the new 3GS iPhones.

    She could talk to her carrier and see if they will unlock it, but if they don't sell it chances are they can't/won't be able to unlock it, but it will never hurt to ask.

    There is no way to avoid using blacksn0w and keeping the unlock.
    12-06-2009 03:01 AM
  9. Listy's Avatar
    Thanks once again. She took it to her mobile provider and paid the $60 dollars to unlock the phone. Love to know what they used to unlock it. The lock code must be done at apple for international carriers. After removing the lock then doing a system restore it replaces the lock again. Does an unlock done in a phone shop going to survive a system restore without being locked again? Does blackrain/blacksnow make the unlock permanent? Is there a difference between them. I read somewhere something about it. Back to the information super highway. I was about to upgrade to the 3Gs but with that issue I going to wait until someone fixes that. Any news on progress or have they finally release something that can't be overwritten. I don't think I could handle having to run blacksnow everytime I switched the phone off. Just means travelling with my laptop everywhere which defeats the reasons to have an iPhone.
    Last edited by Listy; 12-08-2009 at 12:34 AM.
    12-08-2009 12:18 AM
  10. Listy's Avatar
    According to the mobile phone shop the unlock will not survive a system restore. So there is to make the unlock permanent. Something I read somewhere said blacksnow not ultrasnow.
    12-08-2009 09:23 AM
  11. big9erfan's Avatar
    Blacksn0w/Ultrasn0w are all software unlocks, not hardware ones, they are removed after a restore.
    12-08-2009 10:55 AM
  12. Listy's Avatar
    The lock is in the base band. Apples factory preset it? The lock is replaced or returned to it's original configuration with a system restore so it's a permanent thing at present on the 3Gs only, as I didn't have to unlock my 3G again after a system restore. Thanks.

    This is a great web site. I've been so informed by people in the know
    Last edited by Listy; 12-08-2009 at 04:10 PM.
    12-08-2009 03:57 PM
  13. irthy's Avatar
    Does anyone know a possible time frame for when the jailbreak for the 3GS 3.1.2 will be more then a TETHERED jailbreak. Or is it even going to happen. Considering the battery life of iphones it kind of worries me if i go out of town or camping or on a long plan ride etc. I do not have a laptop though that would be a good way to avoid long travels and having your phone be useless. Which brings up another question. Can i install blackra1n on any computer (pc) that wasn't used to jailbreak my phone orginally and have it boot up with no issues. Meaning i could just carry blackra1n on a usb stick and just pop it in any computer and quickly run blackra1n to get me back into my phone with out altering my original jailbroken phone. Thanks!
    12-09-2009 03:14 AM
  14. big9erfan's Avatar
    Does anyone know a possible time frame for when the jailbreak for the 3GS 3.1.2 will be more then a TETHERED jailbreak. Or is it even going to happen. Considering the battery life of iphones it kind of worries me if i go out of town or camping or on a long plan ride etc. I do not have a laptop though that would be a good way to avoid long travels and having your phone be useless. Which brings up another question. Can i install blackra1n on any computer (pc) that wasn't used to jailbreak my phone orginally and have it boot up with no issues. Meaning i could just carry blackra1n on a usb stick and just pop it in any computer and quickly run blackra1n to get me back into my phone with out altering my original jailbroken phone. Thanks!
    There is no time frame. GeoHot is NOT actively working on making it not tethered, I am sure that other jailbreak teams are but nobody knows when or IF.
    12-09-2009 11:33 AM
  15. Glavata's Avatar
    Hi, I have a v3.1.2 3GS on 05.11.07 band, is it possible to downgrade from here so that I can get the non tethering method going?

    Thanks!
    12-10-2009 12:05 AM
  16. big9erfan's Avatar
    It's not the firmware version or the modem version that causes the need for a thethered jailbreak. It's due to the bootrom that is not something that I an aware of that can be modified at this time.
    12-10-2009 01:59 AM
  17. jhamilton3's Avatar
    I just got my 3GS replaced and was unaware of this new problem.

    Used blackrain, thought everything was fine and dandy until I tried installing a few programs for winterboard that told me I needed to reboot to to have a successful install, etc... rebooted and ran into the problem.

    Needless to say it looks like no jailbreak for me until someone finds a way around this.
    12-10-2009 02:42 PM
  18. Greenchunks's Avatar
    I don't understand how this is such a big issue for people. When you're out and about turn off 3G/Wifi/Location (easy and quick with SBSettings), then if you wanna browse the internet or use something that requires data support turn it on, then turn it back off once you're done. My phone uses maybe 10% when just sitting on edge while I'm at work for 10-12 hours.
    12-10-2009 07:23 PM
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