1. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    Ignoring Sean, I've noticed a fundamental change in Apple. And who wouldn't this is just the beginning of Cook's 'Apple'. It could be said that the iPhones that have been coming out are not perfect. But they're not perfect because they're infant technologies.
    Yeah but I don't fully buy that either. Antenna-gate was under jobs watch. And before that the iPhone 3G and 3GS case cracking and no copy and paste or landscape mode or video camera or flash. iPhones have been far from perfect since the beginning. It's always about the total package vs the competition.
    09-26-2012 08:28 PM
  2. Fausty82's Avatar
    Stop it. No more talking about Apple Maps. We're not going to get anywhere, even if it's complete crap. Even if it looks like it came out of the 90's. Even if you get stranded because of it. People are still going to think it's the best because they, like, Apple.

    I don't have time for this. I rejected iOS 6 and I'm dammd proud of it.
    How did motoleo get back in here? Did someone leave the door open again?
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    09-26-2012 08:31 PM
  3. metrion's Avatar
    Yeah but I don't fully buy that either. Antenna-gate was under jobs watch. And before that the iPhone 3G and 3GS case cracking and no copy and paste or landscape mode or video camera or flash. iPhones have been far from perfect since the beginning. It's always about the total package vs the competition.
    True true. That was to be my next comment. Apple's devices may not please perfection. But they have wiggle room because they're already decades ahead of the competition.
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    09-26-2012 08:32 PM
  4. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I'm not looking for a response. I'm just here to make sure that people know that this rollout was not well recieved by me. In fact, it's worse than I had originally anticipated. I've been one to take it back.
    You think somebody actually cares that the phone was not well received? You actually think people read your crap on here as anything less than the useless troll drivel that it is?

    That is so pitiful.
    09-26-2012 08:51 PM
  5. metrion's Avatar
    It's not to say that I don't like the next one. In a way, I'm kind of like Apple, I know when to let things go. I don't know what the point of dropping Google Maps serves. I'm quite perplexed by that move. Maybe we'll find out later.

    Messy Maps. It's like going to France and instead if getting a perfectly good Map you get a kind of remembered but mostly forgot Map written down on a dirty old napkin.

    It's just funny.
    09-26-2012 09:03 PM
  6. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    It's not to say that I don't like the next one. In a way, I'm kind of like Apple, I know when to let things go. I don't know what the point of dropping Google Maps serves. I'm quite perplexed by that move. Maybe we'll find out later.

    Messy Maps. It's like going to France and instead if getting a perfectly good Map you get a kind of remembered but mostly forgot Map written down on a dirty old napkin.

    It's just funny.
    I read one of the possible reasons was googles lack of improvements of the apps. Such as turn by turn. At the end of the day it's all attributed to apple ridding its native OS of google's location services. Apple probably realized that it needs to be more independent and not rely on your top rival to improve your OS. Google needs iOS more than iOS needs google because google depends on knowing what users do around the world. And not being on iOS is taking away millions of users that google cannot track anymore. Not saying I agree with the move but I'm sure this was a strategic decision that took a lot of thought. A lot more than we would ever know. The YouTube app google put in the App Store is already better than the native iOS one. Why is that? Why couldn't google make the native one as good? This is exactly why apple is separating themselves. And you'll see the same thing with Samsung as they try to get back into software and offer their own stuff.
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    09-26-2012 09:18 PM
  7. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    It's not to say that I don't like the next one. In a way, I'm kind of like Apple, I know when to let things go. I don't know what the point of dropping Google Maps serves. I'm quite perplexed by that move. Maybe we'll find out later.

    Messy Maps. It's like going to France and instead if getting a perfectly good Map you get a kind of remembered but mostly forgot Map written down on a dirty old napkin.

    It's just funny.
    Apple Dropped Google Maps Because of One Key Feature: Report - US Business News - CNBC

    ...so instead of whining and b*tching about it, and trying to half assed copy them (like Scamsung does), they developed their own...does it have some faults? Sure! It's a brand freakin' new map system. But like everything else Apple has developed, it will find its balance, and it will achieve success. Sucks for Google, they could have remained relevant to the Apple crowd, and now they're just going to become history.
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    09-26-2012 09:18 PM
  8. Fausty82's Avatar
    Apple Dropped Google Maps Because of One Key Feature: Report - US Business News - CNBC

    ...so instead of whining and b*tching about it, and trying to half assed copy them (like Scamsung does), they developed their own...does it have some faults? Sure! It's a brand freakin' new map system. But like everything else Apple has developed, it will find its balance, and it will achieve success. Sucks for Google, they could have remained relevant to the Apple crowd, and now they're just going to become history.
    And why is it that no one remembers what a piece of crap Google Maps was when it launched years ago on the BlackBerry platform? Even 6 years ago when it launched on the original iPhone it was pure crap. Give Apple a few years and they'll be kicking Google's @$$ with Apple maps... write it down. In ink.
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    09-26-2012 09:27 PM
  9. metrion's Avatar
    It's a flawed philosophy. Forget Google?

    Google the company has imperial influence. In fact, if it wasn't for Google, none of us would be here right now.

    I just never thought that Apple would be the Mapping type. I don't know why they think it's valuable to them. It's not because Apple wanted features that Google couldn't give. Google Maps has more features than Apple Maps will ever have in the near future.

    So, I mean I just don't get it.
    09-26-2012 09:30 PM
  10. Exxod's Avatar
    Yesterday, I used Apple Maps to route a hundred mile trip without any problems. Turn-by-turn and the hybrid map worked perfectly.
    09-26-2012 09:30 PM
  11. kch50428's Avatar
    It's a flawed philosophy. Forget Google?

    Google the company has imperial influence. In fact, if it wasn't for Google, none of us would be here right now.

    I just never thought that Apple would be the Mapping type. I don't know why they think it's valuable to them. It's not because Apple wanted features that Google couldn't give. Google Maps has more features than Apple Maps will ever have in the near future.

    So, I mean I just don't get it.
    The "imperial influence" idea of the post is pure bovine processed feed grains.... and your last line is finally the only truth we'll ever see from you.
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    09-26-2012 09:36 PM
  12. GPAbsinthe's Avatar
    Damn, boy! What is it about Maps? Is it even worth 30 seconds of attention, whether you like it or not, once you've got to use it and make your opinion? I wouldn't even care if the phone came without it, and Apple left it to the many available options in App Store. I find it nice that they're still adding one themselves now they don't have an agreement with Google anymore - and I'm not surprised they were ready to take a bullet or two in the beginning, in order to provide the same functionality as ever.

    Get stranded? Are you mad? If you can't cope with the actual Maps to get you where you wanna go, well you need a taxi my friend. Turn by turn may not be foolproof in lesser areas, but if Maps still can pinpoint me and direct me here in Salaberry-de-Valleyfield, QC, CA, well it can pinpoint pretty much anything. Of course 3D isn't relevant neither in my area, more of an angled 2D rendering, but the flat map still does the trick. In time it will be perfect.
    09-26-2012 09:36 PM
  13. pink2's Avatar
    I have only used apples map once to get directions home using Siri and since i had my phone linked to my car it was the only navigation app that allowed the voice to come through the phone so I could hear the directions in all my other navigation apps my car silences my phone and I can't hear the directions. The directions were also accurate so I have no complaints. I agree with previous poster that it is a new app and they will improve it.
    09-26-2012 09:38 PM
  14. BLiNK's Avatar
    It's a flawed philosophy. Forget Google?

    Google the company has imperial influence. In fact, if it wasn't for Google, none of us would be here right now.

    I just never thought that Apple would be the Mapping type. I don't know why they think it's valuable to them. It's not because Apple wanted features that Google couldn't give. Google Maps has more features than Apple Maps will ever have in the near future.

    So, I mean I just don't get it.
    so you can tell the future now?? gtfo. just so you know Apple is aggressively perusing ex Google employees to help in this dept

    why is nothing ever good enough for you?

    do everyone a favor and put down the Code Red Mountain Dew, turn off your computer, leave your parents basement and go do some community service somewhere. JFC
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    09-26-2012 09:43 PM
  15. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    It's a flawed philosophy. Forget Google?

    Google the company has imperial influence. In fact, if it wasn't for Google, none of us would be here right now.

    I just never thought that Apple would be the Mapping type. I don't know why they think it's valuable to them. It's not because Apple wanted features that Google couldn't give. Google Maps has more features than Apple Maps will ever have in the near future.

    So, I mean I just don't get it.
    Did you read the above posted articles? This was important to apple and google dust deliver so they dropped it. Sure their maps application isn't better right now but that's not the point. Apple made a strategic move for the future. Sure they looked at the pros and cons. And they have to deal with those. But again maps is one application that's most users probably don't use on a regular basis and if they do its still not worth dropping a device or OS for. Again people making a fuss about an app all because of their personal preferences not realizing they are the minority. Again I don't agree with everything but everything isn't as clear cut and short sighted as we want it to be.

    I had to buy a 3rd party navigation app (navigon) because google maps wasn't sufficient for me.

    I'm done with this subject for the night. Not going to get worked up over 1 app that I barely used. On android you need 3rd party apps to do everything but that's another story that android fans would want to disregard.
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    09-26-2012 09:44 PM
  16. Fausty82's Avatar
    Yesterday, I used Apple Maps to route a hundred mile trip without any problems. Turn-by-turn and the hybrid map worked perfectly.
    I have used turn-by-turn twice and it was spot on both times. Who really just sits and looks at the maps? Or more correctly, the complaints are on the maps, but rather on the satellite images. I really don't see an issue here...
    09-26-2012 09:49 PM
  17. sudbury78's Avatar
    Wow, as the OP, I opened a can of worms as most every forum has become, an apple bashing thread from fandroids. Isn't there android central they can troll and destroy?

    Bit perturbed by the 5% selloff this week in its stock. Would like to see a rebound to end the quarter this week.
    09-26-2012 10:00 PM
  18. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    Wow, as the OP, I opened a can of worms as most every forum has become, an apple bashing thread from fandroids. Isn't there android central they can troll and destroy?

    Bit perturbed by the 5% selloff this week in its stock. Would like to see a rebound to end the quarter this week.
    Lol. Yeah that drop has almost been expected given the unrealistic expectation of sales figures. I believe the same thing happened last year it'll go back up especially is they do announce an iPad mini next month. And yes the apple/android pandora box is easily opened by users who always feel the need to compare, contrast and find something wrong as if what they are using is perfect when at far from it.
    09-26-2012 10:06 PM
  19. kxs783kms#WP's Avatar
    True true. That was to be my next comment. Apple's devices may not please perfection. But they have wiggle room because they're already decades ahead of the competition.
    LMAO!! Decades ahead?? The ip5 is nice, not decades ahead of anything though.
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    09-26-2012 10:16 PM
  20. salscott's Avatar
    Yesterday, I used Apple Maps to route a hundred mile trip without any problems. Turn-by-turn and the hybrid map worked perfectly.
    Yep....I quite like it. It's very intuitive.
    09-26-2012 10:43 PM
  21. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    It's a flawed philosophy. Forget Google?

    Google the company has imperial influence. In fact, if it wasn't for Google, none of us would be here right now.

    I just never thought that Apple would be the Mapping type. I don't know why they think it's valuable to them. It's not because Apple wanted features that Google couldn't give. Google Maps has more features than Apple Maps will ever have in the near future.

    So, I mean I just don't get it.
    You don't get much...and based on your posts and fragmented "points" in this thread, it's not surprising.
    09-26-2012 10:46 PM
  22. Exxod's Avatar
    I have used turn-by-turn twice and it was spot on both times. Who really just sits and looks at the maps? Or more correctly, the complaints are on the maps, but rather on the satellite images. I really don't see an issue here...
    Everything has worked fine. Siri's directions were spot on; and all the roads and distances were correct. Most of the complaints so far seem to be superficial and unrelated to the integral functions of the app itself.


    Yep....I quite like it. It's very intuitive.
    I think so to. I really love how the lock screen turns into a real-time display of the route.
    09-26-2012 10:52 PM
  23. metrion's Avatar
    What is it with these companies that try to "roll the dice" against Google in order to obtain a monopoly.

    Microsoft tried to pwn Google for 10 years with Bing and they've gotten NOWHERE.

    I mean, nowhere.

    Now Apple's trying to do it with Maps. You think they might want to try to start their own search engine?

    They could. It might only be able to pull up like 2 pages but still.
    09-26-2012 11:01 PM
  24. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    What is it with these companies that try to "roll the dice" against Google in order to obtain a monopoly.

    Microsoft tried to pwn Google for 10 years with Bing and they've gotten NOWHERE.

    I mean, nowhere.

    Now Apple's trying to do it with Maps. You think they might want to try to start their own search engine?

    They could. It might only be able to pull up like 2 pages but still.
    It's not rolling the dice. Why is apple not allowed to go their own direction? Just like Samsung disallowed google now on the gs3 and went with their own s-voice, apple is allowed to do the same. Everyone doesn't have to be dependent on google. Just like google wants us to use all their stuff so do all the other companies. Why is google allowed to have the monopoly? Actually what apple is doing is taking the monopoly from google by offering a different product. This conversation starting to get ridiculous now. Apple or anything other company does not have to use google services if they don't want. It's just that simple.
    09-26-2012 11:14 PM
  25. metrion's Avatar
    But you don't earn a Monopoly by being crappy. I mean look at Bing. It'll never get off the ground. They're wasting resources.

    I have faith in Apple Maps in like 20 years from now. But I don't wait that long. I've used it and it seems cool but you can tell it's going to take a looooong time to become relevant.
    09-26-2012 11:18 PM
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