1. twrell's Avatar
    Is there really not going to be 1gb of RAM in the 4S?..if so, why couldn't siri work on the ipad2?
    10-06-2011 02:57 PM
  2. bamf-hacker's Avatar
    I think Siri would work on the iPad 2, but they need something to justify the iPhone 4s. Really it is just an snappier phone with a better camera. This update is all about the OS and all the new features. Siri gives those users that will be spending $$ on launch something to make them special.
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    10-06-2011 03:28 PM
  3. Hoagie5252's Avatar
    512 reported but do we really care as long as it works.
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    10-06-2011 03:29 PM
  4. AdamRoxby's Avatar
    Well I was wondering, if the new iPhone doesn't have 1 GB of RAM then could Siri potentially work on some of the older devices?

    Being dyslexic and spending most of my time writing with the aid of dictation software I personally think that Siri is the killer feature but am wondering if it is compelling enough to purchase?

    What do you think?
    10-06-2011 04:17 PM
  5. Bias X's Avatar
    I've seen a few threads that SIRI requires 1GB of RAM. To say if thats true or not, I do not know.
    10-06-2011 04:27 PM
  6. zackawee27's Avatar
    SIRI is a major feature in iOS 5. you need 1GB of ram.
    10-06-2011 05:04 PM
  7. pilsbury's Avatar
    Doesnt Siri need GPS capabilities to function?
    10-06-2011 05:10 PM
  8. SkiPPy087's Avatar
    SIRI is a major feature in iOS 5. you need 1GB of ram.
    What qualifies you to make this statement?
    10-06-2011 05:21 PM
  9. Raptor007's Avatar
    It needs a connection back to the serves, and my understanding was it needs the extra CPU power (and perhaps memory) to handle the demands. I don't know for sure, but since a lot of users don't actually double tap the home button and close apps I would hope apple included more than a sufficient amount of RAM.
    10-08-2011 04:15 PM
  10. DrewBear's Avatar
    We won't know the answer to this question until Apple explains. What's interesting is that one group of people assume Apple is intentionally withholding a feature for no logical reason. You may not agree with why they do certain things (e.g. no Flash), but they do have a logical reason for their actions and it's not just to squeeze more dollars from loyal customers.
    10-08-2011 05:17 PM
  11. Netherscourge's Avatar
    Wasn't there a Siri App that Apple pulled recently that ran on all the current iOS devices?
    10-08-2011 07:27 PM
  12. MustangLife's Avatar
    I think Siri would work on the iPad 2, but they need something to justify the iPhone 4s. Really it is just an snappier phone with a better camera. This update is all about the OS and all the new features. Siri gives those users that will be spending $$ on launch something to make them special.
    This is what I found on the developer part of this forum copied below

    "Everything I've read from jailbreak boards seems to indicate the SIRI app is highly integrated into the root code of the iP4S - and written in such a way that the iP4S hardware is required, and a work-around to make it work on any other device than the iP4S is unlikely to happen any time soon, if at all."

    So looks like it will take time but only be available for Iphone4 or Ipad2 in a jailbroken app. I don't see why it won't be possible. Siri was originally a app not owned by Apple in the App store that ran on the iphone4. I think its possible but might take a few months. If Apple didn't make the Siri advanced voice control a Iphone 4S specific program. They would lose a selling point for people to upgrade to the new Iphone4S.
    10-08-2011 07:36 PM
  13. Jellotime91's Avatar
    We won't know the answer to this question until Apple explains. What's interesting is that one group of people assume Apple is intentionally withholding a feature for no logical reason. You may not agree with why they do certain things (e.g. no Flash), but they do have a logical reason for their actions and it's not just to squeeze more dollars from loyal customers.
    Apple will probably not ever tell us how much RAM the iPhone 4S has.

    iFixit or iRepair or iWhatever will tell us.
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    10-08-2011 07:42 PM
  14. DrewBear's Avatar
    We won't know the answer to this question until Apple explains. What's interesting is that one group of people assume Apple is intentionally withholding a feature for no logical reason. You may not agree with why they do certain things (e.g. no Flash), but they do have a logical reason for their actions and it's not just to squeeze more dollars from loyal customers.
    Apple will probably not ever tell us how much RAM the iPhone 4S has.

    iFixit or iRepair or iWhatever will tell us.
    I agree. I meant that if it turns out that the 4S has the same amount of RAM as the iPad 2, Apple will probably still have a logical reason for not allowing Siri to work on the iPad 2. But RAM is the most easily proved theoretical reason, so we'll find out on Friday. Those tear-apart guys are pretty quick.

    My broader point was that there are people who always presume the worst of Apple.
    10-08-2011 08:05 PM
  15. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    People are way too caught up on specs these days instead of performance...they tend to glance away from things based on numbers on paper vs. performance in hand. Many people do this in the automotive world too...and they miss out on some really amazing machines.
    10-08-2011 08:06 PM
  16. johndhynes's Avatar
    Siri worked fine on 3GS, until recently. Can't see why it would need a gig, unless it does a lot more than the standalone app. But either way, why disable the app on existing phones?

    If it does have a gig of RAM, maybe it's fast enough for Flash...
    10-08-2011 10:30 PM
  17. Jellotime91's Avatar
    I agree. I meant that if it turns out that the 4S has the same amount of RAM as the iPad 2, Apple will probably still have a logical reason for not allowing Siri to work on the iPad 2. But RAM is the most easily proved theoretical reason, so we'll find out on Friday. Those tear-apart guys are pretty quick.

    My broader point was that there are people who always presume the worst of Apple.
    Well the reason I wouldn't put Siri on the iPad is because it doesn't really make sense... Most iPads are not always connected to the internet, unlike iPhones. That's why it doesn't make sense on the iPod either. Also, you don't walk around with your iPad and headphones. From a usability standpoint, Siri just doesn't make sense on an iPad. Also at the distance people hold iPad's from their face when using them, it would be difficult to pick up quality audio for Siri.

    I don't really think Siri will ever come to the iPad, but it might if they get enough customers asking for it.
    10-08-2011 11:25 PM
  18. johndhynes's Avatar
    What iPads are not always on the Internet? Mine is always at home on wi-fi. Anywhere else I'd be using it would also have wi-fi. In between it's packed away. Many people also have 3G. The only difference I can think of is that most people, including me, don't use it while driving.
    10-09-2011 12:44 AM
  19. Jellotime91's Avatar
    What iPads are not always on the Internet? Mine is always at home on wi-fi. Anywhere else I'd be using it would also have wi-fi. In between it's packed away. Many people also have 3G. The only difference I can think of is that most people, including me, don't use it while driving.
    Plenty of people use their iPads at school or work without an Internet connection on the wifi-only version.
    10-09-2011 01:42 AM
  20. johndhynes's Avatar
    News to me. Forget Siri, they wouldn't be doing much of anything. Seems like just about everyone has wifi these days, and if they don't then why bother? You're right that people aren't likely walking around with headphones. iPods have voice control without being always online.

    Even so, every iPad is online some of the time and many are online all the time, so that in itself is not it. If this feature is intended for hands-free driving, it makes a bit more sense. I expect to be using it a lot on my 4S, looking up addresses and directions, making calls, controlling audio, composing texts, etc. I won't do that with my iPad 'cuz I can't put it in my pocket or make voice calls.
    10-09-2011 02:14 AM
  21. Jellotime91's Avatar
    News to me. Forget Siri, they wouldn't be doing much of anything. Seems like just about everyone has wifi these days, and if they don't then why bother? You're right that people aren't likely walking around with headphones. iPods have voice control without being always online.

    Even so, every iPad is online some of the time and many are online all the time, so that in itself is not it. If this feature is intended for hands-free driving, it makes a bit more sense. I expect to be using it a lot on my 4S, looking up addresses and directions, making calls, controlling audio, composing texts, etc. I won't do that with my iPad 'cuz I can't put it in my pocket or make voice calls.
    It's news to you that the WiFi iPad is more popular and people sometimes use them offline? Really? lol

    VoiceOver doesn't require an internet connection. Siri does. And Apple has made it clear that they don't care to put Siri on the iPod at this time, and I think that's because the iPod is not an always-online device. I still think Siri would be really awkward on the iPad because of the form factor. Also it would do so much less than it does on the iPhone.
    10-09-2011 02:43 AM
  22. johndhynes's Avatar
    I agree about the form factor. As I said, I wouldn't use it while driving.

    Voice controls don't work in airplane mode. Check it out. VoiceOver is something else.

    I have a wifi iPad and couldn't imagine using it for much offline.
    10-09-2011 02:55 AM
  23. CarrieMK's Avatar
    We won't know the answer to this question until Apple explains. What's interesting is that one group of people assume Apple is intentionally withholding a feature for no logical reason. You may not agree with why they do certain things (e.g. no Flash), but they do have a logical reason for their actions and it's not just to squeeze more dollars from loyal customers.
    I am trying to learn all I can and everyone has been very helpful. I had heard about the inavailability of Flash. Does this affect the web experience or watching videos on YouTube? Is there a reason Flash is not available? Thank you.
    10-09-2011 09:13 AM
  24. zackawee27's Avatar
    I am trying to learn all I can and everyone has been very helpful. I had heard about the inavailability of Flash. Does this affect the web experience or watching videos on YouTube? Is there a reason Flash is not available? Thank you.
    No, it doesn't affect watching videos on the built in YouTube App, but you can't watch it on the browser which is no big deal. And it shouldn't really affect his web experience unless he watchs like online tv episodes, if he really wants it he can buy something in the App Store called: iSWiFTER and it enables him to watch flash videos on a different browser. Flash is available in iOS, except they just won't enable it. Why they won't is because Apple thinks it might violet the Terms of Service with developers. Anyways yeah Flash could work with the App.
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    10-09-2011 09:19 AM
  25. CarrieMK's Avatar
    No, it doesn't affect watching videos on the built in YouTube App, but you can't watch it on the browser which is no big deal. And it shouldn't really affect his web experience unless he watchs like online tv episodes, if he really wants it he can buy something in the App Store called: iSWiFTER and it enables him to watch flash videos on a different browser. Flash is available in iOS, except they just won't enable it. Why they won't is because Apple thinks it might violet the Terms of Service with developers. Anyways yeah Flash could work with the App.
    Thank you for being my iGuru and taking the time to answer my questions
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    10-09-2011 09:25 AM
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