[r.santa1]

Actually a moped is far more reliable than a ferrari...Iphone is ok but multi tasking is still weak compared to a bold 9700 series.

I am not a troll, i have used them all (except droid which is not in the same league as Iphone) and I am giving my honest opinions.

Apple does well the web /gaming experience and RIM does the communicating phone part much better!

I cant even get my emails with attachments to come thru with consistency. Sometimes the pdf is there and others it asks me to download. Then forwarding them to another works sometimes and sometimes not...

I have found that I use th i4 much more for fun than work. My productivity and speed of actually working while on the road/airports has slowed a ton with the i4.

FOR ME, the perfect combo i feel is the Bold 9780 and my new Mac bok air with verizon aircard...

All the comments are fun and i really do appreciate others opinions if they have anything other to say than "trollerific"..

LMAO!

[Mella]

Well, the ability to tether your iPhone to your laptop is one of the most popular reasons why people people jailbreak. My reason of jailbreaking is for more Apps, that some are not available through iTunes App Store or Apple authorised.
And the second is jailbreaking is fully reversible.

hmm, I think many guys are converted LOL

[porksoda]

There are some things I like but as a phone and communication device it fails compared to the blackberry Bold...

As someone who came from a bold who used the new torch before getting the ip4... either you havn't found all the uses for your phone or you just are too much of a fanboy for rim.

In my experience with ip4 my emailing and messaging is far more productive than the bold. I use my phone solely for business but since i got the ip4 i cant seem to keep my hands off while at home also.

Typing, true takes some time... but once you are set/comfortable i find it a lot easier than the bold... (crazy right)? my fingers don't tire and the ability to go landscape vs portrait and the very powerful auto correct is fantastic... It took me a while to find the undo but having undo auto correct i am typing very efficiently.

That was the only pro for the bold.. keyboard... what else did it have? oh right nothing else.

Browsing is fantastic and tons of games n apps that will fill your appetite no matter who you are.

The only improvements you can make requires a jb and i will more than likely to get there sooner than later.

I used to be one of those people who used to "make fun" and "look down" on people with ip4 but you gotta give credit where its due.. its the most balanced device out there... even as a phone its a lot better than my 9700.

[r.santa1]

Pork, I am no fanboy at all...I truly think the I4 is a great device for all you have said except for the email. I hate that every time i open the email icon it has to run and check for messages. Maybe I have it set wrong? I do not push because of the battery drain...better way?

Pdf's are a major problem for me. I am on corp gmail account that syncs and sometimes pdf's are there(i bought pdf reader app) and sometime I have to download them before forwarding. it takes forever to do that and half the time server times out unless on wifi...

It is ok for phone but it does drop alot of calls on 3g in Boise Area which never happened with my bold 9700...Boise is pretty flat and good 3g coverage.

I might have a hard time going back to 9780 actually but unless i can fix this email problem (I can live with some dropped calls) I might have to..

Any ideas on pdf issue?

[porksoda]

Ok.

What pdf issues you having?

For email... i will say push i have disabled to i am using imap and it checks every 15 mins. If the attachment is big it has to go get it.

I have various pdfs sent to me on regular basis and i store a large amount of pdfs on the phone for reference when i am out of the office... i am not sure what you mean by pdf issue... please explain.

Also i have not bought any app to view any documents yet.

As for service if you are in states its the at&t i am told... me being in canada i have had zero service issues in my condo on the 34th floor my bold had service problems and my ip4 has had none to date.

I have heard through various people that service in us via atnt is not that great also with the death grip it goes down a few bars but doesnt drop the call.

Just to add... for email... i LOVE the fact when i get a html email that it shows perfectly on the ip4 whereas on the bold it took so much longer and was never formatted properly.

[porksoda]

Well, the ability to tether your iPhone to your laptop is one of the most popular reasons why people people jailbreak. My reason of jailbreaking is for more Apps, that some are not available through iTunes App Store or Apple authorised.
And the second is jailbreaking is fully reversible.

hmm, I think many guys are converted LOL

in us is the tethering disabled on the ip4? I am asking because on my phone there is a tethering option in my phone for which i need to be pluged in to my computer.

[farbod21]

in us is the tethering disabled on the ip4? I am asking because on my phone there is a tethering option in my phone for which i need to be pluged in to my computer.

Not disabled, but you have to pay for it and you cant have unlimited data plan.

[NickCurtis]

... to Team Jailbreak. I've been against it all this time, always saying that it's good enough just the way it is. But I stand corrected. SBSettings, BiteSMS, themes, Installous, etc. etc. etc. ... Why did I never see the light sooner??

Just thought I would do a little Jailbreaking evangelism as a result of my recent crossover

Dude, conversion is not a sin nor a mistake. It happens from one person as soon as they are enlightened by dark (lol). Just don't overdo the jb because you might end up losing yourself after your recent transition.
Anyways, enjoy being a jb and spread the infection.

[porksoda]

Not disabled, but you have to pay for it and you cant have unlimited data plan.

Ah... In Canada with plans over 1gb tethering is included. At the same time we have no unlimited data plan atleast on Rogers.

[sharky2006]

LOL

I hate my Ferrari, my moped was so much more fun...

you hit the nail on the head right there LOL.

[watsnow]

haha

[bamf-hacker]

#team Jailbreak FTW.

Once you go JB you wont go back. It makes the phone more functional.

[Ipheuria]

r.santa not every1 is going to love the iPhone, this is an iPhone forum so ofcourse we all love it and can't see how someone else couldn't but personal choice dictates that not everyone will love it that's life. The PDF issue I'd love to help you too if I could but without knowing the problem the one thing I thought is you could try dropbox which is a free service and it has a client for both iPhone and computer. So instead of having the PDFs in the emails you could put them into your dropbox and have them accessible from the phone. This might not work depending on what exactly is your issue so if you give us more info maybe we can come up with a solution for you. It just may be too painful for you and maybe BB is a better fit.

The physical keyboard I have to say after using an android phone I can't understand why anyone would ever want to use one??? to me phsyical keyboard = Fail!

[anon(4698833)]

rsanta...when you come on an iphone blog/forum, and express your distaste of the iPhone using labels such as "boring" and saying that it doesnt hold a candle to your BB Bold (which i also own, and despise btw)...you're a troll. So your blackberry does email for you better...holy sh*t bud! what a ground breaking revelation! A blackberry that does email right!

Bottom line, you come into a thread about a person who bought an iPhone and loves it, you have people welcoming him/her to the community and discussing things they want to try with the iPhone, and then you have a post like the one you made, raining on the parade, negatively comparing it as a boring device and saying its email system is worse than your Bold...you're trolling...trollerific.

Thanks for playing...

[iquinn]

rsanta...when you come on an iphone blog/forum, and express your distaste of the iPhone using labels such as "boring" and saying that it doesnt hold a candle to your BB Bold (which i also own, and despise btw)...you're a troll. So your blackberry does email for you better...holy sh*t bud! what a ground breaking revelation! A blackberry that does email right!

Bottom line, you come into a thread about a person who bought an iPhone and loves it, you have people welcoming him/her to the community and discussing things they want to try with the iPhone, and then you have a post like the one you made, raining on the parade, negatively comparing it as a boring device and saying its email system is worse than your Bold...you're trolling...trollerific.

Thanks for playing...

What he said FTW

[jonmark]

rsanta...when you come on an iphone blog/forum, and express your distaste of the iPhone using labels such as "boring" and saying that it doesnt hold a candle to your BB Bold (which i also own, and despise btw)...you're a troll. So your blackberry does email for you better...holy sh*t bud! what a ground breaking revelation! A blackberry that does email right!

Bottom line, you come into a thread about a person who bought an iPhone and loves it, you have people welcoming him/her to the community and discussing things they want to try with the iPhone, and then you have a post like the one you made, raining on the parade, negatively comparing it as a boring device and saying its email system is worse than your Bold...you're trolling...trollerific.

Thanks for playing...

I'm cosigning this.

[BLiNK]

honestly, i have no problem with the iPhone & emails.. other than POP, that's another issue in itself, i hate it

[porksoda]

... to Team Jailbreak. I've been against it all this time, always saying that it's good enough just the way it is. But I stand corrected. SBSettings, BiteSMS, themes, Installous, etc. etc. etc. ... Why did I never see the light sooner??

Just thought I would do a little Jailbreaking evangelism as a result of my recent crossover

Well Jon after reading your post when you posted it and doing the search and thanks to this forum i took the plunge... i have greenpois0n'd my ip4 and sbsettings and mail notification sound through fs is reason enough.

I was going to wait for official 4.2 and cydia 4.2... but i couldnt wait any longer and did it today.

I agree... having ip4 when you jb you just unleash the full capability of this device!!!

[jonmark]

Well Jon after reading your post when you posted it and doing the search and thanks to this forum i took the plunge... i have greenpois0n'd my ip4 and sbsettings and mail notification sound through fs is reason enough.

I was going to wait for official 4.2 and cydia 4.2... but i couldnt wait any longer and did it today.

I agree... having ip4 when you jb you just unleash the full capability of this device!!!

Glory, glory, hallelujah! Another has converted! haha

[jdavis530]

lol

i hate my ferrari, my moped was so much more fun...

lol............

[dcy4pres]

Staying #TeamPure here. Though there is some cool stuff that can be done with JB, I just do not have a need or want to do it.

I still feel the same way, the main reason that keeps me jailbroken is sbsettings. Its so easy to use, I question why there isn't any app for it in the main app store.

[jdavis530]

SBSettings is a great tool. I am also very fond of LockInfo.

[FobBerry]

I converted early this week too using Limera1n, it's pretty cool. I still haven't unleashed it's full potential yet but I am loving the fact I can have my name at the top of the screen instead of having my carriers name there.

What are some of the best apps to use? I've read a few but don't fully understand what they are/what they do?

After JB'ing your iPhone what were the first things you did? ...

[djqstorm]

I couldn't use this phone if it was not jailbroken. I think Jailbreaking sets it apart form the other OS's.

[anon(27512)]

The only reason I jailbreak is for liveclock and weathericon.

Themes are effing stupid. Nothing is complete and 90% of them are made by 12 year olds on a pirated copy of Photoshop 7.

The thing is I can't blame them because it's literally impossible to complete a theme. Certain themes like illumine will skin the icons automatically but it doesn't look right.

I really think people shouldn't even bother with themes unless there is an actual theming framework brought into the app store (which there never will be, FYI).

Yea I agree. Not hating on jailbreak, I mean mywi is worth it in itself. Everything else though seems to REALLY slow down my phone, which is sad because the a4 is far from slow. Plus I find it annoying cydia has to "reload" EVERY time I launch it. It's so unnecessary.