See, this is why you get called an appologist.
i did say "it might seem stupid that it can't"
hardly appologist....read more closely next time, thanks!
it might seem stupid that the iPhone doesn't allow for such but customized ringers beyond what the iPhone already offers seems almost sophmoric in my opinion.
3 things:
-Oalveraz silent on his Treo antenna breaking assertion, I supposed admitting he got his bluff called by asserting a falsehood.
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Of course that wasn't the whole quote:
You are so FOS. If this was Palm we're talking about you'd slam them.
Personalized phones anyone? And yes, they're important to some for that very reason. And also to assign different ringtones to different callers.
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you CAN assign different ringtones, you make it seem as though one can't. you just can't assign a boyz to men ringtone to a specific caller, and once again i will repeat that it seems stupid that one can't. i personally don't care to, the choices that are available to me seem sufficient, but then again, i don't use them.
And by the way, the use of ringtones is hardly sophomoric...it's big business.
Face it...Apple excluded it until they could figure out a way to make you pay for them.
But hey, they are just maximizing profit...the fact they got the Euroboys to cough up 10 percent of call and data revenue is a testament to their focus.
The fact they milked AT&T did surprise me, but to see the Euro telecomm bend over was surprising.
I wonder how long before Nokia, Sony, and the other start wanting a cut.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=4077602&postcount=164coolbreeze
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I had to restore, and lost countless notes, all my visual voicemails, settings, etc. No my phone wasn't hacked.
Buyer beware. Apple either needs to fix the broken update process or give us a reliable way to back things up (i.e. integrate notes with the computer).
This is great. I had so many work notes, names, to-do lists.
Not sure what I'm going to do now. They are gone forever. For once I wish I still had my blackerry. At least it was solidly reliable with data/syncing/backing up/etc.
Edit: I was reading more on this, and as many have mentioned, it seems Apple decided to trash people's phones who added ringers, etc with ifuntastic, etc. I wasn't one of them, but here's my concern. SO WHAT if people wanted to put a silly ringtone on their phone. Apple decides to get revenge by WIPING their notes, voicemails, etc. Not cool, and certainly not cool if you use the phone for business. No, you shouldn't hack a business phone, but Apple shouldn't retaliate to this extreme. Imagine if in the future you load an "unsigned" app or something, innocently update to 1.1.4 or something, and BAM, everything's gone. It would have been one thing if Apple stated clearly "if you hacked your iPhone, all software updates will erase notes, voicemail, etc, etc."
...or they could have simply allowed us to make a working backup. I'm not referring to the iTunes copy that suddenly disappears during the update either.
Now, wonder why this happened to my phone? Makes me nervous, that's for sure.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=342307- - Games, but No IM App Yet
scotty588 08-15-2007 03:22 PM
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Games, but No IM App Yet
Don't get me wrong games are fun, but I am really dying for an iChat app. I haven't used "jailbreak" on my phone yet, but if someone comes out with an IM app I think I might. If people can make these games I am sure this is possible. Just my 2 cents.
AHDuke99 08-15-2007 05:38 PM
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http://www.beejive.com/iphone/
scotty588 08-15-2007 07:14 PM
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http://www.beejive.com/iphone/
I am well aware of the many web apps for IMing. I am talking about actual apps that sit in the menu of the phone.
cmaier 08-16-2007 11:36 AM
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I am well aware of the many web apps for IMing. I am talking about actual apps that sit in the menu of the phone.
What would be the advantage of a native app over a web app like the new meebo client or beejive?
I always use web clients on my desktop for IM, so i'm just wondering. The only thing I can think of is a native client could at least turn off the screen and "wake up" on an incoming chat or something, but I'm imagining the radio polling is burning more battery than the screen.
The General 08-16-2007 12:03 PM
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What would be the advantage of a native app over a web app like the new meebo client or beejive?
I always use web clients on my desktop for IM, so i'm just wondering. The only thing I can think of is a native client could at least turn off the screen and "wake up" on an incoming chat or something, but I'm imagining the radio polling is burning more battery than the screen.
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I can think of several off the bat:
-Multitasking
-Screen wake/sleep
-Better integration
-Easy network reconnect in the event of a drop. Similar to what FlickIM has, but can usually be implemented better natively.
-Faster UI
kwjohns 08-18-2007 07:57 PM
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I can think of several off the bat:
-Multitasking
-Screen wake/sleep
-Better integration
-Easy network reconnect in the event of a drop. Similar to what FlickIM has, but can usually be implemented better natively.
-Faster UI
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-Notification of a received IM via a popup, tone or vibrate.
-Don't have to download the images that make up the interface everytime you connect (could file under faster UI)
IDANNY 08-18-2007 08:32 PM
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Not to mention the web apps disconnect you if you have your phone on standby. A phone app wouldnt do that.
racemize 08-20-2007 10:13 AM
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it's needed for the notification (i.e., vibrate on receive like an sms or email message).
http://forums.macrumors.com/printthread.php?t=340337cmaier 08-11-2007 04:01 PM
Originally Posted by The General (Post 4035924)
There are people who haven't jailbreak'd?
What are you talking about? You've managed to blow this way out of proportion. You're reading between the lines and putting words in my mouth. Web apps are trash, period. That's all they are, straight up garbage. Every last one of them. Are you just bitter because you've wasted a lot of time on this junk?
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=335882
Did you make those?
If you want to develop good programs, then write native apps. There are more people who have jailbreak'd and use these new native apps than there are people who want to look at this web 2.0 nonsense.
I'm not making a political statement at all. What I'm saying is that we don't need 30 different BeJeweled web apps, especially since they are all garbage.
I don't care whether or not you think my opinion is silly. It's silly of you to say something like that.
So, I will repeat:
I think web apps are absolutely useless garbage that need to disappear. None of them serve any purpose whatsoever, and they all half work. If you want to make an application, write a native one.
Rather than read any more of your childish nonsense, I'll just add you to my ignore list. You clearly have nothing worthwhile to say.