Vision Pro will be lucky to hit half a million sales this year, according to industry tracker

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They're just reporting what the marketing and research firm has said. Everyone from Business Insider to The Verge is reporting the same thing.

Actually no, bloom berg is known to make stuff up especially about apple, all the time.

Like the time they alleged apple had been hacked by the Chinese govt. . bloom berg alleged that the Chinese govt had infiltrated Apple and installed secret backdoor chips.

Business insider is actually owned by a German tabloid company. I wouldn’t call them accurate.
 

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Actually no, bloom berg is known to make stuff up especially about apple, all the time.

Like the time they alleged apple had been hacked by the Chinese govt. . bloom berg alleged that the Chinese govt had infiltrated Apple and installed secret backdoor chips.

Business insider is actually owned by a German tabloid company. I wouldn’t call them accurate.
There were actually quite a number of sites reporting this same thing.
 

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There were actually quite a number of sites reporting this same thing.

You mean a number of sites were citing Bloom berg.

Bloomberg claimed in q1 24 that iPhones were in decline in China and everyone repeated it, only to be debunked during Apples quarterly earnings where it was disclosed iPhone had increased market share in China.

God bless Bloom berg, they aren’t accurate. but they managed to push the stock down during q1, bought the dip, and it’s back up now over 230.

Hope their next story pushes Appl below 165.
 

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You mean a number of sites were citing Bloom berg.

Bloomberg claimed in q1 24 that iPhones were in decline in China and everyone repeated it, only to be debunked during Apples quarterly earnings where it was disclosed iPhone had increased market share in China.

God bless Bloom berg, they aren’t accurate. but they managed to push the stock down during q1, bought the dip, and it’s back up now over 230.

Hope their next story pushes Appl below 165.
No. IDC, the marketing and research firm. That's who they're all citing.
 

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No. IDC, the marketing and research firm. That's who they're all citing.

Idc, Gartner, strategy analytics, counterpoint research all track sales from retail and carrier channels only. They do not get any data from Apple Store sales. That’s the reason they underreport iPhone, iPad, Mac marketshare every quarter and have to “adjust” their figures after apples quarterly report. It’s also why Apples marketshare figures are not homogenous across the different firms reports.

Apple Vision Pro is only sold in Apple stores, they can only make up AVP numbers at this point.
 

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Because the device stinks?

Apple Vision Pro actually smells great.

Meta is absolutely terrified as meta already cancelled their Apple Vision Pro competitor.

To be specific lg cancelled their partnership with meta after having secured a couple avp units.

Samsung has already delayed their clone twice, and are frantically trying to reverse engineer one. This is not a joke they actually admitted it.

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For context: meta sold about 25,000 units of their $1,500 meta quest pro globally at launch making about 37 million dollars in revenue, Apple sold 200,000 $3,500-$4,000 Apple Vision Pros at launch in only one market making about 700 million- 800 million dollars. Not accounting for Apple care or accessories.

Rumors out of China and Japan claim Apple Vision Pro is selling very well in Asian markets and Europe is picking up steam.