1. Icyhot1966's Avatar
    Great idea about the ignore..oh, even if 4.3 was out for Verizon, I wouldn't upgrade. I like my JB 4.2.6 far too much
    03-12-2011 02:19 PM
  2. Iphonefour's Avatar
    Who is he trying to fool Ardoreal, himself?? Because no one here is lol. In his last post he claims to be "checking out the competition" and if its better, he said he could "move to it". He is so full of sh*t he is stinking up the forum lol. I say that because he hates Verizon. As a matter of fact, he had his "last straw" with them over a Blackberry, according to him. I copied and pasted something from him from one of his previous posts here. For your viewing pleasure


    I don't want to say that you personally were "duped". Nor do I want to say that your phone is not an iphone4.

    I just see, what I see, and I see it as somewhat of a slap in the face and more of VZW's shortcomings when it comes to the iPhone4.
    Some of the shenanigans I went through when I was with them.

    The "last straw" for me was the Blackberry Storm and then trying to charge me for one of the multiple ones I had to return to them.

    My wife and I had 8 Blackberry Storms between us. She wanted to wait on the VZW iPhone4, I went ahead on Labor day and got the ATT version, while she continued to struggle with VZW, fighting them over a better than $300.00 bill for a returned Blackberry. All the while she still kept VZW.

    Swore she wouldn't switch and would tough it out until the iPhone4 for VZW came out.

    Finally, she could take no more, seeing that charge for that returned

    Blackberry, still on her bill, and in November, after all of her talk of "dropped calls" and vowing how she would never go back to AT&T, I bought her an Iphone4 while she held onto her 4th and last VZW Blackberry.

    So she had two phones. Supposedly for "backup" since AT&T in her mind, dropped an excessive number of calls though she had not had AT&T for several years.

    AT&T had a 30 day return on the iPhone4. (VZW only had a 15 day return when they came out with it, but I digress and don't want to get sidetracked on yet another point). I could bring it back if she didn't like it. I told her if it dropped a single call, that back to ATT it would go. Just give it a chance.

    I haven't been able to get it away from her since the day I bought it. She is constantly using it at one time or another.

    It works like it's supposed to, and every iOS 4.x iPhone feature, with the exception of the hot spot, which will be available in a few days, is available to it.

    No dropped calls, no problems, just great service and absolute full functionality of the devices, without having to pull batteries, and without having to fight with the carrier over bogus charges.

    So we can have our cake, and eat it too.

    Then from the sidelines, I see the marketing campaign for the iPhone4, with VZW knowing full well the limitations their network puts on the device's capabilities.

    And now, approximately a month later this latest shoe drops. iOs 4.3 coming out for the other iPhone4, with great new features, to go along with the other great features available on the other network carrying the phone, but no word on when it will be out for the VZW version of the phone.

    Another slap in the face, that fortunately this time, I won't have to take.

    It's just that after being screwed so many times by them, I am immensely glad that I am no longer in a position to be screwed by them any further. Glad I
    got out when the getting was still good, and feel somewhat bad to see others
    getting what appears to be hosed by them, even though I am absent.

    This latest news on iOS 4.3, sort of cements it. I see them up to their same old tricks.

    End of copy and paste lol.........so, can you say TROLL???
    Even better than that. I can say that it is not impossible for VZW to win back a lost customer.

    Honestly guy, you need to calm down. You're liable to have a stroke or a heart attack, if you get this worked up and just downright angry at a total stranger on the Internet you don't like, ........and all over a telephone???

    Seeing how upset you get when you think someone has dissed something as trivial as your telephone, you must go completely ballistic if something is said unflattering about your computer, watch, hat, or coat.

    I would bid you "good day" sir...but you might even disagree with that, go ballistic again, and suffer a major stroke.

    So I won't. But you may want to look into some anger management classes.
    03-12-2011 02:26 PM
  3. Totalimmortal363's Avatar
    I see what you're saying, icyhot. I actually agree too. My iPhone is fantastic and people who like to being up the network speed issue clearly don't travel much.

    I've used AT&T's 3G in Denver, SanFrancisco, SLC, Houston, and Chicago and it's royally sucked in all those areas. Only in the most ideal situation that's opposite from peak hours do you have a decent experience. VZ might be a bit slower but the experience is the same everywhere. I'd rather have consistently good than "occasionally great". If you don't think along those lines then you're just a tool who needs to stfu.

    Furthermore, the iPhone 4 on iOS 4.2 is still far superior to every other smartphone available on VZW, so no complaints here. I'm happy with Apple AND VZW.

    But yeah, iphonefour is digging himself a hole. There is an easy solution though, put him on ignore. I already have. F that guy he can just talk to himself here.

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    I use AT&T 3G is Denver everyday, It's great. Dunno what to tell ya
    03-12-2011 02:27 PM
  4. Alli's Avatar
    Seriously guys, the testosterone is so thick in this thread I can barely read the posts.

    Move on with the topic and stop the quibbling before you're all put in time out or the thread gets closed.
    03-12-2011 02:36 PM
  5. Iphonefour's Avatar
    Seriously guys, the testosterone is so thick in this thread I can barely read the posts.

    Move on with the topic and stop the quibbling before you're all put in time out or the thread gets closed.

    I agree. The name calling, personal attacks, the "F him", which was directed at me, are uncalled for and have no place.

    Attacking ideas is one thing, but attacking people is quite another. There is no call for personal attacks, we are all adults here.

    The discussion is a good one without any of that personal attack stuff.
    03-12-2011 02:46 PM
  6. ardoreal's Avatar
    I use AT&T 3G is Denver everyday, It's great. Dunno what to tell ya
    In all honesty that was in august of 09. Back then the best speeds I could get were around 600kb/sec in various places in Denver. I NEVER got anything above 1.5mbps. If things are different now, that's too late for me to care. I get by just fine and LTE is coming. Good times are ahead for VZW users so something like a minor software bump that we have to wait for is a non-issue for me.


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    03-12-2011 02:50 PM
  7. ardoreal's Avatar
    Seriously guys, the testosterone is so thick in this thread I can barely read the posts.

    Move on with the topic and stop the quibbling before you're all put in time out or the thread gets closed.
    I know that you might feel the need as a mod to deal with an issue when someone reports an issue. However, if the mods here are into dealing out group punishment rather than deal with one problem user that's blatantly inflammatory, and then post a "you been naughty" message when said user cries foul like a little baby, then enjoy being a niche community. Cya later.

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    03-12-2011 02:54 PM
  8. beastcmg's Avatar
    So to try to get back on track here a bit.
    Do you think the VZW iPhone will be updated when Apple puts out 4.3.1 for the security fix?
    03-12-2011 03:57 PM
  9. ardoreal's Avatar
    So to try to get back on track here a bit.
    Do you think the VZW iPhone will be updated when Apple puts out 4.3.1 for the security fix?
    Who knows. I agree with the folks speculating that it's VZW holding things up. That's probably a good bet too though. It would also fit in with past behavior for VZW on updates, the Droid X went through something very similar before it finally got Froyo.


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    03-12-2011 04:00 PM
  10. kch50428's Avatar
    I agree with the folks speculating that it's VZW holding things up.
    I don't.

    Nearly everything about the iPhone is seemingly contrary to everything I thought I knew about Verizon.

    The iPhone is Apple's baby - and Verizon is not going to tell them when they can or can't release an OS update.
    03-12-2011 04:23 PM
  11. Icyhot1966's Avatar
    I don't.

    Nearly everything about the iPhone is seemingly contrary to everything I thought I knew about Verizon.

    The iPhone is Apple's baby - and Verizon is not going to tell them when they can or can't release an OS update.
    Agreed. And 4.3 will come sooner rather than later.
    03-12-2011 04:42 PM
  12. epphllps's Avatar
    As previously stated, VZW has ZERO input on iPhone updates and their release. The only thing they might have any involvement in is the carrier settings updates.
    03-12-2011 05:24 PM
  13. ardoreal's Avatar
    I hear where you guys are coming from, but your opinions aren't based on any information, just speculation. If Apple had made some kind of comment about it I can understand that. Given that this is typical behavior for devices on VZW's network, I'm going with it being a VZW holdup unless someone privy to the process can elaborate.


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    03-12-2011 06:10 PM
  14. epphllps's Avatar
    I hear where you guys are coming from, but your opinions aren't based on any information, just speculation. If Apple had made some kind of comment about it I can understand that. Given that this is typical behavior for devices on VZW's network, I'm going with it being a VZW holdup unless someone privy to the process cam elaborate.


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    Let me repeat....VZW has ZERO input on iPhone updates and their release. Do I need to make that my signature? lol I am not new to the iPhone and there has never been an update released based on a carrier giving the go ahead. In summary, VZW has NOTHING to do with the ViP4 not getting 4.3

    I know I'm not the only one who knows this is true without needing Apple to hold my hand and tell me so. This is Apple's baby and VZW doesn't call the shots on this device.
    03-12-2011 06:20 PM
  15. ardoreal's Avatar
    Let me repeat....VZW has ZERO input on iPhone updates and their release. Do I need to make that my signature? lol I am not new to the iPhone and there has never been an update released based on a carrier giving the go ahead. In summary, VZW has NOTHING to do with the ViP4 not getting 4.3

    I know I'm not the only one who knows this is true without needing Apple to hold my hand and tell me so. This is Apple's baby and VZW doesn't call the shots on this device.
    I know you're trying to be abundantly clear and all, but unless you are quoting an Apple employee who went on record, I don't believe you. It's ok too. I don't hate your mother or think Jews are evil or anything like that. I just don't believe you without reliable information to go on that's beyond conjecture you can believe what you believe, and I can have my beliefs. In the end, I know that someday my iPhone will get 4.3 and quite possibly some future revision that rocks too. In the meantime, I have the best phone available on VZW


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    03-12-2011 06:25 PM
  16. cp9102's Avatar
    I honestly don't even know why this is even still being discussed. I think that it's been made quite obvious already that it's unknown when VZW will get a 4.3 update OR even if it will happen at all. Game, Set, Match....thread should be closed. You can only beat a dead horse for so long and i think this one is already plenty tenderized.
    03-12-2011 07:05 PM
  17. epphllps's Avatar
    I know you're trying to be abundantly clear and all, but unless you are quoting an Apple employee who went on record, I don't believe you. It's ok too. I don't hate your mother or think Jews are evil or anything like that. I just don't believe you without reliable information to go on that's beyond conjecture you can believe what you believe, and I can have my beliefs. In the end, I know that someday my iPhone will get 4.3 and quite possibly some future revision that rocks too. In the meantime, I have the best phone available on VZW


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    Haha. Good reply . But still...VZW has ZERO input. I'm not sure how I can quote a conversation with Apple tech support but here goes, "No, Verizon does not dictate our update release schedule. Updates will work the exact same way as when you owned your AT&T iPhone, released when Apple makes them available to the public."

    That's just a short summary from a conversation back in mid February when I couldn't setup my visual voicemail and VZW was ZERO help. You may or may not choose to believe me but I have no reason to lie and want you to feel at ease that VZW has not taken or iOS update hostage. We are in the "great" hands of Apple.
    03-12-2011 08:58 PM
  18. epphllps's Avatar
    I honestly don't even know why this is even still being discussed. I think that it's been made quite obvious already that it's unknown when VZW will get a 4.3 update OR even if it will happen at all. Game, Set, Match....thread should be closed. You can only beat a dead horse for so long and i think this one is already plenty tenderized.
    Don't knock beating a dead horse until you have tried it!! It's addictive!
    03-12-2011 09:00 PM
  19. ardoreal's Avatar
    Haha. Good reply . But still...VZW has ZERO input. I'm not sure how I can quote a conversation with Apple tech support but here goes, "No, Verizon does not dictate our update release schedule. Updates will work the exact same way as when you owned your AT&T iPhone, released when Apple makes them available to the public."

    That's just a short summary from a conversation back in mid February when I couldn't setup my visual voicemail and VZW was ZERO help. You may or may not choose to believe me but I have no reason to lie and want you to feel at ease that VZW has not taken or iOS update hostage. We are in the "great" hands of Apple.
    lol, I didn't accuse you of lying, I just didn't know that Apple was disclosing any info about that process. If a tech support is telling you that, I can go off of that. That's a whole lot different than people just presuming given the delay. I was just seeing the plausibility of VZW holding it up because of how much they have the Droid updates under their little "process". Heck, Motorola is still trying to get Gingerbread out for the Droid 2/X since December.

    Tech support folks at Apple are also quite a bit different than most others from my experience. If there is something they aren't sure if they can comment about they usually have a pretty tight lip. If that one was willing to tell you that, it's quite likely accurate.
    03-13-2011 12:21 AM
  20. CalifJewls's Avatar
    Android software updates??? What's that?? Android doesn't update software, I swear they just release a new phone instead...LOL
    03-13-2011 01:41 AM
  21. Icyhot1966's Avatar
    Android? What's Android?? LOL...I will never go back to the "dark side". Too many inequities for me...
    03-13-2011 01:51 AM
  22. munchkinsdad's Avatar
    C'mon people! Don't you know AT&T users are the Guinea Pigs? After they get all the bugs fixed...THEN it will be released to us in perfect heavenly iOS bliss!
    03-13-2011 06:54 AM
  23. klaudiiia's Avatar
    C'mon people! Don't you know AT&T users are the Guinea Pigs? After they get all the bugs fixed...THEN it will be released to us in perfect heavenly iOS bliss!
    I like the way you think!
    03-13-2011 09:22 AM
  24. ardoreal's Avatar
    Android software updates??? What's that?? Android doesn't update software, I swear they just release a new phone instead...LOL
    Pretty much. The only android phones that reliably get updates are the nexus phones. Occasionally the Droids.

    What really sucks though is that the android version bumps deliver huge performance improvements, battery savings, major stuff that greatly enhance the phones.....but you get to wait until Motorola lifts their leg and pees over all of it and you end up with the Blur interface stacked ontop ruining much of the good Google tries to do.


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    03-13-2011 10:26 AM
  25. epphllps's Avatar
    pretty much. The only android phones that reliably get updates are the nexus phones. Occasionally the droids.

    What really sucks though is that the android version bumps deliver huge performance improvements, battery savings, major stuff that greatly enhance the phones.....but you get to wait until motorola lifts their leg and pees over all of it and you end up with the blur interface stacked ontop ruining much of the good google tries to do.


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    +10000000000
    03-13-2011 11:14 AM
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