1. alanmushnick's Avatar
    I am really interested in hearing from those of you that had Treos and switched to the iPhone.
    What do you think?

    Alan
    08-09-2007 06:56 AM
  2. cmaier's Avatar
    I am really interested in hearing from those of you that had Treos and switched to the iPhone.
    What do you think?

    Alan
    I switched from Treo 650. Had the iphone for about a month now.

    Overall, not regretting it.

    I'm finding I'm using the web a LOT. A ton more than I did on the treo. Speed on edge is okay (seems better than on my sprint treo) but I do find wifi to be freely available in most places I happen to be (I tend not to websurf while driving :-)

    I used keysuite on palm for calendar and contacts. Fewer features in the native iphone apps, but I'm not really missing very many.

    One annoyance is not having an LED and Butler to tell me when I miss calls, etc. You get used to flipping on the screen to check, but integrating an LED, perhaps behind the speaker hole, would have been nice.

    The SMS app is about equivalent to treo. The screen is gorgeous. Unbelievable unless you actually are holding one in your hand and you see it yourself. Daylight viewing is fine.

    Mail app is a downgrade from chatter. Hopefully they improve it, and at least add a "all mailboxes together" view.
    08-09-2007 01:18 PM
  3. nmprofessional's Avatar
    I agree with cmaier on all points.

    I also have had my iPhone for about a month now. I am coming from a Treo 700p on Sprint (10 year SprintPCS customer).

    I love the iPod software in it. It just plain works. SMS is good and similar to Treo. Email doesn't crash like Versamail did for me. Calendar takes getting used to, you get just two alarms for each appointment - but I am now used to it.

    I mostly miss SplashID for login ID(s). I bought a good quality USB Flash drive and just placed it on my keychain with login software. I don't relish the idea of having my login on a s server somewhere.

    As a phone I have a better signal than Sprint and the iPhone has better sound quality for me.

    Dave
    08-09-2007 03:24 PM
  4. cmaier's Avatar
    I guess I should comment on the phone, too.

    Visual voicemail is a revelation. I used to dread checking my voicemail, having to listen to a few seconds of each message to figure out if i cared, trying to remember what button to push to rewind, etc. Once you do visual voicemail, any other voicemail feels like the stoneages.

    I am finding AT&T vs. sprint to be a mixed bag, coverage-wise. Although my house is shown on at&t coverage maps as being in a bad signal area, i generally get a good signal - however, even when it's showing four bars, it randomly drops calls. My wife's iphone does this as well, so it's likely not an issue with a bad phone.

    Although people complain about volume, the earpiece volume sounds fine to me. The speakerphone is too quiet for my tastes, but about the same as my treo 650.

    The bluetooth volume is great (imho).

    It also deals with bluetooth much more smoothly than does my treo 650.

    I find dialing to be fast and easy - i do wish they'd redo favorites to allow favorites to park on the "home" screen, or to allow images next to favorites on the favorites list, etc.

    A note on wifi-edge: the way the phone deals with wi-fi hotspot detection is very very well done. This phone makes a heck of a wi-fi snooper. And it switches seemlessly back and forth between wifi and edge without bugging you (as long as it recognizes the wifi as being one you've been on before). Handles wpa w/o a problem.

    Document viewing: it can display excel and word docs, as well as pdfs. Not powerpoint, apparently (they need to get on that!)

    With pdfs, it displays them very well, and the interface makes it very easy to zoom and pan around. I often read pdfs on my phone instead of my crappy work laptop, as the phone navigates much more quickly. I've noticed only 2 pdf issues:

    1) sometimes it is missing some of the layers. for example, someone sent me a floorplan with annotations on it, and the annotations were missing

    2) it doesn't seem to always like non-adobe-created pdfs (i'm looking at you PDF Converter Pro. Avoid that thing. Trust me).

    Word docs also display fine.

    With excel docs, i've noticed formatting glitches sometimes, but nothing too major.

    I never edited documents on my treo (despite having forked over a lot of $$ for documents-to-go), so I don't miss that.

    If I could have one wish, I think it would be for a slingplayer client....
    08-09-2007 03:44 PM
  5. zrs70's Avatar
    The problem with wifi:

    When I'm in a wifi area, but one that requires log in (t-mobile), and I don't want to log in.... I have to do a cumbersome walk around.
    08-09-2007 05:07 PM
  6. cmaier's Avatar
    How come? Unless you once tell it to log in, it won't force you to subsequently log in. If you logged in once (say, by mistake) and want to prevent it being logged in automatically in the future, click on it under settings and choose "forget this network."

    Or are you complaining about having to dismiss the pop-up? If so, turn off "ask to join networks" in wi-fi networks in settings.
    08-09-2007 05:31 PM
  7. Mike Overbo's Avatar
    My treo history: I used a 600, 650, 680, and mucked around with a 750 but couldn't deal with the WM interface as it currently stands.

    - there are still a lot of keypresses for some things. checking different mail accounts, I'm looking at you.
    - I love having screen instead of keyboard.
    - 320x480 is great for mobile web
    - full web is the zillion dollar feature.
    - it needs an SDK for real apps
    - or, it needs user-programmable widgets that work in boonies mode.
    - glass doesn't scratch like plastic does.

    I love wi-fi but miss parts of the mail client; I have a hard time getting google pop mail synched between devices: if the iPhone picks up a message, the desktop mail client will never see it again. Lack of a to-do list and synched notes apps are surprising; I think we'll see these come as a paired update with OSX 10.5 Leopard.

    We're still in the early days of the platform; I think development in the iphone will actually pick up speed now that they've got them in people's hands. if you don't think the iphone does what you need yet, give it a few months and check back; the iPhone operating system is already evolving faster than most other mobile OSes.
    08-09-2007 06:09 PM
  8. oalvarez's Avatar
    yep, must agree with most all of the above; it's much better alternrative to a Treo given my needs. i've owned and used most all of the Treos (see below) in both WM and Palm os. about the only thing i miss is the fact that i can't install a Goodlink type application (or use BES) for my for my business email needs. having said that, i don't mind whatsoever owning the iPhone alongside of the Blackberry Pearl. if the iPhone's mail app was a little bit more robust it could be the perfect device for me (i like em slim and not bulky).

    again, as it has been said many times, i think the user and internet experience blow away most all other devices i've ever owned. and i'm sure they're working on ways of making the entire device even better.

    cheers
    08-09-2007 07:33 PM
  9. byronchurch's Avatar
    Coming from a 680 - 650 to the i Phone definitely has it's +'s & -'s What I miss the most is DateBk There's no option to see or assignee to your different calendars no colors , icons basically a stone age calendar ! (Actually I still sync my treo now and then to keep the calendar up. ) That and no search engine ! It's so ridicules for apple not opening it up for 3rd party software . No turning back now though I'm very optimistic and iSmitten ! It's amazing the sacrifices one will make for a pretty face !
    08-10-2007 12:53 PM
  10. Dunc's Avatar
    I had a 300, 600, 650 and an Arctic 680. By the time the iPhone surfaced I was pretty disappointed with Palm as a whole. The iPhone is a wonderful device. I used to dread (and avoid at all costs) using Blazer to find anything on the net. But I love using Safari on the iPhone - surfing is a pleasure. The device hasn't crashed once since I got it the day they came out - can anyone say that about any Palm Treo device? I thought not. My one complaint is mail - it is functional, nice... But, for anyone who has used Chatter in the past there is no comparison. I hope that Mark gets an iPhone and starts working on bringing his legendary app to this platform!

    Dunc
    08-13-2007 09:05 AM
  11. cmaier's Avatar
    I had a 300, 600, 650 and an Arctic 680. By the time the iPhone surfaced I was pretty disappointed with Palm as a whole. The iPhone is a wonderful device. I used to dread (and avoid at all costs) using Blazer to find anything on the net. But I love using Safari on the iPhone - surfing is a pleasure. The device hasn't crashed once since I got it the day they came out - can anyone say that about any Palm Treo device? I thought not. My one complaint is mail - it is functional, nice... But, for anyone who has used Chatter in the past there is no comparison. I hope that Mark gets an iPhone and starts working on bringing his legendary app to this platform!

    Dunc
    mark is now a palm employee so don't count on it
    08-13-2007 09:39 AM
  12. Dunc's Avatar
    I know that Chattermail was bought by Palm - I hope that Marc made out like a bandit! He should have, Chattermail is / was by far the best mail app for the Treo. He's come out of retirement before. I hope that he'll stumble across an iPhone at some point and be inspired to do it again.

    Dunc
    08-13-2007 12:09 PM
  13. AnteL0pe's Avatar
    It wouldnt take a whole lot for Apple to make the iPhone mail app a whole lot better.
    08-13-2007 12:09 PM
  14. Supes2000's Avatar
    I am going to eat a lot of crow here, but I am the "PROUD" owner of an iPhone.

    Some of you may have read my thread: Is the iPhone a Gold Brick?" on Treocentral. But after my wife broke down and bought one, and in addition to a number of web 2.0 apps that have sprung up on the market, I too am a convert.

    I have had no issues with the speed of EDGE. I am on a WIFI network 50% of the time, this is when I use the "full" browser, and when on EDGE, I use google mobile to "strip down" the page if I am in a hurry.

    I have found a number of online work-arounds for apps that I use daily like tasks for example.

    These include online task lists via
    rememberthemilk.com
    toodledo.com

    And a number of games via macworld, and few others.

    I love this phone, the best I have ever owned, and it's only going to get better.
    08-13-2007 12:24 PM
  15. Vander's Avatar
    I too am loving my iphone...Ive always been a treo fan/user but as my issues with my treo continued and with no solutions from palm, I felt that the phone was interfering with my productivity both at work and just in general.

    1. The iphone works and works well.
    2. It syncs every time...I was lucky to sync my treo but only after 3 or 4 tries.
    3. as mentioned already, I love visual voicemail, it is so much more efficient, I only wish I had a similar product at work, I hate having to listen to ten emails only to erase the first nine to get the most important of them. Im saving so much more time not listening to useless, unimportant messages.
    4. The web is great, wifi is an amazing experience and as also mentioned, Im using that feature 10 times more often then on my treo, the web on the treo is almost painfull, I only used it in case of dire situations, now I find myself browsing the net almost whereever and whenever I want.
    4. I love Utube...I never much cared about it before, but I love to watch the latest, funiest videos its a blast!

    so in the end, the iphone rocks!
    08-15-2007 01:55 AM
  16. Supes2000's Avatar
    I too am loving my iphone...Ive always been a treo fan/user but as my issues with my treo continued and with no solutions from palm, I felt that the phone was interfering with my productivity both at work and just in general.

    1. The iphone works and works well.
    2. It syncs every time...I was lucky to sync my treo but only after 3 or 4 tries.
    3. as mentioned already, I love visual voicemail, it is so much more efficient, I only wish I had a similar product at work, I hate having to listen to ten emails only to erase the first nine to get the most important of them. Im saving so much more time not listening to useless, unimportant messages.
    4. The web is great, wifi is an amazing experience and as also mentioned, Im using that feature 10 times more often then on my treo, the web on the treo is almost painfull, I only used it in case of dire situations, now I find myself browsing the net almost whereever and whenever I want.
    4. I love Utube...I never much cared about it before, but I love to watch the latest, funiest videos its a blast!

    so in the end, the iphone rocks!
    Here, here!!! I could not agree more. I too use the web more than ever before. Have any you guys been to iphonepov.com and watched the speed comparsion videos between the Treos and the Iphone...Jawdropping!

    Web 2.0 apps are the future for handheld platfoms. Knowling what I now know about the iPhone, I'd pay twice the price.
    08-15-2007 07:06 PM
  17. jchun642's Avatar
    The one thing that really bugs me about the iPhone is the lack of a search feature. Particularly in the contacts list. While the scrolling is really cool, it gets difficult to find a contact when you have a long list. I have about 1500 contacts. It was much easier on the Treo when I could type in their first initial, then last name.

    For some reason, the iPhone has this search feature when looking up names in the SMS and email client but not in the contact list.
    08-15-2007 08:28 PM
  18. Supes2000's Avatar
    While I agree this could be usefull, I have no issues without either. Are you aware of feature that allows you to jumps to a given letter by using your finger and dragging over the alphabet on the right of the contact list?

    In my experience, it takes no longer to "jump to a letter" then flick your way to the name. Just a thought.
    08-16-2007 01:49 PM
  19. RadMonkeyX's Avatar
    i made the jump over to the iphone and i am not looking back. i did not use my 750 for work, it is just a fun phone for me. the iphone does everything i need it to. sure i wish i could assign music ringtones and receive pic text but i am ok. the iphone is so user friendly. the keyboard does take some gettting use. i thought i would add my 2 cents
    08-21-2007 10:18 AM
  20. SAKozicki's Avatar
    I have been through the 650 and the 680. Both developed stability issues and had trouble with bluetooth devices. The IPhone just plain works. It does not freeze up or reset at an inopportune moment. Bluetooth works great, loud and instantaneous. I justified the cost to myself by counting how many potential clients I lost in one week because of my Treo resetting during an incoming call. Web works faster, eventhough i'm supposedly on the same EDGE network. I was most worried about the calendar program. I've found that I love the one on the Iphone because it doesn't waste space, and shows more appointments for the week. I wish it showed a "to do" list, but I've found that I don't miss it that much, since I carry a Franklin organizer as a backup (I'm required to have a calendar backup system by my malpracitce insurance carrier). The way the screen scrolls with your finger is just amazing. When you slide your finger across the screen, it rolls kind of like a slot machine. I am amazed they can do that electronically. I do not miss the keys on a Treo at all. I would not get the 4 gig version, I put 4 gig on my 8 gig one without trying very hard.
    08-21-2007 04:55 PM
  21. Supes2000's Avatar
    I have been through the 650 and the 680. Both developed stability issues and had trouble with bluetooth devices. The IPhone just plain works. It does not freeze up or reset at an inopportune moment. Bluetooth works great, loud and instantaneous. I justified the cost to myself by counting how many potential clients I lost in one week because of my Treo resetting during an incoming call. Web works faster, eventhough i'm supposedly on the same EDGE network. I was most worried about the calendar program. I've found that I love the one on the Iphone because it doesn't waste space, and shows more appointments for the week. I wish it showed a "to do" list, but I've found that I don't miss it that much, since I carry a Franklin organizer as a backup (I'm required to have a calendar backup system by my malpracitce insurance carrier). The way the screen scrolls with your finger is just amazing. When you slide your finger across the screen, it rolls kind of like a slot machine. I am amazed they can do that electronically. I do not miss the keys on a Treo at all. I would not get the 4 gig version, I put 4 gig on my 8 gig one without trying very hard.

    I agree 100% regarding the speed issue. Coming off of Sprints Vision service, I have EDGE to be much faster, and the signal strength to be far superior.


    SAKozicki as for the To Do ,list, try toodledo.com. This is a secure web site that is slimmed down for the iPhone and is abn online tasklist that will do all that the Treo does and more, and another option is rememberthemilk.com.
    08-22-2007 05:43 PM
  22. nmprofessional's Avatar
    supes2000,

    Thanks for the heads up about www.toodledo.com "slim" version. I did not realize it would SMS to my iPhone if I attached a Due Date to the item. I must have missed that the first time I took it for a spin.

    Thanks,
    Dave
    08-25-2007 12:04 PM
  23. Supes2000's Avatar
    supes2000,

    Thanks for the heads up about www.toodledo.com "slim" version. I did not realize it would SMS to my iPhone if I attached a Due Date to the item. I must have missed that the first time I took it for a spin.

    Thanks,
    Dave
    Your welcome, this is by far the best list site I have found. Tada list is also good, but for my needs toodledo is the best. Tadalist.com is good for shopping lists etc.
    08-27-2007 04:40 PM
  24. neuronbob's Avatar
    My 15-month old 700p's keyboard just died. I had no major issues with it other than Palm's poor support of those who actually had problems. I paid $50 to get a replacement and should be receiving it shortly.

    If I get a 700p with the MR and it has network problems, I plan to become a two-device person again. I plan to purchase an iPhone, switch to AT&T, and charge up my old Tungsten C to use for my Palm database software. The T|C still works after three years using Treos!

    I hate to abandon Palm, but the iPhone is simply a more elegant solution.
    08-28-2007 10:25 PM
  25. Playberry1010's Avatar
    My Treo history is common with a lot of others 600, 650, 680. They've been pretty stable with the usual 3rd party software conflicts on occasion. It was never ongoing, but on a few occasions having to deal with freezes on the 680 was a major annoyance since the reset is battery removal.The 680 was also the first one that I had to get replaced because the battery life was so beyond the pale. The replacement unit was better, but not outrageously so. I have no battery life complaints with the iPhone. I like the touchscreen so much better. I wouldn't mind a to-do list added to the calendar. But the web browsing is just so much better. The interface is so easy. At least for me, I find it much less cumbersome to access things-it's smooth.
    09-02-2007 10:43 AM
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