1. braj's Avatar
    Anyone care to review the calendar app? Is there OTA syncing with iCal or anything like that? How are tasks handled? Is there any sort of memo app available?
    07-03-2007 09:05 PM
  2. oalvarez's Avatar
    do you really care?

    "is there any sort of memo app" you ask.......i'd be beyond surprised if you didn't know what applications came pre-loaded on the device......i'd be even more surprised if you tried to convince us that you didn't know that you couldn't load 3rd party apps onto the device.

    so transparent and so getting old.....but hey, just to help you out, some bullet points pertaining to the calendar function found on the net:



    Looks like there is a Day / Week / Month view buttons
    There is a today button
    The calendar uses a dot to represent an event in the day of the month
    A plus button would be for adding events
    Shows the time at the top of the screen
    Indicates the current month in highlighted blue
    Shows events for that day below calendar view with time
    07-03-2007 09:21 PM
  3. braj's Avatar
    oalvarez, wtf is your problem anyway?

    Any other rational person: It's a simple question and I haven't seen much about the calendar app yet. Do you like it? How well does it work? Is it basically 'iCal' on the handheld, or is it different? Does it sync seamlessly thru iTunes with iCal? Does it do OTA syncing at all? What are all the details? What do you like, what don't you like? You know, a review?
    07-03-2007 09:38 PM
  4. MacUser's Avatar
    Well, I can't get into all those questions, but here are some comments.

    It has spin dials that you use to choose the day, hour, and minute when making an event. It's pretty cool.

    On the down side, it doesn't keep your different iCals different--with categories Hopefully, it'll be something that will be updated.

    There is no Week view, but the list view is sweet as you can keep flicking downward to see all the upcoming events. The Month view is cool also because you can tap a date and then see the events for the day under the calendar. If there are more events than can be viewed at one time, you flick downward and see the rest. Pretty nice "Month At A Glance"-esque.

    It syncs all the iCals with no problem. You choose which iCal category you want the iPhone events to go into as a setting.

    That's about it.
    07-03-2007 10:32 PM
  5. braj's Avatar
    Well, I can't get into all those questions, but here are some comments.

    It has spin dials that you use to choose the day, hour, and minute when making an event. It's pretty cool.

    On the down side, it doesn't keep your different iCals different--with categories Hopefully, it'll be something that will be updated.

    There is no Week view, but the list view is sweet as you can keep flicking downward to see all the upcoming events. The Month view is cool also because you can tap a date and then see the events for the day under the calendar. If there are more events than can be viewed at one time, you flick downward and see the rest. Pretty nice "Month At A Glance"-esque.

    It syncs all the iCals with no problem. You choose which iCal category you want the iPhone events to go into as a setting.

    That's about it.
    Sounds pretty limited Sure would be nice to have Agendus on the iPhone (without the crashes of course).
    07-03-2007 10:42 PM
  6. oalvarez's Avatar
    Braj, this is everyone's problem.....you're asking about calendar and memo functionality having posted this over a day ago? transparent as i said.

    [QUOTE]
    In SF I'm seeing connection to EDGE almost nil. I can't get web pages to open and barely can get an email through Chatter with constant polling. I just wanted to see how widespread this is and if you guys on iPhones are having similar issues.
    07-03-2007 11:08 PM
  7. braj's Avatar
    Braj, this is everyone's problem.....you're asking about calendar and memo functionality having posted this over a day ago? transparent as i said.
    What the heck are you talking about?
    07-04-2007 12:24 AM
  8. CountBuggula's Avatar
    Braj, this is everyone's problem.....you're asking about calendar and memo functionality having posted this over a day ago? transparent as i said.
    I personally don't see the connection. I think the only one with a problem here is you.

    MacUser, thanks for the nice response. One of his questions you didn't touch on was notes - can you assign notes to a calendar event? (It almost seems silly to ask, but better to know for sure)
    07-04-2007 12:28 AM
  9. oalvarez's Avatar
    now i see the dis-connect (chattermail obviously not on an iPhone). i apoligize as i am in the wrong.

    regards
    07-04-2007 12:40 AM
  10. braj's Avatar
    now i see the dis-connect (chattermail obviously not on an iPhone). i apoligize as i am in the wrong.

    regards
    Quit looking for ghosts and they will go away. Thanks for the apology, not everyone online can do that.
    07-04-2007 12:44 AM
  11. SAKozicki's Avatar
    Thanks for the calendar inquiry, Braj. I, too, am curious about how good/useful the calendar function is on the IPhone, since the robust calendar function is a very important part of my Treo 680 that I don't want to give up by swithching to the IPhone. Can contacts be linked to appointments? Will the Outlook to do lists sync to the calendar and appear on the first screen that pops up when you push the calendar icon? Apple spent a whole lot of time talking about the multimedia functions of this phone, but not a whole lot of the PDA functions.
    07-06-2007 03:53 PM
  12. cmaier's Avatar
    I believe there is no syncing of to-do, and, in fact, no to-do support at all. I also think there is no linking at this point.
    07-06-2007 03:57 PM
  13. braj's Avatar
    This would be another deal-breaker for me I was really hoping the calendar would have OTA syncing, todos and memos. I use Agendus on Palm and though I don't necessarily need all that functionality, frankly my old SE phone was a more effective organizer than the iPhone (it even has copy/paste ) Why would they make it that spartan?

    Could you imagine the beautiful job that could be done on the iPhone with a good PIM? Please Apple, either make something reasonable or let another developer do it for you.

    I guess my hope from Apple if they never open it to 3rd party devs is to have a new iPod with the screen of the iPhone, Safari, Wifi and BT. Then I'd happily use my Treo for work and all the nifty MM stuff on the iPod.
    07-06-2007 04:53 PM
  14. cmaier's Avatar
    I use keysuite on palm (palm's built-in stuff is pretty weak, imho). Luckily i don't use very much of the functionality (beyond the additional contact fields and calendar views), so I'm hoping the iphone stuff will suffice for now. Hopefully they'll either pump it up or allow third-party developers to do so.
    07-06-2007 05:03 PM
  15. braj's Avatar
    I use keysuite on palm (palm's built-in stuff is pretty weak, imho). Luckily i don't use very much of the functionality (beyond the additional contact fields and calendar views), so I'm hoping the iphone stuff will suffice for now. Hopefully they'll either pump it up or allow third-party developers to do so.
    Yeah, I'm used to Agendus logging when I've called a contact, associating contacts to meetings, daily journal, actually most of the functionality gets used. If Apple ever opens up to 3rd party apps I'll definitely get an iPhone because I know the apps would come. I have more faith that Apple will fix what is 'wrong' (from my perspective of course) with the iPhone than Palm will fix what is wrong with the Treo. Time will tell. It really hinges on 3rd party support though.
    07-06-2007 05:51 PM
  16. cmaier's Avatar
    One thing to remember is that all the apple employees will have iphones. I know some of those guys, and they aren't dummies; they're going to be frustrated with the current state of some of the apps, just like us. So even if they never open up the SDK fully, you can bet we'll see improvements.

    (Plus, I expect that just like we can download third-party games for ipod from itunes, we'll be able to download third-party apps. I suspect they'll make deals with some select group of software publishers rather than opening up the API fully. Which makes me sad, because I love hacking.)
    07-06-2007 05:55 PM
  17. braj's Avatar
    Yeah, it's usually a single guy in his garage that comes up with the truly innovative stuff. Limiting it to well-established vendors will give us high prices and limited innovation.
    07-06-2007 05:58 PM
  18. Merlyn_3D's Avatar
    You know...the most disappointing thing about the iphone calendar is that the notification is not nearly loud enough and it only plays once. No repeating, no snooze, no nothing, just one notification and if you miss it you're screwed. What's the point of putting an appointment with a reminder in your calendar if it doesn't remind you?
    07-06-2007 11:46 PM
  19. braj's Avatar
    You know...the most disappointing thing about the iphone calendar is that the notification is not nearly loud enough and it only plays once. No repeating, no snooze, no nothing, just one notification and if you miss it you're screwed. What's the point of putting an appointment with a reminder in your calendar if it doesn't remind you?
    And people can live with that? I think not.C'mon Apple.
    07-06-2007 11:49 PM
  20. Pearl_Diva's Avatar
    I agree, that's a drawback for me!!!

    But you're sure the no-repeat problem can't be fixed in settings, Merlyn?
    07-07-2007 06:01 AM
  21. Merlyn_3D's Avatar
    I agree, that's a drawback for me!!!

    But you're sure the no-repeat problem can't be fixed in settings, Merlyn?
    Oh believe me....I've looked. I think I'm actually going to return to my treo 750. As much as I love the UI on this phone, it feels very immature and doesn't seem to have the polish (feature-wise) that other smartphones do. I look forward to the second gen though, hopefully that will include 3G as well.
    07-07-2007 06:15 AM
  22. MacUser's Avatar
    MacUser, thanks for the nice response. One of his questions you didn't touch on was notes - can you assign notes to a calendar event? (It almost seems silly to ask, but better to know for sure)
    You're welcome. Yeah, you can assign notes to an event..it's at the bottom of the Event screen and it's called "Notes". I'm note sure about syncing, I haven't tried yet.
    07-07-2007 08:44 AM
  23. MacUser's Avatar
    You know...the most disappointing thing about the iphone calendar is that the notification is not nearly loud enough and it only plays once. No repeating, no snooze, no nothing, just one notification and if you miss it you're screwed. What's the point of putting an appointment with a reminder in your calendar if it doesn't remind you?
    That's not entirely true. You can set TWO reminders for the same event so you do get two notifications--Alert & Second Alert. True, it would be nice to have a snooze feature like they have on the Alarm Clock app.
    07-07-2007 08:52 AM
  24. AnteL0pe's Avatar
    The second alert is nice, but i do miss the repeated alerts and having a list of alerts that have passed. I'm quickly learning to just look at my calendar for that purpose though.
    07-07-2007 01:33 PM
  25. cmaier's Avatar
    I guess there's no external LED or anything to indicate that an alert has happened? I'll miss butler.
    07-07-2007 01:41 PM
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