1. melwan's Avatar
    When I delete it, it deletes all my contacts associated with my gmail account as well. Is there a step I'm missing to transfer the contacts to my device?
    When you remove the Exchange account, it should prompt you if you want to delete the data on the phone or keep it.

    If it's not displaying this prompt (which is weird), try not deleting the exchange account, but rather just disable the contacts sync from settings for that exchange account. See if you get that prompt now.

    I tried this process back in one of the earlier betas and it worked as I listed the instructions. Not sure if Apple changed something in the final release.
    10-15-2011 05:17 AM
  2. melwan's Avatar
    What happens if I want to keep syncing with google for my contacts? I don't want to use icloud for this. What is the best way to go about this without creating duplicate contacts?
    If you don't use iCloud at all, then just ignore this whole thread and setup your Gmail account using Exchange (Settings> Mail, Calendars, Contacts> Add New Account> Exchange). It's the only way to sync Gmail contacts over the air. You cannot use "Gmail" instead of Exchange for contacts.

    On the other hand, if you use iCloud for some services and don't want to use with Contacts, then go to Settings > iCloud > toggle Contacts "off". That way iCloud won't be use for contacts sync. You should still follow the above instructions (in the first paragraph) to setup Goole contacts sync separately.

    Hope this helps.
    10-15-2011 05:21 AM
  3. melwan's Avatar
    And what about those that use Windows like me?
    Use the iOS method. Or google instructions to do the same thing using Outlook.
    10-15-2011 05:30 AM
  4. rstark18's Avatar
    When deleteing or turning off exchange contacts they are ALWAYS removed without the option of keeping them. You only get that prompt on non exchange accounts.
    10-15-2011 05:42 AM
  5. gizbug's Avatar
    Why would you want to move your google contacts/mail to icloud? Why not keep google, and the auto sync? I know I love updating my contacts, and having it sync automatically with gmail/the web.
    10-15-2011 09:23 AM
  6. cardfan's Avatar
    Why would you want to move your google contacts/mail to icloud? Why not keep google, and the auto sync? I know I love updating my contacts, and having it sync automatically with gmail/the web.
    That's a good question. If there's some key benefits, maybe someone can list them. I do know google messes up my contacts a lot. There's only 5GB in an icloud account.

    The key thing that i liked about gmail in the past is the search and large amount of free storage.

    I think i'll spend the weekend converting to icloud and not using google and cleaning up things. But i'll use my gmail for email only during the transition.
    10-15-2011 10:54 AM
  7. zragone's Avatar
    Why would you want to move your google contacts/mail to icloud? Why not keep google, and the auto sync? I know I love updating my contacts, and having it sync automatically with gmail/the web.
    So if you have a 4S you can put in relationships that you can use with Siri.

    With Google Contacts you're limited to spouse, manager, and assistant. If its an iCloud contact you have a whole host you can use, including custom.

    Unfortunately when I go to turn off the contacts in exchange or turn off the exchange all together it prompts me to either remove it or cancel...not keep it.
    10-19-2011 02:18 PM
  8. rstark18's Avatar
    That's a good question. If there's some key benefits, maybe someone can list them. I do know google messes up my contacts a lot. There's only 5GB in an icloud account.

    The key thing that i liked about gmail in the past is the search and large amount of free storage.

    I think i'll spend the weekend converting to icloud and not using google and cleaning up things. But i'll use my gmail for email only during the transition.
    So you're going to stop using Gmail? I REALLY like Gmail as an email service but that also forces me to use their contacts and calendar because of the tight integration between the three. That is the reason I would like a cross platform sync of some sort.
    10-19-2011 02:39 PM
  9. rstark18's Avatar
    Okay, here is my solution to this that works really well for me. Here is what I want:
    Full field labels from iCloud. (usually Google changes email fields to Other)
    Full res pics for incoming calls.
    If Google Contacts offered these then I wouldn't bother with iCloud.
    So what I did was:
    Import my Google contacts into iCloud. (see previous post in this thread).
    I already had Google Exchange set up and running.
    Turn on iCloud Contacts on iPhone.
    iOS5 automatically links exact names without showing them as duplicates.
    Under All Contacts do any editing you want (set pic, label fields, etc.)
    That will update both iCloud AND Google.
    iOS5 is smart enough to use iCloud Contact info first so you get all the benefit of iCloud but any updates also get pushed to Google Contacts.
    I've been using it for the last few hours and so no drawbacks.
    I think this will work for the majority out there that have been sealing with this issue.
    10-19-2011 03:37 PM
  10. macmixing's Avatar
    surely there is an easy way to do this?
    Here hope this video helps! I got a ton of tutorials my channel!

    Google Contacts to iCloud
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-dOR4pPJU


    Last edited by macmixing; 10-20-2011 at 10:24 AM.
    10-20-2011 10:21 AM
  11. rstark18's Avatar
    Just a note on my high-res pictures, they're not showing up in contacts anymore with iCloud linked contacts.
    10-20-2011 03:11 PM
  12. Tink.Deb's Avatar
    It all seems confusing but the advantage that I can see is: if I stay and intend to upgrade to 4s it is the best advantage to change from google to iCloud now. So, the task will begin and hopefully go smoothly since I am a total newbie.
    10-20-2011 03:35 PM
  13. redneck86's Avatar
    I was wanting to sync my contacts from the cloud to Thunderbird(Mozilla mail client) But I dont think
    Apple recognizes the thunderbird client as a outlook express alternative.

    Do yall know if it does use it or am I just setting it up wrong.
    10-20-2011 06:29 PM
  14. SnapThrow's Avatar
    OK here is what I did with a couple changes in { }

    (1) {Delete all contacts in iCloud to start fresh}
    (2) {turned off contacts in Gmail Exchange settings and contacts are deleted off iPhone}
    (3) Plug iPhone into iTunes and sync contacts with gmail using your gmail login ID in contacts menu. This gets the contacts {back} onto your phone.
    (4) Uncheck the sync contacts with gmail in iTunes, contacts will still be there.
    (5) Turn on iCloud contacts in settings and contacts will sync with iCloud.
    Now my Gmail contacts are duplicated in iCloud. But now what I want is my Gmail and iCloud contacts to sync ideally in the cloud -- is this possible? Even if it is via iTunes or on the iPhone it would be fine.

    Next I want to duplicate my Gmails calendars in the iCloud calendar app and then keep them in sync.
    10-26-2011 12:57 PM
  15. thebignewt#IM's Avatar
    Good thread. I see 2 ways to do this synch: one is to export the Google contacts to a vCard and then open iCloud-Contacts and drag the vCard file in there. The other is to connect the iPhone to iTunes, and put the Google contacts on the phone from there, then iCloud grabs the contacts off the phone. Am I seeing this right, that there are 2 ways to skin the cat?
    10-31-2011 03:47 PM
  16. biggjoe's Avatar
    Hmmm...I wonder if it's meant to be a true bi-directional sync feature??
    11-02-2011 07:53 PM
  17. DANNCAS's Avatar
    I too dont like gmail. I use it for only junk mail. I do use Yahoo more. But I dont like either when they try to add anyone i evr had contact with to my contact like. I like my outlook it only has who I want and doesnt anoy me. I don't 200 plus contacts
    11-10-2011 08:09 AM
  18. joanthansblog's Avatar
    I had my google contacts synced to lion and to ios.
    all i did was to enable icloud sync in lion and in ios.
    then all my contacts appeared in icloud.
    if i turn off google now and only have icloud sync enabled then it works exactly the same as if i turn off icloud and only have google.
    i have them both on, just incase
    11-26-2011 01:14 PM
  19. 9thWonder's Avatar
    my only solution was to export from google to a .vcf. Then i dropped it into an empty icloud contacts page. Then i manually edited the address fields. Luckily i only had about 10 addresses in there. i don't write many letters. Also needed to edit some birthdays. For some reason if i didn't have a year in the birthday in google when i exported it and added it to icloud it added 1970 as the year. Then when done i dropped hi res pics into icloud contacts from my desktop browser interface.
    12-12-2011 07:16 AM
  20. sillypop's Avatar

    Surprise! With iCloud, there more new known issues! They're at the top of the list on the web page above. Keep your data separated according to platform and you'll be a happy camper. Since I did it my way, I have spent maybe 5 minutes this year ironing out any issues, and I've eliminated my IT guy (I didn't like him anyway, he was a tool...). If anyone tells you synching with Google is easy, well, read the hundreds of new posts on Google's Help Center that indicate something like "my iPhone/iPad won't sync to my Google account, waaaah" or "my Google contacts are all ******ed up, wahhhh". Too bad, so sad - do it my way.
    Bones, you are saying keep the platform contacts separate right?

    But say one enters a contact on their iPhone (iCloud), and then wants to send an email in Gmail using that Contact, it's not going to be there...

    How do you keep them in Sync if they're separate?

    Confused
    12-22-2011 09:30 AM
  21. bonesb's Avatar
    Bones, you are saying keep the platform contacts separate right?

    But say one enters a contact on their iPhone (iCloud), and then wants to send an email in Gmail using that Contact, it's not going to be there...

    How do you keep them in Sync if they're separate?

    Confused
    Don't be confused. Read my earlier post in this thread. I keep my contacts essentially duplicated but each platform completely separate - I use (and mandate for my own company) a vCard as a basis for a contact, but then import each vCard into a Google account or Outlook account individually. I don't sync them but make sure our platforms are essentially duplicates of each other (redundancy). When a contact is no longer needed, it's removed from each of the four platforms we use. Some may say the way I do it it's a PITA, but each contact add/delete takes maybe 10 seconds to import and verify. If we use Google Apps via the web interface, or an iOS or Mac, or Outlook, each contact is properly formatted.

    Another simple means of getting a vCard into a Gmail account - mail it to that account and add it from the Inbox - QED.

    I know that synching across platforms should "just work" - and I don't mean the Mac platform or the Windows platform, but the vCard/Google CSV/Outlook CSV/Yahoo Contacts formats - keeping a file isolated to its platform (Google's exporting leaves much to be desired (like doing it the same way every single time - it doesn't). Synching across platforms doesn't "just work" and since I started doing it my way we've had not one problem with duplicates or some other synching headache. I've read the "it works for me" posts - whatever, it's just a matter of time... I'm not anti-Gmail, not in the slightest way...
    12-23-2011 01:43 AM
  22. sillypop's Avatar
    Don't be confused. Read my earlier post in this thread. I keep my contacts essentially duplicated but each platform completely separate - I use (and mandate for my own company) a vCard as a basis for a contact, but then import each vCard into a Google account or Outlook account individually. I don't sync them but make sure our platforms are essentially duplicates of each other (redundancy). When a contact is no longer needed, it's removed from each of the four platforms we use. Some may say the way I do it it's a PITA, but each contact add/delete takes maybe 10 seconds to import and verify. If we use Google Apps via the web interface, or an iOS or Mac, or Outlook, each contact is properly formatted.

    Another simple means of getting a vCard into a Gmail account - mail it to that account and add it from the Inbox - QED.

    I know that synching across platforms should "just work" - and I don't mean the Mac platform or the Windows platform, but the vCard/Google CSV/Outlook CSV/Yahoo Contacts formats - keeping a file isolated to its platform (Google's exporting leaves much to be desired (like doing it the same way every single time - it doesn't). Synching across platforms doesn't "just work" and since I started doing it my way we've had not one problem with duplicates or some other synching headache. I've read the "it works for me" posts - whatever, it's just a matter of time... I'm not anti-Gmail, not in the slightest way...

    So you telling me each time you remove or add a contact you have to manually do it in 4 places?

    Wow. I agree with everyone that is a huge PITA. QED

    Sorry.
    12-23-2011 03:11 AM
  23. bonesb's Avatar
    So you telling me each time you remove or add a contact you have to manually do it in 4 places?

    Wow. I agree with everyone that is a huge PITA. QED

    Sorry.
    For what? I've seen endless thread titles about sync problems, duplication errors, and general whining. I have none of those problems, and neither do any of my 20-odd employees using my GAL - ever. A few tweaks like this to my workflow, and I cut out my IT guy - $80k per year saved. I've spent maybe 8-10 minutes this entire year managing my contacts lists. So, it's not a PITA, and not everyone disagrees with me - I just see it as others simply don't get sync platforms and don't know how to parse data efficiently. I offered my advice, use it or don't - and you and maybe 8-10 people that are following this thread isn't "everyone". About the copy, I wrote an Applescript - executable from the Finder, and the copy takes two clicks of a mouse. QED.

    I'm using part of my IT budget and taking me to Hawaii and Pohnpei for some sun and fun. Thanks in part to my workflow change. Yeah, you're not so much the expert, eh?
    12-23-2011 07:28 PM
  24. warmwater's Avatar
    Okay, here is my solution to this that works really well for me. Here is what I want:
    Full field labels from iCloud. (usually Google changes email fields to Other)
    Full res pics for incoming calls.
    If Google Contacts offered these then I wouldn't bother with iCloud.
    So what I did was:
    Import my Google contacts into iCloud. (see previous post in this thread).
    I already had Google Exchange set up and running.
    Turn on iCloud Contacts on iPhone.
    iOS5 automatically links exact names without showing them as duplicates.
    Under All Contacts do any editing you want (set pic, label fields, etc.)
    That will update both iCloud AND Google.
    iOS5 is smart enough to use iCloud Contact info first so you get all the benefit of iCloud but any updates also get pushed to Google Contacts.
    I've been using it for the last few hours and so no drawbacks.
    I think this will work for the majority out there that have been sealing with this issue.
    The above alost worked but was missing one step. I have solved it! I want the same things mentioned above, the main thing I was missing was full resolution pictures for calls made and received.
    I started with a clean export of Google contacts, cleaned off my Iphone 4S through Itunes, cleaned off all contacts from the Mac Address book then began.
    First synced Iphone via the exchange method, now I have a synced IPhone and google contacts list

    I make sure that the phone and the mac do not sync address or calendars through Itunes. This solution does not use Itunes for anything.

    I then turn on Icloud and have it sync with my Mac Address book
    There is still nothing in either at this point.

    Then I open address book on my Mac and double click the VCard format I exported from google contacts. (This is found at the Contacts Settings page at Google, I exported every type just to be sure). I now have a Mac address book and ICloud syncing perfectly, but it still does not know anything about my Iphone

    I then turn on Icloud as mentioned above, on my Iphone 4. Now on my Iphone Under Groups I have All Contacts, Exchange/Contacts and iCloud/All ICloud

    Now I go to Settings, Mail Contacts and Calendars, scroll down to the Contacts option and under Default account I click to iCloud.

    Just did this, but now when I take a picture for a contact it syncs instantly via the cloud to google contacts, icloud and my mac address book and shows up when that contact calls me, at least it has for a few minutes, after 5 minutes, I have found it no longer shows the full picture when I call them.
    01-04-2012 04:27 PM
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