1. zacapplegate's Avatar
    it sounds like instead of adding new features, they're taking them away...
    05-07-2009 01:00 AM
  2. amrusch2's Avatar
    Yeah, someone should remind Apple why they were founded in the first place...
    05-07-2009 01:09 AM
  3. shutter's Avatar
    Well, you can get it back. The previous version of iTunes 8.2 will load beta 5 and you can install the ipcc file you need with it. Easiest way to keep mms is to make sure the updated ipcc file is already on your phone and then update to beta 5 via "shift + update". I ended up restore from a back up of beta three and then applying the ipcc update, reset my phone and I got it back.
    05-07-2009 01:15 AM
  4. amrusch2's Avatar
    You got back to beta three without bricking??
    05-07-2009 01:16 AM
  5. shutter's Avatar
    no, I used a back up of beta 4 for my restore (from backup) for beta 5. the 3 in my previous post was a typo.
    05-07-2009 01:19 AM
  6. jhamilton3's Avatar
    Updated and then had the Data error problem..

    had to restore back to beta 4 after trying 5 one more time

    doing this as I speak.. crossing my fingers it puts everything back to working condition
    05-07-2009 02:37 AM
  7. Satanic Goat's Avatar
    Gonna have a stab at putting this on tonight after work. Any UK users tried? As I take it MMS is called for every carrier?
    05-07-2009 02:41 AM
  8. jhamilton3's Avatar
    Now it won't let me restore back to Beta 4.. I keep getting the unknown error 1015..

    edit.. spent an hour trying different things to get it to let me go back to Beta 4 and it still wouldn't work

    so I had to go back to 5 and deal with the no data problem.. not sure what I'm gonna do
    Last edited by jhamilton3; 05-07-2009 at 03:55 AM.
    05-07-2009 02:52 AM
  9. shutter's Avatar
    You cannot downgrade from one beta to the next cause we get a new baseband with each beta. error 1015 means it could not update the baseband.

    If your a dev there is a number to call to get your data services back. If your not a dev.....you can probably downgrade back to 2.2.1.
    05-07-2009 08:03 AM
  10. shutter's Avatar
    Known Issues
    A small set of AT&T customers may experience data services that stop working
    after installing iPhone OS 3.0 beta 5 on a device. If you experience this problem
    with a device that worked properly before the beta 5 update, please call the
    developer support line at 1-800-633-2152 for help restoring data services.
    05-07-2009 08:05 AM
  11. III NIKON III's Avatar
    If you restore back you need iRestore to kit start it after 1015 error but you will need to do it every time you reboot unless you use a jailbreak version
    05-07-2009 09:19 AM
  12. Duvi's Avatar
    I will be skipping this update... how long do I have with beta 4 until it expires? One of my co-workers that I updated to beta3 still has her phone up and going, no issues.
    05-07-2009 10:09 AM
  13. JustinHorn's Avatar
    I will be skipping this update... how long do I have with beta 4 until it expires? One of my co-workers that I updated to beta3 still has her phone up and going, no issues.
    I'm thinking of holding off on this one as well. Since they were doing it every 2 weeks before and I assume they give themselves some breathing room I'm guessing around 3 weeks, so hopefully a couple weeks left.
    05-07-2009 10:13 AM
  14. Jeremy's Avatar
    Known Issues
    A small set of AT&T customers may experience data services that stop working
    after installing iPhone OS 3.0 beta 5 on a device. If you experience this problem
    with a device that worked properly before the beta 5 update, please call the
    developer support line at 1-800-633-2152 for help restoring data services.
    While I didn't have issues with data, I know someone who is on my account and I just called them and they acted like they were clueless and pointing the finger at AT&T... they took my info and someone from AT&T (she thought) would contact me back.
    05-07-2009 10:30 AM
  15. jhamilton3's Avatar
    Known Issues
    A small set of AT&T customers may experience data services that stop working
    after installing iPhone OS 3.0 beta 5 on a device. If you experience this problem
    with a device that worked properly before the beta 5 update, please call the
    developer support line at 1-800-633-2152 for help restoring data services.
    Called that number..

    all they did was take down my info and send someone would eventually get back to me when they had came up with a solution..
    05-07-2009 11:59 AM
  16. cre8tivspirit's Avatar
    MMS is removed!!!
    You know, I just don't get it. I was able to send mms, even though I only used it with a couple of people that didn't get email on their phones, using my BB Curve. I was an AT&T customer. Why would they block it with the iPhone? Makes absolutely no sense to me.
    05-07-2009 01:41 PM
  17. c0mpguru's Avatar
    So what date would you guys expect Beta 4 to expire? I'm running Beta 4 right now and I want to update the firmware or go back to 2.2.1 before it expires.
    05-07-2009 02:41 PM
  18. Leanna Lofte's Avatar
    You know, I just don't get it. I was able to send mms, even though I only used it with a couple of people that didn't get email on their phones, using my BB Curve. I was an AT&T customer. Why would they block it with the iPhone? Makes absolutely no sense to me.
    It's blocked because the iPhone software currently doesn't support it. When 3.0 is officially released, we will have MMS.
    05-07-2009 03:02 PM
  19. jhamilton3's Avatar
    Well Apple was quick to get back to me with a solution to the data problem.

    The woman said they had to speak to AT&T about the problem and the solution was..

    1) turn off the phone
    2) turn it back on
    3) turn WiFi off
    4) then try something that uses data

    it worked.. thankfully.. was going crazy with not being able to do anything that used data..
    05-07-2009 03:04 PM
  20. cre8tivspirit's Avatar
    It's blocked because the iPhone software currently doesn't support it. When 3.0 is officially released, we will have MMS.
    Are you sure? This thread just mentioned that Beta 5 blocked mms but it was available in Beta 4.
    05-08-2009 08:04 AM
  21. Ghecko's Avatar
    It's blocked because the iPhone software currently doesn't support it. When 3.0 is officially released, we will have MMS.
    I can see why, becuase other people not on beta might not see the photo IE



    I send a picture of a beach to my 2.2.1 3G from my beta phone.

    It would show up as nothing so no point in having it in there.
    05-08-2009 09:53 AM
  22. Leanna Lofte's Avatar
    Are you sure? This thread just mentioned that Beta 5 blocked mms but it was available in Beta 4.
    That's because AT&T never enabled MMS for beta users. Sure the button to add a picture to a text message was in beta 4, but the message couldn't be sent. I'm sure AT&T got sick of all the phone calls from devs asking to have MMS enabled and asked Apple to just remove it from beta.

    It will most definitely be there in the final release.
    05-08-2009 11:43 AM
  23. MrAwesome's Avatar
    I have a problem with my 1st Gen iPhone, each time I try to restore to beta 5 i got an error 1012 at the end and then the iphone goes to DFU mode. Any idea?
    (I have the new iTunes)
    05-08-2009 05:54 PM
  24. shutter's Avatar
    Always start with the obvious...are you sure your using the right file?
    05-08-2009 06:21 PM
  25. MrAwesome's Avatar
    lol yes. I've seen some ppl have the same problem on google but no one had a solution.
    05-08-2009 06:23 PM
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