1. ame's Avatar
    I got the Series 1 from target the other day (it's shipped I don't have yet), and I saw there's 15% off tomorrow and Monday which would bring the 2 down to like $313 or something similar. Is it worth that extra ~$120 for the 2 for the supposed battery improvements, water resistance and gps (that I don't think i need other than 911...)

    This is my first Apple Watch and I figure a new one isn't that far off given they were trying to get cellular in this one and ran out of time. I'm skipping stainless in this purchase bec I would probably spend that much on one with all the bells.
    11-26-2016 12:01 PM
  2. i6splusguy's Avatar
    Series 2 has waterproof ability and gps thats the only difference with this and the series 1. I have the series 1 since it was more affordable and i didnt need gps or waterproofing.
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    11-26-2016 05:24 PM
  3. tcuprof's Avatar
    If you're not a runner or a swimmer, AW1 is the sweet spot. Why pay for GPS and waterproofing that you won't use?

    This is my first Apple Watch and I figure a new one isn't that far off given they were trying to get cellular in this one and ran out of time.

    I don't think Apple has any intention to put cellular in the AW. IMO, until there's a huge leap in battery technology, that feature isn't practical.
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    11-26-2016 06:19 PM
  4. Mac Guy's Avatar
    Series 2 has waterproof ability and gps thats the only difference with this and the series 1.
    She covered that in her post.


    If you're not a runner or a swimmer, AW1 is the sweet spot. Why pay for GPS and waterproofing that you won't use?
    I agree completely. And unless you turn out to be a very heavy user of the Watch, the battery life of the AWS1 should easily get you through the day. The S2 does have a bigger battery but that's to offset the use of GPS. The 42mm S1 will have better battery life than the 38mm S1. Some people use work out a lot have mentioned having to charge the 38mm Watch midway to get through the day. I think the S1 is a solid option for non-runners and people who won't be swimming.


    I don't think Apple has any intention to put cellular in the AW. IMO, until there's a huge leap in battery technology, that feature isn't practical.
    Again I agree. Cellular radios would suck the battery inside out in short order. I think Apple sees the Watch as an extension/accessory to the phone and not a replacement, at this time.

    Sending an SOS, text, and even making a call, without the phone, would be great. Another cellphone bill wouldn't. Apple may do that IF there's that leap in battery tech.
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    11-27-2016 07:11 AM
  5. ame's Avatar
    I attempted and failed to get an S2 at Target today on sale in aluminum and ended up with steel but I am going to take it back I think. Had I gotten the 2 as a deal I would've kept that I think but I think you've done a good job explaining the difference between the models. I don't swim, and I don't expect I'll be a heavy user. I just want to not have to pull my phone out as much and drive my husband nuts as badly, plus I'd like more activity tracking that's better than my Fitbit has been doing.

    Thanks!
    11-27-2016 11:29 AM
  6. Mac Guy's Avatar
    I just want to not have to pull my phone out as much and drive my husband nuts as badly
    The Series 1 will work well for that. And when you're on your home or other trusted network with good WiFi, your phone can be in another room and you can still use your watch for getting notifications, reminders, taking calls, etc. without having to chase down your phone in a hurry. Very handy.

    There may still be deals to be had on an S2 Aluminum. Cyber Monday is coming up so you may want to check around.
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    11-27-2016 02:27 PM
  7. ame's Avatar
    My main concern is that my phone is RARELY on wifi. Like, almost never. We have such a massive data plan that I almost never use wifi unless forced.
    11-27-2016 07:00 PM
  8. tcuprof's Avatar
    My main concern is that my phone is RARELY on wifi. Like, almost never. We have such a massive data plan that I almost never use wifi unless forced.
    You may have misinterpreted Mac Guy. You don't have to have wifi to get notifications, reminders, take calls, etc. All that will work just find with cell data.
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    11-27-2016 07:34 PM
  9. ame's Avatar
    Ok just so long as the Watch still gets all that stuff with my phone not on wifi, and I'm assuming I need to leave my Watch wifi on for it to get that stuff? Or is that via bt? Which I also literally never turn on til I'm actively using and then immediately turn back off.
    11-27-2016 11:56 PM
  10. Mac Guy's Avatar
    Ok just so long as the Watch still gets all that stuff with my phone not on wifi,
    It will.


    and I'm assuming I need to leave my Watch wifi on for it to get that stuff? Or is that via bt?
    It uses both, alternatively, as needed.The default, if the phone and Watch are close enough is to use BT. If not it'll use WiFi if there's a compatible, trusted network available. With the Watch, they're always on unless it's put in Airplane Mode.
    11-28-2016 07:17 AM
  11. Matty's Avatar
    I got the Series 1 from target the other day (it's shipped I don't have yet), and I saw there's 15% off tomorrow and Monday which would bring the 2 down to like $313 or something similar. Is it worth that extra ~$120 for the 2 for the supposed battery improvements, water resistance and gps (that I don't think i need other than 911...)

    This is my first Apple Watch and I figure a new one isn't that far off given they were trying to get cellular in this one and ran out of time. I'm skipping stainless in this purchase bec I would probably spend that much on one with all the bells.
    As others have said, Series 2 offers water resistance. So if you like swimming and running (in the rain) then it might be worth it. Otherwise, you still getting a great watch. (Series 1)
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    11-28-2016 09:26 AM
  12. dpham00's Avatar
    You also need s2 if you want the sapphire glass. But that's going to cost s lot more
    11-29-2016 10:20 AM
  13. tsparks1's Avatar
    I strongly considered the Series 2 before buying the S1 but in my case I couldn't justify the extra cost, but that's just me. I don't go anywhere without my phone negating the need for self contained GPS and the S1 is sufficiently water resistant for my needs, I have always showered in my Apple watches and that's all the water resistance I need.
    12-04-2016 08:55 AM
  14. KenV54's Avatar
    No one has mentioned anything about the reported brightness difference between S1 and S2, a factor of 2+ from what I've read. If true, is that a sufficient reason to spend the extra money on an S2 watch?
    01-01-2017 10:05 PM
  15. Mac Guy's Avatar
    I have Apple Watches and an Apple Watch S2. The S2 is only very slightly brighter than the AW. I was disappointed. It may be brighter in the dark, but that's not where I need to see the extra brightness.
    01-02-2017 04:51 AM
  16. Snoweagle's Avatar
    If you're not a runner or a swimmer, AW1 is the sweet spot. Why pay for GPS and waterproofing that you won't use
    I strongly second this sentence. Initially I also wanted to get Series 2 but the GPS wasn't for what I intended to, and I do not swim with any watches, hence dropped it and stayed with my current first gen.

    Never been happier!
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    01-02-2017 05:41 AM
  17. scruffypig's Avatar
    I strongly second this sentence. Initially I also wanted to get Series 2 but the GPS wasn't for what I intended to, and I do not swim with any watches, hence dropped it and stayed with my current first gen.

    Never been happier!
    There are 3 Apple Watch models. The original Apple Watch, the newer Series 1 and Series 2. Both the Series 1 and 2 have the newer dual core processor: The Series 1 has the Apple S1P processor, the Apple Series 2 has the Apple S2 processor.
    01-02-2017 07:50 AM
  18. Snoweagle's Avatar
    There are 3 Apple Watch models. The original Apple Watch, the newer Series 1 and Series 2. Both the Series 1 and 2 have the newer dual core processor: The Series 1 has the Apple S1P processor, the Apple Series 2 has the Apple S2 processor.
    Yeah that I know and I have the first gen original. In fact, original is S1 single-core, Series 1 is dual-core S1P and Series 2 is dual-core S2. I've tried the Series 2 but the difference is speed isn't phenomenal. For now I can still make do with my first gen.
    01-02-2017 08:07 AM
  19. KenV54's Avatar
    Thanks, everyone, for the clarifications. Sounds as though the Series 1 would be enough unless you need the GPS and extra waterproofing.

    Now the big question: whether to retire my Pebble Time in favor of the S1. Pebble, of course, is in some sort of limbo, with its future yet to be determined by FitBit. I was using it with a BlackBerry Passport before I got my iPhone 7, but the Pebble works well with the IPhone, has the always on watch face and the e-paper screen with great battery life.

    Anyone here migrate from Pebble to the Apple Watch?
    01-02-2017 10:09 AM
  20. Mac Guy's Avatar
    Anyone here migrate from Pebble to the Apple Watch?
    Me.

    I have a Gen 1 Pebble, and used it until I got an Apple Watch Sport on Day One. The Pebble went into a drawer and only sees the light of day when I open the drawer for something else.

    When the rumors started showing up about the Watch, I couldn't bare the wait and got the Pebble, on sale. There were no other versions at the time, but some others may have been announced.

    Gen 1 Pebble didn't do much, and all it needed to do for me was provide notifications. It was a chore to use. I had to drill down and up to navigate, pressing one button to get a category and another to drill down in that category. It was cool for a few days, but I new Apple's implementation would be better for me. And so it was.

    I assume the latest/last Pebbles are more sophisticated and provide a better user experience. But if I were to buy a smartwatch now, for the first time, it would be an Apple Watch Series 1. Even an Apple Watch (original) at a good price, could be a really good, satisfactory deal.
    01-02-2017 07:01 PM
  21. KenV54's Avatar
    Me.

    I have a Gen 1 Pebble, and used it until I got an Apple Watch Sport on Day One. The Pebble went into a drawer and only sees the light of day when I open the drawer for something else.

    When the rumors started showing up about the Watch, I couldn't bare the wait and got the Pebble, on sale. There were no other versions at the time, but some others may have been announced.

    Gen 1 Pebble didn't do much, and all it needed to do for me was provide notifications. It was a chore to use. I had to drill down and up to navigate, pressing one button to get a category and another to drill down in that category. It was cool for a few days, but I new Apple's implementation would be better for me. And so it was.

    I assume the latest/last Pebbles are more sophisticated and provide a better user experience. But if I were to buy a smartwatch now, for the first time, it would be an Apple Watch Series 1. Even an Apple Watch (original) at a good price, could be a really good, satisfactory deal.
    Thanks, Mac Guy. Very helpful.

    I have the Pebble Time and was waiting for the Pebble Time 2, which as we know turned out to be vaporware with the shutdown of Pebble. No one knows what Fit-Bit is going to do with the Pebble hardware or software. The Pebble Time still does everything it did before, for now, as long as they keep the Pebble server going, I suppose.

    The Pebble Time was an improvement over the original Pebble (which I had but later sold, or maybe gave away would be a better term). The Time has a color screen, is faster, has its own set of apps, etc., and coordinated well with the iPhone, but as you say, the navigation is cumbersome, and you can't do all that much with it. It's more passive than active.

    I'm not much of a fitness tracker, so that part doesn't interest me too much. Getting messages and being able to do some of the iPhone functions through the watch is appealing. One thing I don't like about the Apple watch, from what I've read, is that the time itself isn't always on the screen (to prolong battery life). Do you find that annoying?

    So--I need to first convince myself to buy the Apple Watch, then convince my wife that I need it, just to keep things sane at home. :-) My dog (pictured) said to just go ahead and buy it, but only after I gave him a treat.
    01-03-2017 12:38 PM
  22. KenV54's Avatar
    I bit the bullet and ordered a S1 gold sports aluminum 42" w cocoa band, refurbished, from Apple, to arrive on the 6th.

    The posts here convinced me. Thank you.
    ReVu30 and Mac Guy like this.
    01-04-2017 12:14 AM
  23. James Falconer's Avatar
    My two cents - if you can afford the extra for the Series 2, go for it. Some really great new features, and the beefier specs will help futureproof it a bit. That said, absolutely nothing wrong with the Series 1. If you don't need GPS or could care less about the waterproofing, it's going to do you just fine!
    njlx2016 and aximtreo like this.
    01-04-2017 11:54 PM
  24. KenV54's Avatar
    Preliminary report:

    The Apple Watch, S1, 42mm, blows my Pebble Time out of the water. The Apple Watch is a Porsche, and the Pebble is a VW. Wow! Why did I wait so long?

    Details: Apple refurbished Gold Aluminum with Cocoa sport band ($249). I found a tan leather band at Best Buy (Nomad), which goes well with it, and costs about $40. No, it's not the same quality as the Apple genuine leather band, but it doesn't cost $150, either.

    I am a convert.

    Series 1 vs 2--is the extra 0 worth it?-imoreappimg_20170106_183736.jpgSeries 1 vs 2--is the extra 0 worth it?-imoreappimg_20170106_183730.jpg
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    01-06-2017 06:40 PM
  25. Mac Guy's Avatar
    Details: Apple refurbished Gold Aluminum with Cocoa sport band ($249).
    Good on ya! Nice score. I really like the Apple bands but if I find a third party band I really like, it doesn't bother that it's not Genuine apple kit. Not a bit.
    01-07-2017 04:09 AM
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