- 07-26-2009, 05:48 PM #51
Thanks for the tips, I have tried not to level up but I couldn't stay at level 17 forever, and eventually I accumulated enough XP to advance to level 18 mainly from being attacked and winning the battle.
One of my problems is that I have too many allies, I have 187 allies right now which means whenever I level up (which happens like once a week) I am automatically faced with the "masters", for lack of better word, of each level. This is a big downside because I get attacked a lot more than usual. Luckily I try to either transfer my money to my vault or spend it before the enemy has a chance to attack.
Also, to keep this forum going, does anyone have any tips as to how to intimidate the enemy into not attacking you? Name? Number of Units..etc..?
When I was actually fighting, the first thing I looked at was the number of wins vs losses. If there was a huge disparity, and the wins were much higher than mine, I'd avoid them outright.
Next I'd look at the units. Anyone with huge numbers of attack or defensive units were not considered*. I have read not to put too much stock in infantry units, but all the others make a huge difference.
I don't know if there is much validity to my process, but it is what intimidates me. That is one reason I hate getting beaten so much right now. I still have 600 more wins than losses, but without me fighting at all, the gap is narrowing, and I fear that will be an inducement for even more attacks.
*By this I mean, someone with few units per se, but 500 Aircraft Carriers. I would not attack anyone like that.
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- 07-26-2009, 06:13 PM #53
I totally agree, the first things I look at are the wins and losses. But I never stop there because many people that have a large number of wins are not as great as their statistics say. I move down to the units; if they have "thousands" of infantry units then I right away move to another person, not because the infantry is too powerful for me but because people with, lets say.. 10,000 paratroopers most likely make much more many than I do, meaning they can afford better units. Of course these are not the only things that stop me from attacking people, but are amongst the least obvious.
I noticed in some members' comments a disclaimer saying something along the lines of: "DO NOT ATTACK ME, I AM CAMPING TO BUILD INCOME IF YOU ATTACK ME THEN YOU ARE A COWARD"
What is your input on a message like this? Personally I think that it would egg people on even more to attack me. What do you think?
- 07-26-2009, 06:14 PM #54
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- 07-26-2009, 08:22 PM #58iPhone Newbie
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People don't last on the sanction list for long though. They get killed really fast.
- 07-26-2009, 08:59 PM #59
- 07-26-2009, 09:26 PM #60
In regard as to who to hit, look for the best defensive unit you can attain at your level (like for me it's carriers at 60 defense). Check how many they have, and if they have the max amount (15xlvl) then generally avoid them (at least until you have the offense to crack those defenses).
Anyhow, that my feeling on the matter; other's may vary.
P.S. What's with the advert? Do you work for Storm8?
Last edited by Badshah; 07-30-2009 at 08:45 AM.
- 07-26-2009, 10:42 PM #62iPhone Newbie
- 26 Posts
A fun story about sanctions (Illustrated screen shots)
Speaking of sanctions here's a story about a friend of mine. Back when I was lvl 13 I was building $$$ makers until i was satisfied and wanted to move on. Well I started getting attacked by a guy named Grimsey. The strange thing was I kept winning over and over yet he kept attacking me. Every time he'd attack me I'd attack him back and win, so I wasn't sure why he kept it up, then he started winning somehow. He had the same units as before as did I, but he was winning all of a sudden. (This is about where the screen shots start) So I increased my building defense which didn't help much then bought a bunch of Naval Destroyers (27A,15D) until i began winning about 15 destroyers total. Then he bought 11 Commache Helicopters (25A,13D) and started winning again. So I decided to level up to lvl 15 and bought myself 8 M80 Stilettos (15A,35D) and he hasn't been able to beat me since.
Instead he decided to sanction me FOR $850,000. I thought it was funny, lost around $20,000 and then attacked him again. After all that's what the games about. I guess I pissed him off sooo much that he decided to sanction me 22 times (and counting). Then to top it off he used up 50 honor points to join my country, so now can't attack him lol. When I saw that it just made my day. So since I keep getting added to the sanctions list I decided to add my alliance code to my name. And get some allies with the exposure.
The nice thing about getting Sanctioned, although you get beat to a pulp there are a ton of people that attack you and don't win. Therefore check them out and find a few cash cows. 3 of the people that attacked me and lost ended being great to get cash from.
When people put a sanction on you does the minimum amount go up each time?
Also at higher levels do people often sanction you over and over?
- 07-27-2009, 12:43 AM #63
so after readings some decide to make a nice income and been trying to get my max allies that i can get and the get the max of units with the high def buy some def buildings and seems that anyone at my level can't touch me untill i level again and i did after winnings at level 17 someone can get 85 allies and then 255 units to use and the unit with the most attack is the B-1 Lancer attack 50 so thats a 12750 attack power plus his stat power ???? so i need to create a def greater than that so the M80 Stiletto has a def of 35 by 255 thats a 8925 defense points need to get more def buildings if i want to survive
- 07-27-2009, 01:01 AM #64
for people who don't know ur attack power comes in play when you attack and your defense when you are been attack ...........that means if u attack someone with attack of 2 and defense of 12 and you have an attack of 10 and defense of 20 well you will loose the fight because he has greater defense than your attack but if he attack then you will win
- 07-27-2009, 01:22 AM #65
- 07-27-2009, 01:29 AM #66
But well I would like to discusse some more especially to hear the opinion of the creator of this thread.
Like the how we spend our 3 points of stats everytime we level I been thinking now and I think they should be used for attack only if u want defense you could buy a bunker and there's ur 3 points of def but ur attack power will depend on your units that you can use depending on your level and allies you have .......
- 07-27-2009, 02:51 AM #67
After much reading, I am still not certain how to spend those points. I started out putting a lot of them into Energy, because I wanted to do more missions. Problem with that is, I leveled too fast. That has been discussed. I think for now I will stick to Attack points. Since you cannot see your opponents stats, it is the unknown quantity.
Have you ever been beaten by someone that you thought you should pwn? I have. I think it may stem from them having a higher attack rating than you. I am sure there is also a random factor. There must be, because I have been attacked by the same person repeatedly and sometimes they win and sometimes they lose, without anything changing in the meantime.
I didn't mean to come across heavyhanded with the poster who said to put your alliance codes here. It's not my thread. I just hoped that, along with your codes, you will participate in this discussion of the game itself. With that being said, please add: q6dqcd.
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- 07-27-2009, 09:33 AM #69
Yeah I've been beaten by someone who I thought I should beat. At lvl 40 you see alot of classic carrier only forces. Theoretically 400 carriers ar more should be able to repel 600 carriers but I've lost to full carrier attacks even at +500 carriers to defend. I'm pretty sure attack attribute points are multipliers, even as simple as 1% per point. And I agree there is a random factor also.
- 07-27-2009, 09:38 AM #70
Oh, because of what I just posted above, definetely pour most of your points into attack and use your $$ to bolster your defenses. I also put some points into ammo too (I think I'm at 22 ammo). Currently my atk and def points are equal but I will concentrate on atk from now on.
- 07-27-2009, 09:50 AM #71
Ever since I began killing people on the sanctions list (which was yesterday) I haven't been able to stop. I am already half way to level 19 and I'm scared I will be eaten alive.
This forum has really been helpful to me and the discussion is great, thank you DonBurns for starting this thread.
I think we should all work together to get to the bottom of this Attack/Defense Skill Points enigma. It seems to me that nobody, and by nobody I mean nobody, knows the answer to this conundrum.
I have never succeeded in killing anyone on the Sanctions list. Either they are my own nation, or they are too tough, or they are dead before I fire a shot. I'd like to be more successful at it. Any tips?
Help me hit 1000 today!
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- 07-27-2009, 10:08 AM #73
I just started and I have 6 kills, I'd say after about 20 minutes of attacking. You just have to be swift. Keep refreshing the page by pressing on battle then sanctions again and again. When you see someone with a level lower than you attack automatically. If someone is on the same level you probably will have to look at their profile but chances are that by the time you confirmed you are stronger than them, they have already been defeated. If the first hit doesn't kill someone you must be fast to scroll down and attack again, be prepared for this because most likely they will not die on the first attack.
- 07-27-2009, 10:09 AM #74
- 07-27-2009, 10:17 AM #75
The key to sanction hunting is to attack your own country to refresh the page. Look fast as to the lvl your attacking and hit em if they are close or lower than your lvl. So far I've gotten 600+ kills using this method.
It gets addicting though so slow down if you are leveling to fast.