1. rdubmu's Avatar
    I am getting kind of annoyed about not having a headphone jack. I have already lost my dongle. Thinking of either going back to my iPhone 6s plus or just using my Lumia 950XL as my primary phone. (with the lack of apps and horrible ecosystem)

    I do have a pair of beats studio wireless headphones but I use the cord for conference calls as just having the headphones the microphone on the studios are pretty bad. The cord microphone works very well.
    decypher44 and dejanh like this.
    10-24-2016 09:54 PM
  2. recDNA's Avatar
    It wasn't a brave decision. It was an arrogant, thoughtless, greedy decision.
    10-24-2016 10:42 PM
  3. DX9's Avatar
    I was a little annoyed at first because I use Square Reader to process payments for my clients. I go to get their credit card and was about to plug in the reader in the bottom of the phone forgetting that there is no jack. Had to go all the way home to get the adapter.

    Went to Apple Store to buy a spare and keep it in my truck now.
    10-25-2016 04:26 AM
  4. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    Yes, it's annoying but unless you're ready to completely leave iOS it's probably best that you find a way to accept it. The headphone jack probably isn't coming back. I'm not debating; this is just the honest truth. Replacement dongles are $9 each. I suggest picking a few up and just keeping them attached to whatever headphones you plan on using on your iPhone 7. Is it a perfect solution? No. It works though.

    Whatever you decide, come back and let us know!
    10-25-2016 05:36 AM
  5. decypher44's Avatar
    I am so annoyed with the decision to ditch the 3.5 jack. I've had my 7+ for a little over a week, and I'm already annoyed. The adapter is garbage. The sound quality on my two pairs of Bose is horrible. Oh, not to mention that I had to plug and unplug the adapter 4 times before it would work.

    The EarPods that came with the phone sound "ok", but the hard plastic hurts my ears.

    And Bluetooth -as of now- isn't a very ideal solution. If you're connected to a watch, expect a lot of streaming problems and outright dropouts.
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    10-25-2016 01:00 PM
  6. zog1977's Avatar
    i have had no issues with bluetooth or the headphones
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    10-25-2016 03:38 PM
  7. rdubmu's Avatar
    i have had no issues with bluetooth or the headphones
    That's good to hear. I hope soon there will be wide adoption for the lightning connection in headphones. Unfortunately I don't think there will be
    10-25-2016 07:50 PM
  8. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    That's good to hear. I hope soon there will be wide adoption for the lightning connection in headphones. Unfortunately I don't think there will be
    I agree. I think the removal of the headphone jack is a wireless headphone play more than a lightning headphone play. The lightning EarPods are a temporary bandaid until wireless adoption catches up.
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    10-25-2016 07:53 PM
  9. recDNA's Avatar
    I agree. I think the removal of the headphone jack is a wireless headphone play more than a lightning headphone play. The lightning EarPods are a temporary bandaid until wireless adoption catches up.
    Not much consolation for those who already own the phone. Being an early adopter of new tech is attractive but almost always a mistake.
    10-25-2016 08:17 PM
  10. Quis89's Avatar
    Fortunately this time around I went with the Plus. So I've been fine using the lightening headphones because the battery life on my 7 Plus is WAYYY better than my 6S. So I no longer need to charge during the day while at my desk.

    My experience with bluetooth is no different. I've had my bluetooth headphones drop connection twice since getting my 7 Plus. It is convenient when it works but it's got a ways to go before its the definitive option for audio. Using bluetooth outside when it's windy is a headache in itself.
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    10-26-2016 04:11 PM
  11. Abu Khadija's Avatar
    I haven't used the lightning EarPods yet. Still waiting for the Airpods to be released.
    10-26-2016 05:16 PM
  12. mmohn01's Avatar
    I was annoyed at first, but if you think about it we've been dealing with antiquated "stereo" sound for years. While our TV's have upgraded to HDMI, Component cable, and optical cables...our headphones are limited. Think of lightning and USB-C headphones as finally getting HDMI sound quality for our phones . It's long overdue.
    10-26-2016 07:19 PM
  13. recDNA's Avatar
    I was annoyed at first, but if you think about it we've been dealing with antiquated "stereo" sound for years. While our TV's have upgraded to HDMI, Component cable, and optical cables...our headphones are limited. Think of lightning and USB-C headphones as finally getting HDMI sound quality for our phones . It's long overdue.
    Maybe - maybe not. Better to wait 2 years and SEE. Early adopters pay through the nose in $ and inconvenience. All and I mean ALL tech reviews said beta-max was better than VHS but VHS remained the standard for many years and beta max never did.
    decypher44 likes this.
    10-26-2016 07:23 PM
  14. mmohn01's Avatar
    True, but when Beta Max came out we didn't have the option to leave crappy reviews on a Best Buy website.
    Shanicenicolle likes this.
    10-26-2016 07:26 PM
  15. recDNA's Avatar
    Beta max users loved it and screamed to high heavens. There was communication in the tech community b4 internet. VHS just grabbed the public. USB C or lightening offer nothing I need now. In 2 years maybe dollar store headphones will use those interfaces and drug store phone chargers won't be micro usb but in the meantime I prefer the ubiquitous to the cutting edge. It saves money and headaches.
    10-26-2016 08:04 PM
  16. garrett96's Avatar
    Can't tell you how many times I've went to plug my phone up to charge while listening to music with EarPods & realized I couldn't do both at the same time. I miss the headphone jack :/
    decypher44 likes this.
    10-30-2016 10:15 PM
  17. dpham00's Avatar
    Can't tell you how many times I've went to plug my phone up to charge while listening to music with EarPods & realized I couldn't do both at the same time. I miss the headphone jack :/
    You can do it with a splitter.


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    11-01-2016 08:02 AM
  18. jj2339's Avatar
    I have a big issue having to buy an attachment to make this possible.
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    11-01-2016 08:12 AM
  19. MeanMark's Avatar
    I thought it would bother me. I use my phone for conference calls and often needed to charge my 6 while on a call. I have the 7 Plus now and I realize I don't have to charge as often. I've always used the earbuds that come with the phone so I put the adapter in a draw and doubt I'll ever use it. I'm waiting for the air pods and will probably buy them when they are released. I think Apple builds products for the 80% as opposed to the 20%. I'm sure most people use the ear buds that come with the phone and don't need the adapter. For those who have pricey headphones the adapter is there. So now, we're down to the few people like me who sit at a desk and use their phones on conference calls while charging. Probably a small number and unless you are on calls for 8-9 hours straight, you can just charge the phone in between calls.
    11-01-2016 01:09 PM
  20. lusid1's Avatar
    Kind of in a similar boat. Lots of conference calls. Wireless is adequate when you just need to listen in, but sometimes its important that the other folks on the call be able to hear you. Wireless isn't good for that. Maybe the airpods will be ok if they ship, but they they look like vaporware at this point. Anyway, the best plan I can come up with is to buy a bunch of docks and leave them in my stationary work locations, and a handful of lightning DACs for my dongle bag and my travel bags. Not sure what to do about the car though. Commutes in my area are 2-3 hours in a stretch, and I'm often on the phone for most of it. My car requires a USB connection to the phone to pull traffic data, and my state requires hands-free operation. My car has a speaker phone, but using it is cruel to whoever I'm talking to. That leaves me with bluetooth mediocrity or that belkin splitter. Neither sound like good approaches. Does anyone have a better solution?
    12-04-2016 02:55 AM
  21. robertk328's Avatar
    The future is wireless... had to rip the band-aid off at some point
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    12-04-2016 07:04 AM
  22. jj2339's Avatar
    The future is wireless... had to rip the band-aid off at some point
    Good point, your logic is impeccable. Driverless cars are also be future, I'm going to run to the store and let my car drive itself.

    Technology isn't ready for pure wireless for every situation. That 'rip the bandaid' logic is really silly, for people who have real needs that can't be met by removing a jack, which didn't seem completely necessary or courageous.
    dejanh likes this.
    12-04-2016 09:10 AM
  23. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    ...Wireless is adequate when you just need to listen in, but sometimes its important that the other folks on the call be able to hear you. Wireless isn't good for that. ....
    I suppose using some wireless accessories could be inadequate, but I don't recall any situations where using a wireless headset with any of the iPhones I've owned over the years were bad. Bluetooth connectivity has never been an issue for me.
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    12-04-2016 09:47 AM
  24. dafmay's Avatar
    I agree. Unfortunate though Apple doesn't implement Aptx. We need better wireless audio quality.
    12-04-2016 10:14 AM
  25. lusid1's Avatar
    Good point, your logic is impeccable. Driverless cars are also be future, I'm going to run to the store and let my car drive itself.

    Technology isn't ready for pure wireless for every situation. That 'rip the bandaid' logic is really silly, for people who have real needs that can't be met by removing a jack, which didn't seem completely necessary or courageous.
    Not sure why people think it's the future. I've gone through close to 30 Bluetooth hands free devices over the years. I do hope good Bluetooth comes along at some point. "In the future".

    Wireless audio is easy. People have generally low expectations for audio quality so as long as it doesn't drop out most people would call it good.

    Wireless microphones are an entirely different problem set. If it was easy the Airpods would be an actual product by now. The companies that have been doing it for a while have a lot of R&D into noise cancellation algorithms and ambient noise rejection techniques, sometimes they work sometimes they don't, and you'll never know it until someone on the call says they have no idea what you just said.
    jj2339 and dejanh like this.
    12-04-2016 11:49 AM
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