- 09-15-2007, 10:54 AM #3076
- 09-15-2007, 12:10 PM #3077
- 09-15-2007, 01:30 PM #3078
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- 09-15-2007, 07:08 PM #3080
- 09-16-2007, 03:05 AM #3081
- 09-16-2007, 11:29 AM #3082
Either way, Apple still keeps your money.
- 09-16-2007, 12:09 PM #3083
Fine by me. $200 off stuff I was going to buy anyway is just as good as $200 cash to me. And to me it's a $200 gift. I was willing to pay full price for the iphone because it was worth it to me; the fact that they lowered the price after I bought it doesn't change the fact that I felt like I got what I paid for when I bought it.
- 09-16-2007, 12:56 PM #3084
- 09-16-2007, 02:51 PM #3085
- 09-16-2007, 02:52 PM #3086
No denial. I was waiting for leopard before buying, and i am still going to wait. I figure they'll spin new hardware around the leopard introduction. (yes, cash would have been better - would have earned a few cents interest prior to my hardware purchase)
- 09-16-2007, 02:55 PM #3087
- 09-17-2007, 01:00 PM #3088
Well, Apple was mostly honest about their $100 squeaky-wheel greasing program - except the part about being able to spend it on any product sold by Apple. Looks like you won't be allowed to purchase an iTunes gift card with $100 overcharge. Chalk up another thing that "absolutely sucks" about an iPhone purchase experience. Apple: We reserve the right to nickel & dime you ad nauseum.
- 09-17-2007, 03:01 PM #3089
Really? I thought i saw somewhere (tuaw?) that people had already bought itunes gift cards.
Though, frankly, I'm not sure of the advantage - the codes you get don't expire, and if I want to give one away as a gift I can scribble it into a hallmark card just as easily as i can go to apple for a plastic gift card. I guess you mean to use it specifically to buy songs? (apple has itunes certificates, itunes gift cards, apple gift cards, etc. gets confusing!)
- 09-17-2007, 03:03 PM #3090
- 09-17-2007, 04:11 PM #3091
- 09-17-2007, 04:18 PM #3092
- 09-17-2007, 04:46 PM #3093
And now that I think of it, really?
"Chalk up another thing that "absolutely sucks" about an iPhone purchase experience. Apple: We reserve the right to nickel & dime you ad nauseum."
I mean, I've never had a better purchasing experience. When I've purchased Palm and samsung phones, when I've done it via Sprint stores they have gone and told me one thing in the store about my plan, and then I get the first bill and see they enrolled me in completely different plans. When the price came down on the phones, I never got any kind of rebate, not cash, not future discounts. Nothing. When my palm repeatedly crashed, wiping out my preferences database, neither Sprint nor Palm did anything to help; I think there were two firmware upgrades in the entire time I owned the treo 650, and both of those required me to delete stuff off my phone so I would have enough free memory just to install them. When I had to call to get my phones turned on, I was usually on hold for a long time, followed by someone trying to sell me yet more plan options before they would authorize my phone; it certainly wasn't something I could do from within a software program on my PC.
iPhone isn't even close to perfect, but this is definitely the best purchasing experience I've had with a cellphone. When I hear reports of people smashing their iphones and getting instant free replacements from the apple store, I laugh at the thought of getting that kind of treatment from palm or sprint. And to say one is getting nickle and dimed because one might not be able to convert free "apple cash" into a free "itunes cash" is sort of silly compared to what goes on with other phones and phone plans.
- 09-17-2007, 10:17 PM #3094
With 8 smartphones and 7 regular phones purchased from Verizon over the last years 7 years (plus a data card), I'm still surprised to get significant discounts even when I offer to pay full price (to keep my contract term from changing). For example, I just purchased a Q9m 3 weeks ago, planned on paying the full $419 for it, the phone rep told me I could have it for $349 with a 1 year, but I turned that down. The CSR then told me I could have it for $349 without a contract change. I almost refused ( hah!), but took the deal anyway. Two days later, when I called to activate the Q9m, I got another $100 knocked off just for having already purchased the unlimited data plan. $249 with no contract on a $419 retail phone - now THAT's a positive purchasing experience. :thumbsup:
- 09-28-2007, 09:26 PM #3095
firmware that bricks unlocked and/or jailbreaked phones intentionally! They can say what they want and spint eh press how they like to look innocent, but when you have some of the best software & hardware engineers in Silicon Valley it's hard to believe that, after releasing several previous firmware updates that did NOT brick things, all of a sudden it happening as a side effect and not intentional!!
- 09-28-2007, 09:53 PM #3096
But using previous firmware updates as evidence that this one is malicious isn't necessarily an accurate way to analyze the situation.
- 09-28-2007, 10:23 PM #3097
- 09-28-2007, 11:24 PM #3098
Well, it's not in their best interest to brick them such that they can not be activated even with AT&T, which is apparently what happened, at least for one of the two unlocking methods.
I'm guessing what went on is they had to change the code for other reasons (and to prevent against future unlocks), and they just didn't care one way or the other whether they bricked phones in the process.
- 09-29-2007, 09:12 AM #3099
- 09-29-2007, 12:35 PM #3100