iPhone into vs. treo intro
With some info being leaked or rumored months ago regarding iPhone, what do users think having a model introduced then having to wait 6months
or having spy pix of 680/750 and never really knowing when it will come out. Is one marketing plan/intro better?
- 01-10-2007, 12:10 PM #2
It's really quite simple. Everyone knows what an iPod is. How many people know what a Treo is? Apple can announce now and ppl will be itching to get one for six months. Apple's iPod following is much more enthusiastic than Treo's following, imo.
- 01-10-2007, 12:15 PM #3
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- 01-10-2007, 12:36 PM #6
You think maybe Palm & MS might need to reconsider the 240 x 240 resolution now?
- 01-10-2007, 12:48 PM #7
All of these threads are the exact proof why apple can do this. If apple had submitted the FCC paperwork, everyone would have seen pictures and features, thereby stealing the thunder of the unveiling. It would have been yesterdays news. Now people have to wait which will increase specualtion and hope. Hopefully it will not disappoint when it actually releases.
Apple is just take a page from the new girl in school that will not go all the way. Hopefully it will not be disappointing.
So I feel the hype will grow and grow, while we all wait.
- 01-10-2007, 12:50 PM #8
Apple doesn't have to take away all of the Treo sales. It only has to take a few away. The greater the sales volume for the Treo, the better for Palm--the sale of that 500,000th unit has greater profit than the sale of the 4th, because fixed costs have been absorbed.
Palm will not die from the iPhone alone. Palm will die from slowly being starved of oxygen from a bunch of competitors, each of whom takes a small slice of the market. They'll lose unit sales to Apple. They'll lose unit sales to HTC. They'll lose unit sales to Nokia. Then they'll wake up and realize that Treo sales are flat or growth is anemic.
At that point Palm will either need to pull a rabbit out of their corporate (ahem) hat or go the long slow death of small incremental changes to an existing platform while trying to squeeze costs in order to maintain profit margins. And a business focused on cost control ultimately dies. It's the top line that matters. If you ain't getting dollars in the door it doesn't really matter that your corporate controller throws nickels around like manhole covers.
Long term prognosis for Palm: (1) I will buy an unlocked 750 when they're available, so Mr. Colligan can buy a sandwich for lunch that week, but (2) look for an LBO or merger within 18 months. Betting pool, anyone?
- 01-10-2007, 12:50 PM #9
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- 01-10-2007, 01:16 PM #12
Take a look at the LifeDrive then look at the iPhone. Similar, aren't they? Palm could have taken the LifeDrive with its huge screen, "one button" (okay, a five-way pad).. built-in WiFi, and turned it into a Palm "iPhone" a long time ago. Although Apple's market share of computers is tiny, they totally dominate the portable music player market and everyone and his monkey makes an iPod wannabee. Like someone said earlier, everyone knows what an iPod is. How much of the population knows what a Treo is?
After watching Steve Jobs' hour and a half long iPhone presentation on apple.com yesterday I thought to myself "this thing is pure sex." His hyperbole about being "five years ahead of everyone else" is typical marketing baloney, but it is a very compelling device. But the problems are still there. It'll be a Cingular exclusive for some number of years. My Treos are on Sprint. I don't want or need a Cingular plan with yet another monthly bill. The iPhone seems to have no card slot; sure it has a ton of internal memory but if I recorded an .mp4 with my Neuros recorder and wanted to play it on an iPhone, I'd have to suck it off the Neuros' SD card with a computer, then dock the iPhone and copy it over with iTunes. Bleah. With a Treo, I can literally yank the card out of the Neuros and shove it in the Treo and play a full-length movie or anything else I've recorded
The iPhone runs MacOS X but does it run programs other than what comes built into it? Or is it a closed system that's just a sub-set of MacOS X?
That huge screen looked pretty glossy. With operation totally limited to your fingertips, is it going to get covered with finger prints or will there be a huge aftermarket in anti-glare matte-finish screen protectors for it and how will it behave with a screen protector?
You gotta hand it to Steve Jobs. Whatever else he might be, he sure knows how to play to a crowd. If you watch the iPhone keynote, compare his on-stage personna with those of the other company suits who come up on stage.
If Cingular offered the iPhone with JUST a data plan (which I'm sure they won't..) .. or a tiny, cheap 100 minutes a month voice plan with unlimited data at a reasonable price, ($50.00 a month or less..) .. I'd seriously consider getting one despite my promise to myself that after Jobs killed off the Newton in 1998 he'd never get a cent out of me
And when he was showing off the iPod features of the iPhone and brought up Sgt. Pepper's and played a couple tracks, I thought to myself what irony - Apple Corps. Ltd., the Beatles' company, sued Apple Computers over the name Apple a long time ago. And there's Steve Jobs showing off his new gizmo in front of four thousand people with Beatles' music.
And how about that prank call to Starbucks?
- 01-10-2007, 04:10 PM #13
- 01-11-2007, 08:13 PM #14
Palm doesn't follow through...
Palm doesn't innovate, they just crap all over Handspring's T600 coattails...
Palm is a pathetic creature of habit in it's insistance to consistently disappoint it's once-fiercely-loyal customer base.
Apple follows through... and gives you more than you expected.
Apple is wildly innovative and is a fantastic trend setter
When is the last time they let anyone down... that's right, never... ever.
Do you currently hold Palm stock?
Dump it fast.
- 01-11-2007, 08:16 PM #15
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- 01-12-2007, 12:14 PM #19
It's taken them nearly ten years to truly replace the Newton with the iPhone (which you can't even buy yet, although I have no doubt they'll sell a boatload of them.. at least to folks who can stomach switching to Cingular since they'll have a multi-year exclusive on it..) ..
So nah, Apple has never let anyone down. It was all just a bad dream. Never happened