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  1. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    As stated in the thread title, if Apple had included a lightning port on the Watch, do you think upgrading watchOS would be faster, in your opinion? I think it would be.
    07-25-2017 10:32 AM
  2. thedonp's Avatar
    I think the processor has something to do with it
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    07-25-2017 10:41 AM
  3. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    I think the main problem is the Apple Watch doesn’t have wifi of its own. Sure updating would be still be better with a lightning cable since you could download the update to your computer first. Same goes for AppleTV though, if it had a web browser or a way to install a beta profile, updates would be much faster there as well.
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    07-25-2017 10:41 AM
  4. Tartarus's Avatar
    As stated in the thread title, if Apple had included a lightning port on the Watch, do you think upgrading watchOS would be faster, in your opinion? I think it would be.
    It would be significantly faster.
    The 2.4GHz connection for wifi and the current Bluetooth speeds are not sufficient to allow faster upgrades.

    I don’t think Apple will ever include a lightning port in the watch because this will only add to the thickness.

    Hopefully the series 3 will provide a much faster upgrade experience.
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    07-25-2017 11:14 AM
  5. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    It would be significantly faster.
    The 2.4GHz connection for wifi and the current Bluetooth speeds are not sufficient to allow faster upgrades.

    I don’t think Apple will ever include a lightning port in the watch because this will only add to the thickness.

    Hopefully the series 3 will provide a much faster upgrade experience.
    Let’s hope so. The current upgrade mechanism is abysmal, in my opinion.
    07-25-2017 11:16 AM
  6. scruffypig's Avatar
    I think the main problem is the Apple Watch doesn’t have wifi of its own. Sure updating would be still be better with a lightning cable since you could download the update to your computer first. Same goes for AppleTV though, if it had a web browser or a way to install a beta profile, updates would be much faster there asspeaker well.
    I thought my Apple Watch series 2 had Wi-Fi. I may be misunderstanding of the way it works, though the tech specs say:

    Wi-Fi. 802.11b/g/n 2.4 GHz
    Bluetooth. Bluetooth 4.0
    NFC. NFC (all) FeliCa (Japan)
    Location. Built‑in GPS
    Audio In. Direct fire microphone
    Audio Out. Direct fire
    07-25-2017 03:51 PM
  7. Tartarus's Avatar
    I think the main problem is the Apple Watch doesn’t have wifi of its own. Sure updating would be still be better with a lightning cable since you could download the update to your computer first. Same goes for AppleTV though, if it had a web browser or a way to install a beta profile, updates would be much faster there as well.
    It sure does have wifi of its own.
    I once forgot my phone at home and still could get iMessages and FaceTime calls.

    https://support.apple.com/kb/sp736?locale=en_US
    07-25-2017 03:53 PM
  8. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    It sure does have wifi of its own.
    I once forgot my phone at home and still could get iMessages and FaceTime calls.

    https://support.apple.com/kb/sp736?locale=en_US
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...029b951458.png
    Pseudo-wifi. It will default to a 2.4Ghz band your iPhone has been connected to before if it can’t connect via Bluetooth. I just looked it up after this. You can’t go into any settings on your watch to connect to wifi. Even if you could, it still poses the same problem as AppleTV. Which is that there is no web browser to download the profile from and update. Again, yes, having a lightning cable and downloading to your computer is still faster than the current offering.
    07-25-2017 04:06 PM
  9. Tartarus's Avatar
    Pseudo-wifi. It will default to a 2.4Ghz band your iPhone has been connected to before if it can’t connect via Bluetooth. I just looked it up after this. You can’t go into any settings on your watch to connect to wifi. Even if you could, it still poses the same problem as AppleTV. Which is that there is no web browser to download the profile from and update. Again, yes, having a lightning cable and downloading to your computer is still faster than the current offering.
    You would only need the profile once. And then initiate an update from the watch itself. But this is only hypothetical as it’s not possible yet.
    watchOS 4 and the built-in GPS on series 2 made the watch a little more a stand-alone device, but only for workouts and hikes.

    But if you consider the fact that the Apple Watch is originally designed as an extension of the iPhone, it’s pretty good at what it’s supposed to do.
    Save for battery life and a little slowness of the first gen Watch, the series 2 didn’t have much added value.
    I’m holding off until series 3.

    Given the fact that official updates for the watch only get released with long intervals, a 2 hours for an update is actually manageable, albeit not convenient, but regardless, manageable.
    07-25-2017 04:13 PM
  10. scruffypig's Avatar
    It sure does have wifi of its own.
    I once forgot my phone at home and still could get iMessages and FaceTime calls.

    https://support.apple.com/kb/sp736?locale=en_US
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...029b951458.png
    I am pretty sure this has happened to me also. I am going to give this a trial tonight.

    Would love to see a lightning port too, like the Beats headphones, but maybe Apple is figuring out water resistance.
    Last edited by scruffypig; 07-25-2017 at 05:34 PM.
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    07-25-2017 05:23 PM
  11. doogald's Avatar
    A lightning port would take up a lot of internal space. I can't believe that will happen anytime soon. There is already a proprietary (though unusable) port on the watch, just under the bottom strap holder with the buttons to the right, for apple's use.

    https://9to5mac.com/2015/05/04/opini...idden-for-now/
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    07-26-2017 06:29 AM
  12. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    A lightning port would take up a lot of internal space. I can't believe that will happen anytime soon. There is already a proprietary (though unusable) port on the watch, just under the bottom strap holder with the buttons to the right, for apple's use.

    https://9to5mac.com/2015/05/04/opini...idden-for-now/
    I recall reading about that not long after getting my watch.
    07-26-2017 06:32 AM
  13. Quis89's Avatar
    The download of the update itself would be faster, sure. But the installation time wouldn't change much, I don't think. The processor controls that. I personally wouldn't want a lightning port. I imagine it would take up space that could be used for something else. I like the flexibility of the current update options not having to be tethered to anything. If there were an option of the current update option, and Apple adding a lightning port, I'd rather them leave it as is.
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    08-22-2017 11:19 AM
  14. newtoios's Avatar
    Why doesn’t Apple use WiFi direct?

    When I had a Samsung gear, it used WiFi direct and it was much much faster downloading updates and music.

    Downloading music to the Apple Watch is beyond painfully slow.
    10-05-2017 09:44 AM
  15. ItnStln's Avatar
    Why doesn’t Apple use WiFi direct?

    When I had a Samsung gear, it used WiFi direct and it was much much faster downloading updates and music.

    Downloading music to the Apple Watch is beyond painfully slow.
    Great question
    10-05-2017 11:14 AM

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