1. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Theater...this is definitely worth theater price.
    I made it a point to not watch the torrent and sit comfortably in a reclining seat at a theater to see this.
    01-19-2015 01:26 PM
  2. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    They called this man a killer in some of these hateful reviews...this is humorous to me, because if you call him a killer, then you must call every person who has ever thrown the switch on a death penalty a "killer", every cop who has ever saved someones life by shooting another person a "killer", every soldier that has ever taken a life in the line of duty a "killer".

    Such a strong word to label someone who did something in the line of duty. Disgusts me really, a person who uses their right that this man fought for to label him something so foul...but you know, I bet Chris Kyle would have it no other way...because he didn't do his job for the acceptance of every person who knows about it...he did it so they would have the ability TO know about it, and share an opinion about it.
    01-19-2015 05:06 PM
  3. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    They called this man a killer in some of these hateful reviews...this is humorous to me, because if you call him a killer, then you must call every person who has ever thrown the switch on a death penalty a "killer", every cop who has ever saved someones life by shooting another person a "killer", every soldier that has ever taken a life in the line of duty a "killer".

    Such a strong word to label someone who did something in the line of duty. Disgusts me really, a person who uses their right that this man fought for to label him something so foul...but you know, I bet Chris Kyle would have it no other way...because he didn't do his job for the acceptance of every person who knows about it...he did it so they would have the ability TO know about it, and share an opinion about it.
    Outstanding, and 'nuf said....
    01-19-2015 05:07 PM
  4. ctt1wbw's Avatar
    It takes zero intestinal fortitude to call a man a coward while standing on his grave. I got a 50 to watch someone do it to their face.
    01-19-2015 05:39 PM
  5. grunt0300's Avatar
    Having served as a "grunt" in Vietnam, it was Full Metal Jacket, that i ran out on at the theater. This movie won't be watched by my son-in-law for a long time. He still won't talk about Iraq or Afghanistan, or what he did as an 11Bravo, with the 10th Mountain Div. God bless our troops.
    01-19-2015 05:49 PM
  6. grunt0300's Avatar
    It must be great, I'm reading the book. But you know it's gotta be good when that fat piece of **** Michael Moore has the balls to call a dead man a "coward".

    Does ANYONE really care what Michael Moore thinks? I know one thing, he never met a cheeseburger that he didn't like.
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    01-22-2015 09:38 AM
  7. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    Why did Jesse Ventura sue him?
    01-22-2015 02:32 PM
  8. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Why did Jesse Ventura sue him?
    Daily Caller.
    01-22-2015 02:49 PM
  9. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    Whoa... I read the book. Jesse was the guy in the bar???
    01-22-2015 03:30 PM
  10. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Whoa... I read the book. Jesse was the guy in the bar???
    Rumor has it. I don't think it's been confirmed.


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    01-22-2015 03:32 PM
  11. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Kyle's estate and wife will appeal it and win...I can't believe Ventura did that, but I guess when you're a scum sucking bottom feeder, these are the kinds of opportunities you wake up hoping for. His blood sucking legal team are probably very similar to the up coming spin off show of Breaking Bad...Better Call Saul.
    01-22-2015 03:39 PM
  12. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Bring back conspiracy theory.

    Chuckles


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    Last edited by hydrogen3; 01-22-2015 at 04:18 PM.
    01-22-2015 03:41 PM
  13. grunt0300's Avatar
    Jesse Ventura talked the talk, but never walked the walk. During Vietnam, he was in the rear with the gear. Reminds me of that "swift boat" commando, named John Kerry. All that "Heinz" money, and he just had to lie about his service during Vietnam. When are these idiots going to learn that there are still plenty of us that are alive and well.
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    01-22-2015 04:22 PM
  14. zerog46's Avatar
    Jesse is definitely a scum bag.
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    01-22-2015 04:54 PM
  15. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Saw the film Tuesday night, while in Covington, La. The theater was next door to our hotel. I thought it was great. The acting was superb.
    My movie snack:
    American Sniper...-imageuploadedbytapatalk1421964079.159018.jpg

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    01-22-2015 04:59 PM
  16. joemd60's Avatar
    Thanks for the well written review Sean, I'll be sure to check it out.
    01-22-2015 05:01 PM
  17. Highrisedrifter's Avatar
    You'll have to forgive me here but I had no idea who Chris Kyle was until the controversy over American Sniper made its way over the pond to the UK.

    I've read a lot of reports about this film and Chris Kyle's autobiography and there are numerous discrepancies cited by the bloggers, researchers and reporters. If Jesse Ventura successfully sued Chris Kyle's estate for Defamation of Character, which I believe has a huge burden of proof in the US, far more than in the UK, then surely he has been proven right by law and Chris Kyle has been proven to have lied in his biography?

    This is an honest question from a foreigner, so please take this in the spirit it is intended, which is not one of antagonism or trolling in any way.
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    01-22-2015 05:05 PM
  18. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    You'll have to forgive me here but I had no idea who Chris Kyle was until the controversy over American Sniper made its way over the pond to the UK.

    I've read a lot of reports about this film and Chris Kyle's autobiography and there are numerous discrepancies cited by the bloggers, researchers and reporters. If Jesse Ventura successfully sued Chris Kyle's estate for Defamation of Character, which I believe has a huge burden of proof in the US, far more than in the UK, then surely he has been proven right by law and Chris Kyle has been proven to have lied in his biography?

    This is an honest question from a foreigner, so please take this in the spirit it is intended, which is not one of antagonism or trolling in any way.
    Not really, no...defamation essentially says that he, quite simply, defamed Jesse Ventura by stating that he punched him in a bar for anti-American sentiments. Jesse Ventura is a well known nut case...he was an actor, turned extremist political figure, and then became a governor (which I still remember people being completely baffled by and laughed about because it was, almost assuredly due to his financial ability and popularity from his celebrity life...much like Ahhhhhnold in California).

    The actions listed in the book could have been 110% factually accurate and provable, and Ventura could still sue for defamation...it's kind of a sleazy type of suit most times because it means that the person did something defaming, another person referenced it, and they don't like the fact that it was made public. There are cases where it's done under situations where the event was totally false, but those are usually followed with other types of suits, not just this one.

    At the end of the day, Chris Kyle became very popular due to his service in the military and his autobiography...he made a lot of money from it, and because movie rights were purchased with big names attached (Clint Eastwood, Bradley Cooper, Sienna Miller), Ventura's legal team saw an opportunity for easy money, and went after his estate.

    It's despicable in my opinion.

    As far as the discrepancies you mentioned you read about...I'm sure there are things that people have different accounts of, every story has multiple view points. From what I've read though, the people who spent the most time with Kyle, even people who were not overly fond of him, said that his accounts were extremely accurate and represented very fairly. We may not ever know what is 100% truth, but honestly, what does he have to misrepresent? What purpose would it have served?

    Also, what purpose would it have served the film makers to misrepresent the book? I mean the source material was Chris Kyle's own book...movies will be dramatized and sensationalized for entertainment value, but so far, I haven't read anything that stood out to me as a legitimate misrepresentation or discrepancy...mainly just agenda pushers trying to poke holes in a very successful bio-pic.
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    01-22-2015 06:07 PM
  19. Highrisedrifter's Avatar
    Thanks for the comprehensive reply, Sean, I appreciate that.
    01-22-2015 08:14 PM
  20. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Thanks for the comprehensive reply, Sean, I appreciate that.
    I'd also like to say that in no way am I representing that the story written for the movie or the book he wrote is 100% factual...I personally have no idea, but I do hold a very special respect for our brothers in arms who serve this country the way Chris Kyle did. Soldiers, throughout generations, get sh*t on for their service because of people's opinions on the wars they are fighting in. They become the targets because they are a more intimate focal point...people essentially get bored trying to focus their anger on the government itself because it's kind of a faceless entity...making it easier to look at an individual soldier who stands out amongst the rest as a face of either good or evil.

    If someone had a legitimate story to tell against Kyle's own, I would listen, but it had better be good...
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    01-22-2015 08:56 PM
  21. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    The actions listed in the book could have been 110% factually accurate and provable, and Ventura could still sue for defamation....
    The only problem for Ventura or for that matter anyone suing for defamation, as I understand our judicial system, is that the burden of proof lies with the accuser. In this case, Ventura.

    Yet he won..... I wonder how he did it.
    01-22-2015 09:19 PM
  22. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    The only problem for Ventura or for that matter anyone suing for defamation, as I understand our judicial system, is that the burden of proof lies with the accuser. In this case, Ventura.

    Yet he won..... I wonder how he did it.
    I don't think he actually "won", it listed that the jury was deadlocked...but the judged forced the issue and demanded a judgement. If a jury, looking at this from a neutral respect, couldn't come up with a decision without being prodded...it would seem the spectacle of the case played into the judges decision to call the jury back after being hung (which would normally be a mistrial or call for a retrial).

    Honestly, after reading the info on it...it seems like some fishy BS the way the jury was forced into a verdict, considering the normal protocol of deadlocked juries.

    Also, I'd be willing to put money on the fact that the wife will appeal and win, then probably counter sue for court costs and they'll reach an unnamed settlement where neither party concedes to damages and they walk away. Personally, I think it was a way for Ventura to get back in the media spotlight in some way.
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    01-22-2015 09:53 PM
  23. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    I don't think he actually "won", it listed that the jury was deadlocked...but the judged forced the issue and demanded a judgement. If a jury, looking at this from a neutral respect, couldn't come up with a decision without being prodded...it would seem the spectacle of the case played into the judges decision to call the jury back after being hung (which would normally be a mistrial or call for a retrial).

    Honestly, after reading the info on it...it seems like some fishy BS the way the jury was forced into a verdict, considering the normal protocol of deadlocked juries.

    Also, I'd be willing to put money on the fact that the wife will appeal and win, then probably counter sue for court costs and they'll reach an unnamed settlement where neither party concedes to damages and they walk away. Personally, I think it was a way for Ventura to get back in the media spotlight in some way.
    The NYT reported it was 8-2 with the jury. Regardless, I enjoyed the book and look forward to seeing the movie.

    Is it right up there with Fury and SPR??


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    01-22-2015 10:22 PM
  24. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    The NYT reported it was 8-2 with the jury. Regardless, I enjoyed the book and look forward to seeing the movie.

    Is it right up there with Fury and SPR??


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    Meh...at the end of the day, I could care less why Ventura did it...my opinion that he's a nut case far precedes his actions against the Kyle family.

    Better than both in my opinion...there was an intensity and perfect total length that really played into my enjoyment of the movie. Fury was great but I feel had too much star power to be 100% enveloped in the story (and let's face it, Brad Pitt was the same character in Fury as he was in Inglorious Basterds, sans humor).

    Saving Private Ryan is fantastic, but a bit long winded. That's the only complaint I've ever had about that movie.
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    01-23-2015 01:29 AM
  25. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    People in the pro wrestling industry don't even have good things to say about Ventura. He has always been a babbler dating back to his even pre-wwf days in the Indy circuit. Everyone thinks he's full of crap.
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    01-23-2015 10:49 AM
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