Touch ID, Am I missing something?

[iEd]

As far as iPhone touch ID is concerned more secure just means an added level of security in my opinion. There's always the possibility of added security being compromised. Just enjoy the technology.

 

[Fausty82]

Yes, you did increase the security but you didn't need Touch ID to do that. That's my point. Touch ID simply made it more convenient.

True. Human nature being what it is, people will follow flowing water to the path of least resistance. The fact that TouchID DOES make it easier for the phone owner (the one with the "biometric password" attached to their finger) to get into their phone with a more secure password in place. THAT is a good thing. In fact, activating TouchID actually requires the user to setup, at a minimum, a 4-digit passcode, making their previously unsecured iPhone more secure.

I sometimes will text or respond to a text while sitting at a stop light. (I don’t EVER text while the car is moving.) Having an 8-12 digit password takes too long to enter and still leave time for a quick text/response in the allotted time. But having the TouchID option, I can set a long, more secure password, and STILL do the needful quickly and conveniently.

 

[warcraftWidow]

Karenkcoulter and RayHollister. What both of you did was to make your phone more secure by creating a non-simple passcode. You didn't need Touch ID for that. You could have done that on the 5C. What Touch ID added for you was convenience, not additional security. That's my point.

Well, of course, but I'm not going to use a long complicated passcode for the 100s of times a day I unlock my phone. A 4 digit one was bad enough. And for the 50%+ of people who never had a passcode at all, having TouchId makes them have a passcode and that makes their device more secure than it was before.

 

[warcraftWidow]

I'm sorry but none of this is true. The cats paw was registered just like a finger, as was the nipple. As for scotch tape, I'm not sure where you got that. If you are referring to the German hacker group, there were a dozen steps involved. I don't even recall if they used tape.

And it took them lots of money in equipment and about 30 hours.

 

[dnbush]

And for the 50%+ of people who never had a passcode at all, having TouchId makes them have a passcode and that makes their device more secure than it was before.

Now in that case yes, Touch ID makes the phone for those people more secure.

 

[EauRouge]

I had no idea it was like this. How silly.

I suppose the only reason its more secure is that people wont see you enter your passcode that often...

 

[Fausty82]

I had no idea it was like this. How silly.

I suppose the only reason its more secure is that people wont see you enter your passcode that often...

Not true. While they won’t see you enter a passcode that you don’t enter... as Karen and I have both said, using TouchID requires that you add a passcode. Many (most?) people don’t use any kind of security on their phones, despite the fact that they contain an awful lot of personal information that, in the wrong hands, can cause you a lot of grief.

 

[jsntrenkler]

I am thankful for the pass code back up.

 

[neurodave]

I have a 9 digit passcode on my 5s.

99% of the time, my fingers are enough. (How many times have I heard that before) :cant-watch:

 

[iririr]

If you burn or cut your finger, you won't be able to login.....what do you want to do then? i am sure you'll appreciate the alternative form of entry then.

 

[iririr]

If you burn or cut your finger and have to put a bandaid on it...do you expect to take the bandaid off everytime you want to login to your phone?

 

[Fausty82]

If you burn or cut your finger, you won't be able to login.....what do you want to do then? i am sure you'll appreciate the alternative form of entry then.

Type the passcode. Then train it to use a different finger.

Problem solved...

 

[theKHMERboy]

what i think about the touch id is that apple is introducing it to the world and right now it is still new so i dont think it can be too secure right now but it is a great way to start.. i am interested to see how this touch id is gonna mature along the years

 

[iOS Gravity]

I just got my 5S and as I was setting up the Touch ID I seem to have discovered something that I hadn't read about.

You see, I understand and agree that using our fingerprints is a more secure way of identifying us to our phones; more secure than a simple passcode. So given that and the understanding that Touch ID was being marketed as making access to our phones more secure, I was surprised to see that you can fail at having the phone recognize your fingerprint and it will default to your passcode. Three unsuccessful attempts and you're presented with the passcode screen

In fact you can simply hit the home button once and slide to reveal the passcode screen.

Am I missing a setting some where? Seems to me that if you want access to be more secure than a passcode the phone should have the ability to allow access *only* via fingerprint.

As it is, if my phone is lost/stolen or even borrowed without me knowing, it's just like having a non-Touch ID phone. No more secure.

So my question is, am I missing something or is Touch ID just a convenience and not meant to make access more secure (at least not yet)?

During the keynote, they said that they found out that over 50% of owners don't have a pin simply since its inconvenient. So they made touch id. People now have to put a password use touch id. The password is the main thing and the touch id is a convenience.

 

[nokia4life]

I really don't like the idea of my fingerprint being saved on my phone. I don't know, that's just me. I also don't think it would be as secure as a pin.

What tha it's just as secure in my own opinion it double down passcode and secure id vs just passcode single access point


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[JHBThree]

bitshifter1001, true or not is irrelevant. Apple presented this technology (intentionally or not) as making your iPhone more secure. My contention is that it doesn't. These stories, true or not, exist for the most part because of that claim of enhanced security. Basically, Apple said it's more secure and folks out there said, "Oh yeah? Well, we'll see about that!" and proceeded to try to show that its not.

Apple never advertised it as more secure. Ever.

 

[markhunsaker]

I use a more complex pass code now because I don't have to type it in every time.


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[scottdoc718]

If you burn or cut your finger and have to put a bandaid on it...do you expect to take the bandaid off everytime you want to login to your phone?

You can store multiple fingers. If you cut one, use a differrent one.