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You can be distracted by children in the car, which in turn can result in a fatal accident...does this make driving with children in the car the same as driving drunk?

To associate drunk drivers and those who do other things while driving (text, talk, eat, etc) is asinine, period.

Have you ever changed a radio station on your car radio while driving? Or reached in the back seat to grab something and took your eyes off the road? In these instances should one be compared to a drunk driver? If you think so, you're foolish and a hypocrite.

As a law enforcement officer, I spend most of my days on the road, and the truth is, most of the accidents that occur happen because most people on the road don't have the first clue on how to react offensively to a dangerous situation...those of you who want to support the no texting while driving cause and accuse people of being dangerous drivers should focus on education and reaction vs just texting, I guarantee you that it'll save more lives AND, in the effort of killing two birds with one stone, it will keep those who can't mentally multitask well enough to BE safe while texting and driving, you'll keep them too busy observing and focusing to want to text while they drive!
 
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Well said I agree with this 100%

You can be distracted by children in the car, which in turn can result in a fatal accident...does this make driving with children in the car the same as driving drunk?

To associate drunk drivers and those who do other things while driving (text, talk, eat, etc) is asinine, period.

Have you ever changed a radio station on your car radio while driving? Or reached in the back seat to grab something and took your eyes off the road? In these instances should one be compared to a drunk driver? If you think so, you're foolish and a hypocrite.

As a law enforcement officer, I spend most of my days on the road, and the truth is, most of the accidents that occur happen because most people on the road don't have the first clue on how to react offensively to a dangerous situation...those of you who want to support the no texting while driving cause and accuse people of being dangerous drivers should focus on education and reaction vs just texting, I guarantee you that it'll save more lives AND, in the effort of killing two birds with one stone, it will keep those who can't mentally multitask well enough to BE safe while texting and driving, you'll keep them too busy observing and focusing to want to text while they drive!
 

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Also, just to get the facts out there, there are a million studies showing a million variants of factors which decrease your ability to drive safely...

One in particular studied the effects of men who have consumed large quantities of salt before driving...their increased blood pressure and metabolism has shown a decrease in reaction times of the brain during alert response situations...one example being driving a car.

So if you want to quote studies, take a look at how many there are in which driving ability and alertness were the studies main results.
 

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All of the studies show that everyone, yes everyone, that texts while driving is at a higher risk of being in an accident, even your so called multitaskers. Most are up to 5 times as likely to be in an accident. Please tell me what on God's green is so important to raise that risk even .01%. I guarantee anything that what you are going to text can wait till your not driving. And if it can't you can pull over any time. Why is this such a debate? Stop texting while driving, no one loses everyone wins. Text while driving someone will lose.

Even if your that special person that can text and drive with no additional risk ( does not exist) should you? No! Because others want to be that special person too. People would want to emulate you and sadly would find out the hard way that they are not.


See, a rational response without any issues. Someone I can communicate with. I think that if I got a text that said my parents died, I would answer and say what happened. Or that a spouse is having a baby, or a lot of different things. You cannot tell me that you have never done anything at all that has increased your risk ever. Ever change the radio station? Or a kid screaming in the back while you reached around to slap them?

There are distractions no matter what. We all take risks in our lives driving. You choose yours, I choose mine. Just remember, if you're ever in Houston....watch out for me. lol
 

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I think your taking this grammar thing a little to far. Calling people morons on a forum makes you more of a moron then bad grammar my friend. I don't agree with him taking the drivers phone..... I actually agreed with your point more...... But you need serious help if your so worried about grammar. And yea it is the "internet" this might surprise you but most don't care about grammar on the net.
And seriously if your SOOOO concerned about grammar maybe you shouldn't be texting when driving :rolleyes:

Well, I guess I have to comment on your lack of comprehension skills, as well. My stance in this thread all along is that texting while driving is as dumb as drinking and driving. Also, I didn't call the poster a moron, I said that they come off as one because they can't string one sentence together correctly. So save your :rolleyes: for a topic that you can actually understand.

Say what you want about the lax nature of an internet message board, but no matter where you are or what you're doing- the manner in which you do it speaks of you as a person. So, if a person wants to continually use bad grammar in posts they shouldn't be offended when others believe them to be an idiot.
 
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Your trying to hard.... is grammar the only thing you have going for yourself?
Bottom line is no one here needs You to point out grammar mistakes . And your point of view of "people come off like morons" because they didn't wright a post like they would a legal document is just ridiculous.

If you don't like a persons grammar or way of speaking pass to the next post. Or join a grammar forum and enjoy correcting people.

We are talking about texting when driving and your crying about grammar... before you advise people of there lack comprehension...learn how to focus and stay on topic.

Can't focus, extremely concerned about grammar.... I really hope you NEVER text an drive

Well, I guess I have to comment on your lack of comprehension skills, as well. My stance in this thread all along is that texting while driving is as dumb as drinking and driving. Also, I didn't call the poster a moron, I said that they come off as one because they can't string one sentence together correctly. So save your :rolleyes: for a topic that you can actually understand.

Say what you want about the lax nature of an internet message board, but no matter where you are or what you're doing- the manner in which you do it speaks of you as a person. So, if a person wants to continually use bad grammar in posts they shouldn't be offended when others believe them to be an idiot.
 
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I really hate going off topic but the relation to a person's online grammar in comparison with their real life intelligence level is like comparing a person's morality based on the choices they make while playing grand theft auto on the xbox.

The fact of the matter is, when you steer off into that type of response instead of continually backing your argument, it just goes against your credibility.
 

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All distractions are a choice, kids in the back seat changing a radio station and so forth, my point is why choose to be distracted. All of these things can be eliminated. You can ignore the kids turn off the radio or let it play and you can choose not to text. Why do people feel it is their right to increase the risk of an accident that would involve the people around you?

To the point about proper response in an emergency... That is a totally different topic. My point is if you can stay focused and increase your response time then you'll be less likely to make an inappropriate emergency maneuver.

Again this post was not about all if these other distractions, this post was about people choosing to text while driving. It is a bad choice. Even if my spouse were having a baby, that text will wait. By waiting a few minutes I might prevent that child from being fatherless

Let's stay on topic. Comparisons to other distractions are fine but let's not forget that we're talking about a text that can be ignored and when you are texting the response time has been compared to that of a drunk driver. And everyones response time is worse while texting. Some are worse than others, true. How does that make me a hypocrite or asinine?

When you are driving a 3000lb hunk of metal and you choose not to focus on it's trajectory it turns into a weapon rather than a vehicle.
 
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You're asinine by comparing those who text and drive to those that drink and drive...and a hypocrite to discredit/ignore things you probably do Yourself that can be equally or more so distracting than texting and driving, sure, the post is about texting and driving but you're in here calling out those that do it like you're a saint driver...did you know that studies have shown if your hands arnt at 10 and 2 that you're more likely to respond in steering inaccurately, thus standing a higher chance of having an accident?

Now be honest with yourself, do you drive at 10 and 2 100% of the time? If not, you're knowingly creating a potential fatal accident! Watch out world!

Bottom line is bud, if you feel so strongly about it, don't do it...people still don't wear seatbelts all the time, which I think is ridiculous, but I'm not out there trying to save the world on a white stalion, sword in hand calling them stupid, it is what it is.
 

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If you don't like this thread, by all means bypass it. No one is forcing you to read it. I am not in your face so chill out. You don't know how I drive. Butsince your interested I'll tell you. I don't listen to the radio because I like to hear the engine. I don't talk to my passengers because I don't want to be distracted and I definitly do not text and drive nor do I talk on the phone and drive. I also do not keep my hands at 10 and 2 100% of the time because it's a manual. And I do not go more than 3 miles over the speed limit. All of these practices I do come from experience. When I was 16 I drove like you. But now I know better and I care about my fellow humans. I do not try and save the world I just wanted to share my experience and you are welcome to ignore it as I'll ignore your insults
 

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You've never been ABLE to drive like me bud, i assure you of that...so dont go comparing my driving ability to a 16 year olds, im in my 30's, ive had more driving training than you could ever imagine, forgive me for being able to drive a car beyond your own ability while doing other things, im sorry you're incapable of doing the same.

And do you want a cookie for being captain drive safe? Pfft...give me a break sweetheart, you sound like a fool on a high horse now, and its hilarious.

As far as bypassing the thread, why would i do that? I am interested in the subject matter...especially how ridiculously asinine some of your comparison's are...you're coming across as a very sheltered individual...have you ever seen a drunk driver before? Scraped one off the pavement? I have...do i want a cookie and a thumbs up for it? Hell no, it was awful...and in that, do i agree that texting while driving CAN be dangerous? I absolutely do, especially for people who cant drive in the first place...but to compare a drunk driver to one texting just shows your lack of legitimate deduction...you place a person (drunk) who is 100% impaired while driving and you say that it exactly the same as a person who is texting who MIGHT be impaired...

You're bull headed opinion has taken over your logic buddy, and then you assume things, like your ability to drive better than another person because you dont make certain choices like texting, speeding, radio, distractions...when i guarantee you that i could text with one hand, eat a burger with the other hand and steer with my knee and still drive at a higher level than yourself, because i have been trained and get paid very well to do so...are all people who text and drive in this boat? Absolutely not, but in that, who are you to prejudge and assume they are/are not capable of driving just as well/safely as you while distractions exist?

Your whole argument resides in the fact that you feel you are the perfect driver and what YOU feel is unsafe applies to everyone in the world, and if YOU cant/dont do it, then nobody else in the world should either (if they want to be as saintly as you behind the wheel).

Come down off the cloud and back to the real world where your choices dont amount to a hill of beans, just like the rest of us...and respect the fact that other people outside your little bubble can do things you're incapable of doing in a state of safety and security that you find when you refrain from doing those same things.
 

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Your not on subject pm me if you want to try and belittle me. Im staying focused on the subject of the thread. Texting while driving is a bad idea.
 

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For someone who can't do it...

And the belittling started in your corner big guy...i was completely on topic and only asserted labels on the ideas and opinions in the thread, not the people, YOU started that up. You and your mouth make it really easy to tear apart though, just FYI...
 

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In an effort to refrain from arguing with a person who accepts nothing but his own choices as fact (as is apparently all that can happen when discussing anything like this with you)...i'll leave the thread by saying this...can texting while driving be dangerous? Absolutely...can it also be perfectly safe? Absolutely. Depends on your own abilities...maybe its too much for some.
 

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If your so sure go get tested and I'll guarantee that your reaction times will be worse than when your paying attention. I'm sure your an accomplished driver, you also seem to have out bursts that you don't have much control over. How on earth do you stay calm when someone cuts you off?
 

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I do think that an experienced adult is more cognitive in their ability to text and drive than someone perhaps 20 and under. There are always exceptions to this statement of course, as proven everyday.

In the end, drive defensively and be attentive to your surroundings. If you think texting and driving is dangerous, try driving in South America. Lima, Peru specifically.

On a side note, I didn't notice until now that I have crossed 1,000 posts. Woot!
 
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It's a funny thing about internet discussions, tone cannot be deducted from them...you see an out of control burst, i see myself laughing at some random guy as i call him out on a silly comment he made before. Interesting how this whole anti-social internet works.

When im at work, its easy to stay calm when someone cuts me off...i turn the light bar on and they get a ticket. When someone see's said light bar though, they typically refrain from cutting me off.

Like i said in the PM, you stand a much greater chance of getting into a fatal accident if you drive a car...so in your case, it is prob best to leave the car at home and take the bus! It's all relevant, you just seem to mistake opinion for fact.

And on that note...too much time spent already, done and done.
 

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In the end, drive defensively and be attentive to your surroundings. If you think texting and driving is dangerous, try driving in South America. Lima, Peru specifically.

I had the pleasure of driving in korea when stationed there 10 years ago...if you can drive PERIOD in korea, you could do cartwheels while driving here in the states.
 

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