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One question for the Apple fans

abazigal

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If Apple is an American company... How come we don't see a sense of loyalty from the Americans to the level that the Canadian people have for BlackBerry?

What kind of loyalty are we talking about here? Apple is insanely profitable, their products are fairly popular, and roughly half the US population is reported to be using iPhones. I would say that is very impressive given the intense competition and the sheer variety of smartphones available in the market.

If anything, I would argue against blind loyalty. People have a choice, and a significant number are clearly opting for Apple products, despite their higher price tags and oft-criticised closed ecosystem. I say that speaks volumes about the quality and allure of their products, when you buy it of your own free will despite all these perceived drawbacks, rather than being "guilt-tripped" into supporting a local brand out of some misguided sense of patriotism.

That said, I wish Asia could get the same benefits. Our iTunes and ibooks selection is downright abysmal. No iTunes radio even. :(
 

Speedygi

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What kind of loyalty are we talking about here? Apple is insanely profitable, their products are fairly popular, and roughly half the US population is reported to be using iPhones. I would say that is very impressive given the intense competition and the sheer variety of smartphones available in the market.

If anything, I would argue against blind loyalty. People have a choice, and a significant number are clearly opting for Apple products, despite their higher price tags and oft-criticised closed ecosystem. I say that speaks volumes about the quality and allure of their products, when you buy it of your own free will despite all these perceived drawbacks, rather than being "guilt-tripped" into supporting a local brand out of some misguided sense of patriotism.

That said, I wish Asia could get the same benefits. Our iTunes and ibooks selection is downright abysmal. No iTunes radio even. :(

I'm just saying that American consumers just don't see Apple iPhones like Canadians see Blackberries or Koreans view Samsung Galaxies. I'm also a little suspicious if Apple's brand equity had more to do with the loyalty than it being an American company and thus it holding more significance that way.

In other words, Americans are far more fickle consumers than most consumers whom companies are based in. If another company becomes more popular than Apple or Microsoft, all of the sudden they are on bad books. That's what I'm getting at.
 

iEd

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Tell me how Canadians see BB and how Koreans see the Samsung Galaxy? I really want to know.


#Naked Tuesday
 

Speedygi

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Tell me how Canadians see BB and how Koreans see the Samsung Galaxy? I really want to know.


#Naked Tuesday

They are the household names that people buy almost by default, whether they are best or not. They are not, what you'd call, fair weather fans.
 

iEd

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I see. So Americans should buy from a American company even if they feel it's not the best product and that's loyalty.



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Speedygi

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I see. So Americans should buy from a American company even if they feel it's not the best product and that's loyalty.



#Naked Tuesday

Judging from the trend, I don't think Americans grasp that concept at all.
 

iEd

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So Americans should buy say a Moto X instead of a iPhone even if they feel it isn't the best product for them. Just buy it because it's a American company.




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TiredOfPhoneWar

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How is canadian see BlackBerry ? Canadians are among those who like to put themselves in line during the iphone launching, they dont do that for BlackBerry
 

Speedygi

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So Americans should buy say a Moto X instead of a iPhone even if they feel it isn't the best product for them. Just buy it because it's a American company.




#Naked Tuesday

Because they have no loyalty lol. They'd sooner buy a Korean product.
 

iEd

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Sure if they feel the Korean product is best.
As a consumer don't you want what you feel is the best you can afford?


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Speedygi

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Okay let's put it this way: anti Samsung sentiment in Korea is far less than anti Apple sentiment in USA.
 

shief24

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They are the household names that people buy almost by default, whether they are best or not. They are not, what you'd call, fair weather fans.

I'm sorry but blackberry was a household name. Now it isn't at least from my part of Toronto. I only know two people with blackberries and they're both upgrading soon. On campus and in lectures I also see samsungs and iPhones and sometimes see a legacy bb. So please everybody don't think us Canadians are here wearing blackberry tees.
 

BlackBerry Guy

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As Canadians, I think we often struggle to to describe what exactly the Canadian identity is. We are a relatively young, very multicultural country. As a part of that search into what we are, we tend to identify with things that we're good at or enjoy (ie. Hockey) or homegrown success stories that have gotten known on a bigger stage (ie. BlackBerry, the Canadarm etc.)

I'm a proud Canadian, I want BlackBerry to be successful. I want them to turn it around. But I'm not going to buy their product just because they are headquartered in Waterloo, Ontario. What they put out has to be able to meet my needs and wants. It's been frustrating seeing all their misfires over the last few years...one of the reasons I now have a couple of iOS and Android devices in my stable as well.
 

si001

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Im canadian, i dont know people using blackberry around me, its all iphone and android, BB pay tax to the govt? Me i do, I owe BB nothing and BB owe me nothing and my car is German made , my point is i choose the best.

The best for you may not be the best for me.
Chose the device you enjoy and be happy with it.
 

Oofa

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If Apple is an American company... How come we don't see a sense of loyalty from the Americans to the level that the Canadian people have for BlackBerry?

Americans end up being loyal to companies that serve their needs. Not everyone needs or wants Apple products. Americans have a mentality and way of life that entertains many "choices" and they use that advantage in many instances. That's why so many people want to live in the U.S. Lots and lots of choices. I think it's a much bigger deal to Canadians that BlackBerry is Canadian than it is to Americans that Apple is American.
 

mynameis

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So Americans should buy say a Moto X instead of a iPhone even if they feel it isn't the best product for them. Just buy it because it's a American company.




#Naked Tuesday

Speaking of the Moto X, I have heard that it's a pretty darn good phone.
 

Jacob Jack

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Yes I agree with above comment.
I bet, apple has a higher market share in US than worldwide.
 
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