Netflix co-CEO thinks Apple Vision Pro "isn't relevant to most of our members" — but stops short of ruling out a native app entirely

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Apple Vision Pro isn't relevant to most Apple users either. Too expensive.

Too expensive?

Same thing was said about Macs, powermacs, PowerBooks, iMacs, iPods, iPhones, iPads, AirPods, Apple Watches, and even the polishing cloth.
 

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Too expensive?

Same thing was said about Macs, powermacs, PowerBooks, iMacs, iPods, iPhones, iPads, AirPods, Apple Watches, and even the polishing cloth.

Buy you a set then. Most people can't afford to pay $3,500 for those things. Most people can't afford $1,400 for an iPhone. Most people don't have an iMac.
 

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Buy you a set then. Most people can't afford to pay $3,500 for those things. Most people can't afford $1,400 for an iPhone. Most people don't have an iMac.

Over 100 million users on a Mac, with Apple selling 28 million Macs a year.
Over 1.5 billion iPhone users, with Apple selling 229 million iPhones a year. Seems to be plenty of consumers that do.

It’s ironic because Apple was and has always been mocked for being on the far side of the pricing curve. They have been selling a $5999 display with a $999 display stand for a while now.

Or a set of wheels for the Mac Pro.
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Over 100 million users on a Mac, with Apple selling 28 million Macs a year.
Over 1.5 billion iPhone users, with Apple selling 229 million iPhones a year. Seems to be plenty of consumers that do.

It’s ironic because Apple was and has always been mocked for being on the far side of the pricing curve. They have been selling a $5999 display with a $999 display stand for a while now.

Or a set of wheels for the Mac Pro.
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100 million is not most people in the US. I said $1,400 iPhones. I don't even have one that cost $1,400. Again, $3,500 is too much, and most people will agree.

For desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft's Windows is the most used at 73%, followed by Apple's macOS at 16%, and Google's ChromeOS at 2.4% (in the US)

How many of your 100 million got theirs used at a much lower cost?
 

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100 million is not most people in the US. I said $1,400 iPhones. I don't even have one that cost $1,400. Again, $3,500 is too much, and most people will agree.

No, those are Apple users that pay Apple prices.

100 million active Mac users, a majority of which are US based.

If you want to stick to iPhones then yes the iPhone is dominating in the US and the iPhone 15 pro series makes up over 50% of iPhone shipments with the 15 pro max being the best selling model.

Where have you been.

3500 might be too much for some Apple users, but Apple already made over 700 million dollars in the first 18 minutes during preorders. It’s a weird argument you are trying to make.

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For desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft's Windows is the most used at 73%, followed by Apple's macOS at 16%, and Google's ChromeOS at 2.4% (in the US)

No offense but mobile computing surpassed traditional computing a long time ago.

You also failed to mention that the figures you are quoting has recorded windows decline by 17%. Your figures prove that windows usage is in fact contracting and not growing.

5.5 billion active mobile devices vs 1.4 billion windows devices.


How many of your 100 million got theirs used at a much lower cost?

Apple ships that many Macs every three years. Relative to a 100 million users, absolutely minuscule.

If you look at apples latest financials gross margin is around 45% and is on track to surpass 50% by the end of the year. Asp is up to about $900 for iPhones.

While there is a robust second hand market for Apple devices at a discount it is much smaller than traditional sales channels.
 

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I guess these guys and gals didn’t get the memo that the Vision Pro should only be used in a basement
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