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At what point do messages in the cloud actually back up

Just_Me_D

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So you’re saying if I delete a message from my phone it should also delete from my Mac and vice versa?

Yes sir, and vice versa. I’ve tested it after installing the latest macOS update and enabling iMessage in the cloud on my MacBook Pro, and it worked immediately.
 

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I just received the Mac-update. The new features are here. I turned iCloud on, it started to sync. Then I deleted an old message on the Mac that I still had on both the Mac and the iPhone. The message did not get deleted on the iPhone. Initiated another manual sync on the Mac, message still there on the iPhone.
Maybe because it's an old one? Maybe it will take a while? Don't know.Will wait, and try again, once an entirely new message arrives that I want to delete.

Did you enable iMessage in the cloud and is your iPhone running iOS 11.4?
 

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Ok I think I found my problem. Did not realize there was an option to enable messages in iCloud on my Mac also 🤪
 

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Received a new iMessage. It appeared on Mac and iOS. Responded to it on iOS. Response synced to the Mac. Deleted the message on the Mac. Didn't delete on IoS. Waited 5 mins, nothing. Started another sync manually on the Mac, again nothing. Message still on iOS. All devices on very strong Wifi.
Will check back tomorrow, maybe to takes time. What's strange is that deleting a message on iOS A instantly deletes the message on iOS B.

10 hours later, and the message that I deleted on my Mac is still on my iPhone.
 

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10 hours later, and the message that I deleted on my Mac is still on my iPhone.

It's working instantaneously for me. Make sure you have a strong connection... iCloud syncing services works instantly when it has a strong connection. Ensure that both devices have syncing for Messages enabled. Also try logging out and back into iCloud.
 

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I have an iPad, an iPhone, and a Mac. They are on 11.4. and on 10.13.5.
iMessage is active on all 3 devices. iCloud is active for iMessage on all 3 devices.
I logged out from iCloud on all 3 devices, and logged in again.All 3 devices were on charger, just to be sure.
All 3 devices are in a 2 meters distance from my Wifi router, signal ist very strong, and all devices are connected to the internet via Wifi.
I sent an iMessage from my Mac, and received a response, which instantly synched between the Mac and the iOS devices.
Then I deleted the message from my Mac. This was about 90 minutes ago, and the message is still on both iOS devices.
All other Wifi related activities on my Mac, my iOS devices, my TV, my home control system etc., work flawlessly, and with high speed (Netflix, Amazon, Onedrive big files transfer, iTunes downloads, turning lights on/off etc.).
It's just this new iMessage feature that doesn't work properly.
 

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P.S. I just deleted the message manually that did not delete through iCloud, on my iPhone. It instantly disappeared from the iPad.
This feels like before the upgrade to 10.13.5. on the Mac, that I made yesterday. Exactly the same behavior than before the upgrade. Deletion between iOS devices: OK. Between Mac and iOS: doesn't happen.
 

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ive had good experiences so far deletes across all devices. Its still definitely buggy alright. But i feel it works quite well overall. I also think any new messages will upload to the cloud when an cloud backup is done as i noticed after doing one the amount of messages stored in iCloud changed as there was some messages i sent after the last backup so obviously these new messages were included in the new backup and thats why the back up showed more than it did previously for messages in settings
 

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thanks. ive also noticed while doing an icloud backup my messages stored total changed so perhaps iCloud backup also helps
 

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Its still quite buggy imho. In the meanwhile, I experienced the following, on top of what I described in previous posts:

new message arrived on Mac & iPhone, not on iPad
new message that arrived everywhere, deleted on the Mac, deleted on iPad, not on iPhone
new message on all 3, deleted on iPhone, deleted on Mac, not on iPad
etc.

So it's quite unreliable, imho.
 

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Its still quite buggy imho. In the meanwhile, I experienced the following, on top of what I described in previous posts:

new message arrived on Mac & iPhone, not on iPad
new message that arrived everywhere, deleted on the Mac, deleted on iPad, not on iPhone
new message on all 3, deleted on iPhone, deleted on Mac, not on iPad
etc.

So it's quite unreliable, imho.

Thankfully, it’s been working flawlessly for me. With that being said, hopefully things will iron itself for you soon.
 

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