1. mumfoau's Avatar
    They just refuse to respect the fact that good teams find a way to win! Go Noles!!
    11-18-2014 07:20 PM
  2. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    Please lose, Missouri!


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    11-18-2014 07:23 PM
  3. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    They just refuse to respect the fact that good teams find a way to win! Go Noles!!
    Put them up against an SEC team and see if they find a way to win! I personally think they've done so good because they've only played one power house this season(and we all know how that went - there's no denying that the Irish had better talent) and the rest have been little ACC schools. Put FSU against just about any team in the top ten and I don't think they'd win.

    And yes I did defend FSU awhile back, but after I saw how poorly they played against Miami, and how they rely almost 100% on luck( like the ball that bounced up in the air and the Nole player just so happened to be able to catch it-- that's not talent, that's luck) I don't think they are worth defending.

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    11-18-2014 07:40 PM
  4. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    They look almost identical to the way they did last season...and last season, they beat Auburn, who had just freshly defeated the team everyone THOUGHT was going to win it all (Alabama). So your insinuation that the ACC is weak and the top of the ACC hasn't proven anything can be thrown out the window with proof as recent as last football season. The idea that the SEC is the "bar" set in NCAA football is comical.
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    11-18-2014 07:53 PM
  5. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    They look almost identical to the way they did last season...and last season, they beat Auburn, who had just freshly defeated the team everyone THOUGHT was going to win it all (Alabama). So your insinuation that the ACC is weak and the top of the ACC hasn't proven anything can be thrown out the window with proof as recent as last football season. The idea that the SEC is the "bar" set in NCAA football is comical.
    All I'm saying is FSU hasn't exactly played powerhouses. I'm not saying the ACC is weak, but it does have smaller schools with football programs that aren't on par with the bigger schools in the SEC. The Irish, Clemson and Louisville were the only teams FSU played that were even ranked! And Clemson was 22 at the time. And they almost lost to both. Nuff said.

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    11-18-2014 08:11 PM
  6. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    All I'm saying is FSU hasn't exactly played powerhouses. I'm not saying the ACC is weak, but it does have smaller schools with football programs that aren't on par with the bigger schools in the ACC.


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    FSU has zero top 25 wins. But that doesn't mean they're not good. I don't think they're as good as they were last year.


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    11-18-2014 08:16 PM
  7. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    SEC guy reminds me of people from New York. Ten seconds into a conversation they want you to know they're from New York. SEC guy wants you to know that if such and such played an SEC team, such and such wouldn't be such and such.
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    11-18-2014 08:43 PM
  8. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    All I'm saying is FSU hasn't exactly played powerhouses. I'm not saying the ACC is weak, but it does have smaller schools with football programs that aren't on par with the bigger schools in the SEC. The Irish, Clemson and Louisville were the only teams FSU played that were even ranked! And Clemson was 22 at the time. And they almost lost to both. Nuff said.

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    Nuff said? You're joking right? Not on par? That's laughable? Wasn't UGA that just lost to an unranked Florida? Or Auburn, who lost to an unranked Texas A&M?

    I mean if we're going to go by ranked opponents...Alabama has only played 3 ranked opponents this season, and JUST squeeked by a couple of their wins against UNRANKED teams.

    They are perfectly "on par"...the idea that the ACC is a division of "smaller schools" and implying it's inferior to the SEC is simply hilarious, and last year, the ACC proved to you why anyone who truly feels this way should reassess their biases.

    "Nuff said."
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    11-18-2014 08:43 PM
  9. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    FSU has zero top 25 wins. But that doesn't mean they're not good. I don't think they're as good as they were last year.


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    WHAT? LOL! Are you feeling ok? This is absolutely and 110% inaccurate. You should go look at the rankings of the teams they've played so far this season.

    And if you're referring to the recent playoff (former BCS) ranking...you're splitting hairs. AP rank is almost in line week to week with the official poll year in and year out.
    11-18-2014 08:45 PM
  10. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    WOAH Sean, since when are you an FSU fan? Lol


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    11-18-2014 08:53 PM
  11. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    Let's put it this way, more teams in the SEC consistently rank in the top 25 than in the ACC, am I wrong?


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    11-18-2014 08:55 PM
  12. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    WHAT? LOL! Are you feeling ok? This is absolutely and 110% inaccurate. You should go look at the rankings of the teams they've played so far this season.

    And if you're referring to the recent playoff (former BCS) ranking...you're splitting hairs. AP rank is almost in line week to week with the official poll year in and year out.
    Oh...wait, my bad. They have 1 top 25 team they have beaten. Clemson is no. 22.


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    11-18-2014 08:58 PM
  13. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Let's put it this way, more teams in the SEC consistently rank in the top 25 than in the ACC, am I wrong?


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    Some years sure...some years no. Last season the ACC had 5 ranked teams in the top 25 at the end of the season, the SEC had 6, and only because Vandy ended up rank #25 (how, I have no idea given their schedule at the end of the season...but that goes back to my argument about bias for the SEC in the old BCS).

    And no, I'm not an FSU fan...I am, however, an ACC supporter since that is where GT plays, but only when the typical drivel comes out about how "powerful" the SEC is. It's yawn inducing.
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    11-18-2014 09:03 PM
  14. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Let's put it this way, more teams in the SEC consistently rank in the top 25 than in the ACC, am I wrong?


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    No, you're not. I'm not even trying to say that the SEC isn't great. But let's not kid ourselves and act like the SEC is the be-all, end-all of college football. You're looking at it in terms of region and I like to see it more objectively when judging each team. I see more PAC12 teams traveling further to play out of conference games which is more than I can say for the SEC elite.

    If Alabama all of a sudden had to play Oregon next week on one week's preparation, they'd struggle to keep up with the no-huddle because Alabama isn't used to playing that. The SEC is great in their element until they get taken out of it. Unless they get like 6 weeks to prepare.
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    11-18-2014 09:07 PM
  15. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    Some years sure...some years no. Last season the ACC had 5 ranked teams in the top 25 at the end of the season, the SEC had 6, and only because Vandy ended up rank #25 (how, I have no idea given their schedule at the end of the season...but that goes back to my argument about bias for the SEC in the old BCS).

    And no, I'm not an FSU fan...I am, however, an ACC supporter since that is where GT plays, but only when the typical drivel comes out about how "powerful" the SEC is. It's yawn inducing.
    Well I'd much rather argue teams than conferences, so I'll end it here


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    11-18-2014 09:08 PM
  16. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    No, you're not. I'm not even trying to say that the SEC isn't great. But let's not kid ourselves and act like the SEC is the be-all, end-all of college football. You're looking at it in terms of region and I like to see it more objectively when judging each team. I see more PAC12 teams traveling further to play out of conference games which is more than I can say for the SEC elite.

    If Alabama all of a sudden had to play Oregon next week on one week's preparation, they'd struggle to keep up with the no-huddle because Alabama isn't used to playing that. The SEC is great in their element until they get taken out of it. Unless they get like 6 weeks to prepare.
    Yeah I see what you're saying and agree to an extent.


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    11-18-2014 09:12 PM
  17. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    No, you're not. I'm not even trying to say that the SEC isn't great. But let's not kid ourselves and act like the SEC is the be-all, end-all of college football. You're looking at it in terms of region and I like to see it more objectively when judging each team. I see more PAC12 teams traveling further to play out of conference games which is more than I can say for the SEC elite.

    If Alabama all of a sudden had to play Oregon next week on one week's preparation, they'd struggle to keep up with the no-huddle because Alabama isn't used to playing that. The SEC is great in their element until they get taken out of it. Unless they get like 6 weeks to prepare.
    Bama handles the hurry offense better now. Several teams have used it on them this year.


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    11-18-2014 09:17 PM
  18. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Oh...wait, my bad. They have 1 top 25 team they have beaten. Clemson is no. 22.


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    Where are you getting your information man? lol...because wherever it is, you should probably STOP getting info from there.
    11-18-2014 09:19 PM
  19. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Bama handles the hurry offense better now. Several teams have used it on them this year.


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    Actually...only a couple of teams have brought a true "hurry up offense" to Alabama (to be more technical about it, we'll call it the no huddle, since the offense really isn't running it's plays any quicker, it's just eliminating the time in between). Of those teams you played, one of them beat you with it...soooo...
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    11-18-2014 09:23 PM
  20. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Where are you getting your information man? lol...because wherever it is, you should probably STOP getting info from there.
    What team that FSU has beaten this year, other than Clemson, is currently ranked in the top 25?


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    11-18-2014 09:26 PM
  21. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Bama handles the hurry offense better now. Several teams have used it on them this year.


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    And who did they lose to?
    11-18-2014 09:26 PM
  22. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    What team that FSU has beaten this year, other than Clemson, is currently ranked in the top 25?


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    FSU beat the #6 Notre Dame a few weeks back...giving them ONE less ranked victory than your beloved crimson tide. LOL! The point you're attempting to make is such a silly one, and it's obvious you don't pay much attention to the rankings of other conferences, and typical of SEC fans that I've met, any team that isn't in the SEC is a "lesser" team in the over all picture...except they played THROUGH the SEC to win national championships, like last season.

    You're trying to narrow the criteria which teams are judged to fit your argument, and it's just bad form bud. Eventually you're argument will be "Which teams have FSU beat that are ranked higher than #10 that have put more than 10% of their lineup in the NFL every season and have stadium capacities over 85k...".
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    11-18-2014 09:37 PM
  23. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    FSU beat the #6 Notre Dame a few weeks back...giving them ONE less ranked victory than your beloved crimson tide. LOL! The point you're attempting to make is such a silly one, and it's obvious you don't pay much attention to the rankings of other conferences, and typical of SEC fans that I've met, any team that isn't in the SEC is a "lesser" team in the over all picture...except they played THROUGH the SEC to win national championships, like last season.

    You're trying to narrow the criteria which teams are judged to fit your argument, and it's just bad form bud. Eventually you're argument will be "Which teams have FSU beat that are ranked higher than #10 that have put more than 10% of their lineup in the NFL every season and have stadium capacities over 85k...".
    I'm not narrowing anything. What's important is now, not a few weeks ago. Strength of schedule is why FSU is 3rd, although undefeated. I'm actually a pretty big Yellow Jackets fan. I like them better than half the SEC teams.


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    11-18-2014 10:05 PM
  24. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I'm not narrowing anything. What's important is now, not a few weeks ago. Strength of schedule is why FSU is 3rd, although undefeated. I'm actually a pretty big Yellow Jackets fan. I like them better than half the SEC teams.


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    You most certainly ARE narrowing...initially FSU never beat any top 25 teams, then it was "well, just one" (which was inaccurate again), and then it's "Well, what about CURRENT ranked teams...".

    What's important to these teams is who they're beating or playing NOW...our argument was about you saying FSU never beat any top 25 teams, which was flat out inaccurate.

    FSU is #3 right now because they almost lost to an unranked Miami. If Alabama's near loss to an unranked Arkansas happened this past weekend, they would not be #1 either. We could honestly sum up the top 4 rankings right now to dumb luck at when the bad games actually occurred...and obviously a major win over the #1 seed helps a lot.

    Truly though, much like professional sports, the new playoff system gives the ride to the top 4, so aside from bragging rights, whether your #1 or #4 really isn't relevant anymore, it's all about how you do after the season is over and you enter into the playoff run...do I think FSU can beat Alabama? Yes. I absolutely do...they tend to be a team that finds a way to win regardless of their opponent. I also think that Alabama is just as strong and could just as easily beat FSU...hell, TCU could break out an amazing performance and freeze both teams.

    Bottom line...SEC fans like to think they are the top of the totem pole regardless of who actually wins and loses, and it's so ridiculous. This entire argument PROVES this because you guys are trying to diminish FSU because they're not an SEC team...by critiquing their wins (which is all they have btw), and calling their inter-conference play "weak" because it's the ACC. Right now, the ACC holds the national championship...not sure how that's construed as weaker than a conference that does not hold the national championship.
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    11-18-2014 10:14 PM
  25. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    To set the record straight: FSU has played 3 top 25 teams, but only had the better talent in two of those games(although they won all three games)


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    11-18-2014 10:32 PM
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