1. anon6040766's Avatar
    Silly Cracked.... Semantics... There is a difference between banned for life and suspended for a season. No one has been suspended for a season before... This is also the longest suspension ever meted by MLB.
    37 have received lifetime bans of which 14 were reinstated. A lifetime ban is LONGER than a one season suspension?

    You're right, nobody has been suspended for a single season, but clearly others have been suspended for longer than a season? So what is it that you're arguing.

    If even a single person has been banned for life than that is longer than a one season suspension? Lifetime vs One Year?

    Let me repeat...this IS NOT the longest suspension meted ever. A lifetime ban is longer than a one season suspension.

    It's a ridiculous discussion. He got 162 games plus the post season and then can return. 8 players from the 1920 White Sox were told they could never play again. Enough said.



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    01-12-2014 01:01 AM
  2. wolfedude88's Avatar
    37 have received lifetime bans of which 14 were reinstated. A lifetime ban is LONGER than a one season suspension?

    You're right, nobody has been suspended for a single season, but clearly others have been suspended for longer than a season? So what is it that you're arguing.

    If even a single person has been banned for life than that is longer than a one season suspension? Lifetime vs One Year?

    Let me repeat...this IS NOT the longest suspension meted ever. A lifetime ban is longer than a one season suspension.

    It's a ridiculous discussion. He got 162 games plus the post season and then can return. 8 players from the 1920 White Sox were told they could never play again. Enough said.



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    I think the joke was more that a ban is not a suspension. Since they were banned then this would be longest suspension.
    01-12-2014 01:40 AM
  3. iEd's Avatar
    I think someone banned cannot be involved in MLB in any way like Pete Rose.
    A Rod is just suspended for a season and post season. Even if he retires he could get a job coaching or managing years down the line in MLB and could appear on the ballot for the HOF.
    01-12-2014 01:49 AM
  4. Fausty82's Avatar
    First of all, he’s old. He’ll be 39 in July. That means that, assuming his taking the issue to the courts system doesn’t give him any relief, he’ll turn 40 during the year of his return. Way to old for a shortstop/3rd baseman, IMO.

    Second, the Yankees have to replace him this year, while saving $25M. Why not spend that $25M on a permanent replacement with some longevity remaining - and with a lot less arrogance and attitude.

    I am hearing some (mainly Yankee fans) complain that Ryan Braun got less than 60 game suspension and A-Rod is getting 162... why the different sentence for essentially the same "crime"?

    I also heard an interesting "solution" to the whole PED thing. If a player is caught, he get suspended for the rest of the season whether it’s game 1 or game 161. But additionally, the team owners and management are fined heavily and the player's team is immediately ruled ineligible for post-season play. The issue would immediately become self-policing, and no one would ever want to be the guy who got his team ruled ineligible for the post-season. The only problem with that solution is that it would have NO impact on teams like Toronto, the Cubs, the White Sox, Miami, etc.

    I’m not saying that this "solution" won’t work, or that it’s even something that could/should be implemented, but I can’t disagree with the concept.
    01-12-2014 02:00 AM
  5. kch50428's Avatar
    It's a ridiculous discussion. He got 162 games plus the post season and then can return. 8 players from the 1920 White Sox were told they could never play again. Enough said.
    There's never been a suspension for an entire season before, yet you compare that to a lifetime ban, and the two are equal in your world. Ridiculous indeed.

    Edit to add... even the NY Times is calling it the longest suspension in MLB history...

    Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez was barred for 162 games and the 2014 postseason, the longest suspension for doping in baseball history, after an arbitrator upheld most of the punishment sought by Major League Baseball.
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    01-12-2014 08:02 AM
  6. Not Quite Right's Avatar
    *Yawn* ... I was sick of that guy when he played for the Mariners.
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    01-12-2014 10:07 AM
  7. anon6040766's Avatar
    There's never been a suspension for an entire season before, yet you compare that to a lifetime ban, and the two are equal in your world. Ridiculous indeed.

    Edit to add... even the NY Times is calling it the longest suspension in MLB history...
    Do you even read posts before commenting? You said I compared a suspension to a lifetime ban being equal? I am doing the exact opposite.

    They all fall under the same umbrella. A one game suspension, 50 game suspension, 162 game suspension, lifetime ban. They are all suspensions of different length. Newspapers like the NY Times have even said "not counting lifetime bans" because there is no way to calculate how many years a lifetime ban is. Banning a 25 year old for life is different than banning a 35 year old because of the amount of playing time they have left in their career.

    Why are you so adamant about this. If your job said come back in a year or you're never allowed back. Which is a longer period of time before you can come back. Can't really compare the two, but never allowed back implies longer than one year. We would say you were suspended for a year or you were fired.

    There really is no need at this point to comment back, clearly we are entitled to both feel how we feel and think what we think. I respect your perspective, I simply believe you don't comprehend mine, which is okay. We respectfully disagree.


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    01-12-2014 02:10 PM
  8. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    The confusion or issue here is the terminology...there has never been a suspension of this nature before, because a banned player is not suspended, they are banned. This IS the longest suspension because of the wording...this is NOT the longest punishment.

    And either way, F' A-Rod.
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    01-12-2014 03:36 PM
  9. anon6040766's Avatar
    The confusion or issue here is the terminology...there has never been a suspension of this nature before, because a banned player is not suspended, they are banned. This IS the longest suspension because of the wording...this is NOT the longest punishment.

    And either way, F' A-Rod.
    That's the point I was trying to make...well said.


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    01-12-2014 04:51 PM
  10. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    Just noticed the title.
    01-12-2014 08:39 PM
  11. anon6040766's Avatar
    First of all, hes old. Hell be 39 in July. That means that, assuming his taking the issue to the courts system doesnt give him any relief, hell turn 40 during the year of his return. Way to old for a shortstop/3rd baseman, IMO.

    Second, the Yankees have to replace him this year, while saving $25M. Why not spend that $25M on a permanent replacement with some longevity remaining - and with a lot less arrogance and attitude.

    I am hearing some (mainly Yankee fans) complain that Ryan Braun got less than 60 game suspension and A-Rod is getting 162... why the different sentence for essentially the same "crime"?

    I also heard an interesting "solution" to the whole PED thing. If a player is caught, he get suspended for the rest of the season whether its game 1 or game 161. But additionally, the team owners and management are fined heavily and the player's team is immediately ruled ineligible for post-season play. The issue would immediately become self-policing, and no one would ever want to be the guy who got his team ruled ineligible for the post-season. The only problem with that solution is that it would have NO impact on teams like Toronto, the Cubs, the White Sox, Miami, etc.

    Im not saying that this "solution" wont work, or that its even something that could/should be implemented, but I cant disagree with the concept.
    Two things. With A-Rod the Yankees are over 25M over the cap and have large luxury taxes. Now that they don't have to pay him they are very close to the cap and avoiding any luxury tax. Thus most insiders don't think they'll spend much to replace him for one a season. They can't stop him from returning next season unless they buy him out.

    Lastly, the Yankees fans don't get it. Braun's suspension was for using PED's. A-Rod's is for obstruction and various other things like hiring an attorney for Bio owner and impeding several investigations. You can't compare Braun to A-Rod, although they both did cheat.



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    01-12-2014 09:09 PM
  12. phreddyl's Avatar
    Two things. With A-Rod the Yankees are over 25M over the cap and have large luxury taxes. Now that they don't have to pay him they are very close to the cap and avoiding any luxury tax. Thus most insiders don't think they'll spend much to replace him for one a season. They can't stop him from returning next season unless they buy him out.

    Lastly, the Yankees fans don't get it. Braun's suspension was for using PED's. A-Rod's is for obstruction and various other things like hiring an attorney for Bio owner and impeding several investigations. You can't compare Braun to A-Rod, although they both did cheat.



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    Why do you say Yankee fans don't get it? I am a Yankee fan and I am well aware why Aroid got more than the others. Anyone who followed the case is aware that he obstructed justice. He is an embarrassment to the organization and to baseball.
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    01-12-2014 09:19 PM
  13. Fausty82's Avatar
    Two things. With A-Rod the Yankees are over 25M over the cap and have large luxury taxes. Now that they don't have to pay him they are very close to the cap and avoiding any luxury tax. Thus most insiders don't think they'll spend much to replace him for one a season. They can't stop him from returning next season unless they buy him out.

    Lastly, the Yankees fans don't get it. Braun's suspension was for using PED's. A-Rod's is for obstruction and various other things like hiring an attorney for Bio owner and impeding several investigations. You can't compare Braun to A-Rod, although they both did cheat.

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    No argument regarding the penalty imposed and the charges/accusations. IMHO, the Yankees will buy A-Rod out IF he wants to come back in 2015. Bottom line, Rodriguez is done in New York. That’s my opinion and I’m standing by it.
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    01-12-2014 09:33 PM
  14. phreddyl's Avatar
    No argument regarding the penalty imposed and the charges/accusations. IMHO, the Yankees will buy A-Rod out IF he wants to come back in 2015. Bottom line, Rodriguez is done in New York. Thats my opinion and Im standing by it.
    I hope you are right about buy out. He will absolutely want to come back. He is that much of a tool.
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    01-12-2014 09:41 PM
  15. Fausty82's Avatar
    I hope you are right about buy out. He will absolutely want to come back. He is that much of a tool.
    The real problem with people like him is that they are incredibly self-centered, narcissistic and continually want to be where they are not wanted/welcome.
    01-12-2014 09:52 PM
  16. iEd's Avatar
    A Rod like most narcissist are master manipulators.
    Going on the radio after that first meeting with MLB is what I believe is impression management. He's been doing this probably all his life.
    He was hoping that people would say. "Why would he go on the radio and deny if he was guilty?"

    This is exactly what he/narcissist do, create that question that doubt no matter the evidence against him.
    A narcissist rarely slinks away quietly.
    In his mind the world, Bud Selig and the Yankees are out to destroy him.
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    01-12-2014 10:24 PM
  17. anon6040766's Avatar
    Why do you say Yankee fans don't get it? I am a Yankee fan and I am well aware why Aroid got more than the others. Anyone who followed the case is aware that he obstructed justice. He is an embarrassment to the organization and to baseball.
    Sorry, misunderstanding. Wasn't saying Yankees fans don't get the Braun vs A-Rod, meant that the common fan doesn't under the cap and luxury tax. The poster I was quoting made it out like they would go spend that extra 25M. It's more than likely they'll try to save for once.


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    01-13-2014 01:55 AM
  18. anon6040766's Avatar
    No argument regarding the penalty imposed and the charges/accusations. IMHO, the Yankees will buy A-Rod out IF he wants to come back in 2015. Bottom line, Rodriguez is done in New York. Thats my opinion and Im standing by it.
    I agree, they'll buy him out, but it's gonna cost them a lot of $$$ either way. If nobody wants him and his $25M is guaranteed then he may have no incentive to accept the buyout. Guess we'll have to wait and see.


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    01-13-2014 01:57 AM
  19. jsntrenkler's Avatar
    I'm not a huge sports fan, however the punishment does seem light for the offense. Cheating should be a lifetime ban IMO.
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    01-13-2014 12:06 PM
  20. thecellphoneguy's Avatar
    Alex Rodriguez you've been banned!-imageuploadedbytapatalk1390308466.308139.jpg
    I wear it proudly!


    Alex Rodriguez you've been banned!-imageuploadedbytapatalk1390308539.274971.jpg
    Not even hamburger helper can save him this time!
    01-21-2014 07:50 AM
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