1. Joebin's Avatar
    As snappy as my iPhone 4 is, I am assuming that Siri requires the heavy lifting that the A5 can handle. My guess is that the A4 chip could probably handle processing but at the expense of heating up the handset and battery life. If so, we know that Apple won't allow any feature that taxes the overall experience.
    10-11-2011 06:06 PM
  2. Capnjackk's Avatar
    definitely the processor, but who knows maybe someone will port a version of siri over to the iphone 4
    10-11-2011 06:48 PM
  3. BryanTheRed's Avatar
    As snappy as my iPhone 4 is, I am assuming that Siri requires the heavy lifting that the A5 can handle. My guess is that the A4 chip could probably handle processing but at the expense of heating up the handset and battery life. If so, we know that Apple won't allow any feature that taxes the overall experience.
    I think you've hit the nail on the head here!
    10-11-2011 07:38 PM
  4. StaticFX's Avatar
    The A5 chip is required for siri (so they say)... bu if you look around the net (youtube) for siri videos... there are earlier versions running (one video was from 2009)

    so if may work, but not well ---
    10-11-2011 08:20 PM
  5. jakej914's Avatar
    To everyone who's saying the processor is able to do soooo much more: what you ask Siri is bounced to Apple's servers. There is little to do with processor power. Nonetheless, the A5, clocked at 800 MHz is not that much faster than the iPhone 4's A4. As far as the OP's question, I would have to side with others on this being a 4S strategy. Sort of like the compass on the iPhone 3GS. (Yeah, remember those days?) While that's not a cut and dry example, it gives you an idea. You have to give it something to differentiate it from its predecessor. As if the camera and processor improvements weren't enough, giving 4S users access to Siri is just the icing on the cake.
    10-11-2011 10:33 PM
  6. Timhewitt's Avatar
    I ask you (AGAIN), do you know this dev personally? Could you set up an interview with us? Do you have any proof what-so-ever that this is the case?
    The Interview is online if you care to search for it. I've already seen it and will not go find it for you to prove to you I am telling the truth and not speaking from pure conjecture as everyone else is in this thread.
    10-11-2011 11:08 PM
  7. peterthomas's Avatar
    Not sure I agree , Most of the work is done in the cloud as you need an Internet connection for Siri to work (I believe )


    @dazzx
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    You put me in serious doubt, Kindly someone please elaborate this issue. Do we need an internet connection for the siri to work? i mean cant we use the Siri offline?
    10-12-2011 03:39 AM
  8. Genericmessage00's Avatar
    The Interview is online if you care to search for it. I've already seen it and will not go find it for you to prove to you I am telling the truth and not speaking from pure conjecture as everyone else is in this thread.
    So.........you have no proof then. Okay, just checking
    10-12-2011 07:52 AM
  9. diamonddialogue's Avatar
    Wow, come on people. I say once again, why don't you wait for the phone to come out before you spew out what you just simply think is true? Or what you're convincing yourself is true based on anger that you maybe had to buy an iPhone 4S to have this feature? How many of you have taken the iPhone 4S apart and dissected its abilities? Anyone? No. That's what I thought.

    I'd believe a developer over an average Joe any day. That's all we can go off of. Yes, this was likely partially a marketing strategy, but I am willing to bet that iPhone 4 cannot run Siri as smoothly as it was intended. If that pisses you off, suck it up and deal with it. Apple are perfectionists, and I like it that way. When one of you takes the iPhone 4S apart and proves one opinion or the other, then it will be more relevant. Right now, I'm sorry, but us iPhone 4 users are S.O.L. No reason for bitterness or hostility. No one has any facts yet.

    Chill out. In two days you guys will know everything.
    Last edited by diamonddialogue; 10-12-2011 at 08:05 AM.
    10-12-2011 08:02 AM
  10. Genericmessage00's Avatar
    Wow, come on people. I say once again, why don't you wait for the phone to come out before you spew out what you just simply think is true? Or what you're convincing yourself is true based on anger that you maybe had to buy an iPhone 4S to have this feature? How many of you have taken the iPhone 4S apart and dissected its abilities? Anyone? No. That's what I thought.

    I'd believe a developer over an average Joe any day. That's all we can go off of. Yes, this was likely partially a marketing strategy, but I am willing to bet that iPhone 4 cannot run Siri as smoothly as it was intended. If that pisses you off, suck it up and deal with it. Apple are perfectionists, and I like it that way. When one of you takes the iPhone 4S apart and proves one opinion or the other, then it will be more relevant. Right now, I'm sorry, but us iPhone 4 users are S.O.L. No reason for bitterness or hostility. No one has any facts yet.

    Chill out. In two days you guys will know everything.

    You mad bro?
    10-12-2011 08:07 AM
  11. Genericmessage00's Avatar
    You put me in serious doubt, Kindly someone please elaborate this issue. Do we need an internet connection for the siri to work? i mean cant we use the Siri offline?
    Yes, we do.

    Siri needs to reach out to a server for her answers.
    10-12-2011 08:11 AM
  12. StaticFX's Avatar
    it seems that Siri has been working on older iPhones for a while now.

    i cant post links yet!

    guardian.co. uk/technology/2011/oct/05/iphone-4s-siri-icloud

    Until Tuesday evening, Siri.com was the home page for the company which Apple already owned, and you could download a free app which would work on older iPhones (back to the 3GS: here's a review) and offer you much of the Siri functionality. Now it's been withdrawn and its servers turned off for old versions of the app and Siri's pages redirect to Apple's site.

    If you think about it, this means that Apple's taking software that did run on old hardware and limiting it to new hardware. For a company that makes its money out of selling hardware, this might not be surprising. For those who had the free app, that's probably annoying. As far as we presently know there's nothing 4S-specific about Siri (although possibly the voice recognition depends on the A5 chip).

    You put me in serious doubt, Kindly someone please elaborate this issue. Do we need an internet connection for the siri to work? i mean cant we use the Siri offline?
    No... i doubt much would work since it needs some sort of knowledge base to look up information.
    10-12-2011 08:50 AM
  13. Gaston's Avatar
    The siri on older phones was much different. Anyone could have downloaded it for free out of the appstore 6 months ago. It didn't have nearly the same conversation that the current app has.

    Although, for all of those saying it's processing power...we just have to wait and see. If that's the case, why is it not on the ipad 2? Same processor, same ram. Maybe it will come to it after beta, who knows, but it's all marketing at this point.
    10-12-2011 12:23 PM
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