[Just_Me_D]

While sitting here watching the Borne Ultimatum (again), I started thinking about the next iPad device. Since the iPhone X is the first iPhone to be basically bezel-less, I wonder if the next iPad will also be bezel-less. What do you think and why?

[Tartarus]

I can see Apple adapting the edge-to-edge displays in all of their devices, but I’m not sure if they’ll use OLED screen for them.

[TripleOne]

I hope so!
And it better have OLED too

[darius_robin]

^And the notch!!

Actually seeing, iPads are better off with bezels. Sure, Apple could cut off a little bit more like they did with the 10.5-inch one this year, but going full-on bezel-less like the iPhone X isn’t a good thing for iPads in my opinion.

[Quis89]

I personally think I would appreciate bezels more on an iPad than I would an iPhone. The way I hold the iPad is different. So if it were bezel-less, I wonder if my hands would interfere with how I use it. I'm not sure.

But how'd you get from an awesome movie like Bourne Ultimatum to iPads? Lol.

[Premium1]

^And the notch!!

Actually seeing, iPads are better off with bezels. Sure, Apple could cut off a little bit more like they did with the 10.5-inch one this year, but going full-on bezel-less like the iPhone X isn’t a good thing for iPads in my opinion.

I agree. No bezel would be a pain to hold when gaming, I think they could trim down a little in terms of bezel on the 10.5" but with ipads no need to go iphone x bezel-less.

[msm0511]

I don't see it happening this year. Slimming down the bezels, maybe, but to eliminate them as on the X I doubt it. Apple still can't seem to implement 3D Touch yet. I also think the price will still be too high to put OLED at that size. Not even sure if the supply would be available.

[jj2339]

Why does everyone keep saying that OLED in a tablet is too hard? Samsung has been making gorgeous ones for theirs. I’m not understanding what would make it different for an iPad.

[msm0511]

Why does everyone keep saying that OLED in a tablet is too hard? Samsung has been making gorgeous ones for theirs. I’m not understanding what would make it different for an iPad.

I don't necessarily know how hard it is to make them for tablets, but more of a yield rate/price problem. OLEDs are still pretty expensive, and making enough of them that Apple would need is what would be difficult.

[jj2339]

I don't necessarily know how hard it is to make them for tablets, but more of a yield rate/price problem. OLEDs are still pretty expensive, and making enough of them that Apple would need is what would be difficult.

Again, Samsung has made them for years for their tablets, and the newest one apparently has an amazing screen. So is it because they can't ramp up for iPads, or apple needs a higher margin? I'm tempted by the Samsung Galaxy tab 3, but I like using the handoff between iPad and my phone too much. But they do exist.

[msm0511]

Again, Samsung has made them for years for their tablets, and the newest one apparently has an amazing screen. So is it because they can't ramp up for iPads, or apple needs a higher margin? I'm tempted by the Samsung Galaxy tab 3, but I like using the handoff between iPad and my phone too much. But they do exist.

Probably both. You have to think about how many tablets Samsung sells vs how many Apple sells. The machines to make OLED displays are huge and basically have their own mini clean room around them. The last time I checked there was only one manufacturer in the world making the actual machines to build OLED screens, and they can’t make them fast enough. I believe it’s a division of Canon unless somebody bought them. I think LG was interested at one point.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mac...shortages/amp/
There’s also the margin issue. The price would probably be way higher than current.

[jj2339]

Probably both. You have to think about how many tablets Samsung sells vs how many Apple sells. The machines to make OLED displays are huge and basically have their own mini clean room around them. The last time I checked there was only one manufacturer in the world making the actual machines to build OLED screens, and they can’t make them fast enough. I believe it’s a division of Canon unless somebody bought them. I think LG was interested at one point.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mac...shortages/amp/
There’s also the margin issue. The price would probably be way higher than current.

That helps, thanks!

I do wonder if apple does go OLED for the iPad, how much of a difference it would make. I was doing the hdr vids on YouTube for my iPhone x, and was amazed. Then I did it on my iPad air 2, and was surprised at how good that looked too. Seriously surprised, I thought that the iPad couldn't do that, and it looked as good as the X OLED screen. With the brightness amped up, I've not seen the major difference in quality that I expected between the screens. Not like the pop you see on Samsung's, which I know is a matter of the tuning.

[techblogger911]

Wouldn't an edge to edge display on a tablet be more prone to accidental touch and the screen may be easily breakable? Bezel on a tablet would suffice my requirement, unless tablets will get smaller screen sizes, which will not be true.

[msm0511]

Not like the pop you see on Samsung's, which I know is a matter of the tuning.

Samsung has an Enhanced Video mode turned on by default that works with certain apps, and it's crazy. It makes non HDR video look pretty close to HDR. I miss that aspect about my S8+, but not enough to go back b/c of other issues.

Wouldn't an edge to edge display on a tablet be more prone to accidental touch and the screen may be easily breakable? Bezel on a tablet would suffice my requirement, unless tablets will get smaller screen sizes, which will not be true.

I've wondered about accidental touches as well, but Apple seems to have that down pat with the current Pros using the Apple Pencil. I don't think smaller bezels have anything to do with cracking easier. The glass where the bezel is is the same as the actual display glass. The biggest advantage is a much smaller device footprint with a bigger screen. My X is almost the exact same size as the 8, with a much bigger screen. I also have a HTC U12+ that's smaller than the 8 Plus with a screen that's 1/2 bigger because the bezels are so much smaller.

[rellyrellz]

I think they will the 12.9 screen will stay the same but the body will down size and the 10.5 body will stay the same and the screen will grow to the rumored 11”
Also iOS 12 iPad gestures look like it moving toward that.