1. pappy53's Avatar
    Well, the news has been released that an NCIS report dated in 2009 had Bo Bergdahl marked as a deserter, and misbehaving with the enemy. When Bergdahl was being released, Obama held a Rose Garden news conference and just beamed about how he "served with honor", presumably knowing at the time about the NCIS report. Then, Susan Rice speaks out, and said that he "served with honor and distinction".
    Where is the so-called transparency that this president promised? This administration has been anything but transparent.
    04-07-2015 11:37 PM
  2. HankAZ's Avatar
    Well, the news has been released that an NCIS report dated in 2009 had Bo Bergdahl marked as a deserter, and misbehaving with the enemy. When Bergdahl was being released, Obama held a Rose Garden news conference and just beamed about how he "served with honor", presumably knowing at the time about the NCIS report. Then, Susan Rice speaks out, and said that he "served with honor and distinction".
    Where is the so-called transparency that this president promised? This administration has been anything but transparent.
    You're kidding, right? Obama's administration has been the least transparent administration in my recollection. Instead of transparency, we get lies, end runs around the Constitution and cover ups.
    04-08-2015 12:56 AM
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    04-08-2015 05:54 PM
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    The logical fallacy of equivocation... and a thought ending cliche. Nice work.
    04-08-2015 06:03 PM
  5. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    The logical fallacy of equivocation... and a thought ending cliche. Nice work.
    Equivocation

    Definition: The same word is used with two different meanings.

    Proof: Identify the word which is used twice, then show that a definition which is appropriate for one use of the word would not be appropriate for the second use.

    Hmmmm... Pot.. Kettle.

    I appreciate the complement, but I don't deserve it.
    04-08-2015 06:30 PM
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    So rather than confront the administration that, in their own words, promised to be the most transparent administration in history (and clearly demonstrates the exact opposite reality), we continue to blame Bush and try to turn the argument back on him and his presidency?

    Bush's issues notwithstanding, the fact remains that Obama lied. He lied about the promised transparency of his own house, as well as anything else he could get away with, and some are STILL focusing on Bush's presidency now approaching 7 years later. At some point Obama must be held accountable for his lies, his liberal agenda and open distain for the US Constitution.
    04-08-2015 07:06 PM
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    So rather than confront the administration that, in their own words, promised to be the most transparent administration in history (and clearly demonstrates the exact opposite reality), we continue to blame Bush and try to turn the argument back on him and his presidency?

    Bush's issues notwithstanding, the fact remains that Obama lied. He lied about the promised transparency of his own house, as well as anything else he could get away with, and some are STILL focusing on Bush's presidency now approaching 7 years later. At some point Obama must be held accountable for his lies, his liberal agenda and open distain for the US Constitution.
    Tell you what, I'll hold Obama accountable when you hold Bush accountable. Deal?

    5,000+ dead over bad intelligence vs Bergdahl.

    Which upsets you more Hank?
    04-08-2015 10:02 PM
  8. HankAZ's Avatar
    Tell you what, I'll hold Obama accountable when you hold Bush accountable. Deal?

    5,000+ dead over bad intelligence vs Bergdahl.

    Which upsets you more Hank?
    Clearly you are on a mission to prop up the untenable Barack Hussien Obama. He is president now. Has been for going on 7 years. And all we hear is Bush this, Bush that. Obama was the one who promised a transparent administration, which is the ONLY topic for this thread. This thread is NOT about Bush (41 OR 43), Reagan, Clinton or any previous president. It's about the liar-in-chief, Barack Obama.

    He promised transparency and yet all we get is obfuscation, misdirection and lies.

    What upsets me most of all is the free passes that the liberals (including the media) want to give him on his lies and deception. None of them even pretend to hold him accountable for his actions and lies.

    And concerning Bergdahl, he was a deserter, an enemy sympathizer, a hero and now he's a deserter again. Oh, yeah, and he was trade bait for some really bad terrorist types.
    04-08-2015 10:27 PM
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    What upsets me most of all is the free passes that the liberals (including the media) want to give him on his lies and deception. None of them even pretend to hold him accountable for his actions and lies.
    Then its up to THIS REPUBLICAN CONGRESS TO IMPEACH HIM.

    WHY HAVENT THEY????
    04-08-2015 10:44 PM
  10. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Then its up to THIS REPUBLICAN CONGRESS TO IMPEACH HIM.

    WHY HAVENT THEY????
    They don't have the numbers to impeach in the Senate. It takes more than just a majority. It's pretty high. I'd have to look it up. You can Google it.


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    04-08-2015 10:49 PM
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    They don't have the numbers to impeach in the Senate. It takes more than just a majority. It's pretty high. I'd have to look it up. You can Google it.


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    Articles of impeachment are brought by the House with a simple majority. The trial is in the senate.
    04-08-2015 10:59 PM
  12. HankAZ's Avatar
    Then its up to THIS REPUBLICAN CONGRESS TO IMPEACH HIM.

    WHY HAVENT THEY????
    Two words: Joe Biden

    They don't have the numbers to impeach in the Senate. It takes more than just a majority. It's pretty high. I'd have to look it up. You can Google it.

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    Saving him the trouble - removal from office requires a two-thirds majority of senators present - 67 votes.
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    04-08-2015 10:59 PM
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    Articles of impeachment are brought by the House with a simple majority. The trial is in the senate.
    Bill Clinton was impeached by the house. But the Senate did not.


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    04-08-2015 11:08 PM
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    Then its up to THIS REPUBLICAN CONGRESS TO IMPEACH HIM.

    WHY HAVENT THEY????
    You just giving a smug answer because you know that it isn't going to happen. Fairly typical liberal response.


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    04-08-2015 11:16 PM
  15. HankAZ's Avatar
    Bill Clinton was impeached by the house. But the Senate did not.


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    Impeachment is the process of bringing charges against one holding a political office. The "articles of impeachment" are functionally equivalent to the indictment in a criminal case. The House drafts the articles of impeachment, which are approved/ratified by a simple majority, which constitutes impeachment. The term "impeachment" applies IF articles of impeachment are brought, regardless of whether the office holder is convicted or not. If the articles of impeachment are brought, the Senate conducts the trial, at the conclusion of which, a supermajority (two-thirds of the Senators present) is required to convict. Conviction results in removal from office for the impeached. Failure to convict results in the impeached remaining in office.


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    04-08-2015 11:19 PM

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