1. whatsever's Avatar
    I like to know how people think about there iPhone 6 knowing that people in a factory work till they drop dead or just replaced for other fools.

    I'm member of Amnasty International and I know people Always get stress at work but this is not the same.

    It's modern slavery like on foxconn and still Apple is doing it all over again.

    Also the YouTube movies are gone and only BBC promotion is still there to found after a week.

    How do you feel sponsering a product like Apple.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04vs348
    12-30-2014 04:58 AM
  2. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I like to know how people think about there iPhone 6 knowing that people in a factory work till they drop dead or just replaced for other fools.
    First of all, this is basically a blanket statement with no proof, but let's say it's 100% true. Is it Apple's fault or the fault of the individuals for allowing him or herself to work to that point or the supervisor/manager/controller of the individuals who worked them to that point?

    I'm member of Amnasty International and I know people Always get stress at work but this is not the same.

    It's modern slavery like on foxconn and still Apple is doing it all over again.
    Prostitution with a pimp manager here in the U.S. is slavery. Manipulating a crowd into a frenzy with a false injustice narrative is arguably slavery. Working in the summer heat or winter cold an entire shift for minimum wage can be viewed as slavery. People claim that Walmart, UPS, FedEx and others work their employees like slaves, still, it doesn't mean it's true.

    Also the YouTube movies are gone and only BBC promotion is still there to found after a week.

    How do you feel sponsering a product like Apple.

    [video]http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04vs348[/url]
    I actually feel great about my Apple products. I don't care how Apple's engineers devised them or who put them together as long they works the way they are suppose to work. Listen, some people will always work harder than others, especially outside of the U.S.. Some people work harder because they want to whereas others work harder because they have to. It's not right or wrong. It's life.
    Last edited by JustMe'D; 12-31-2014 at 07:54 PM.
    12-30-2014 03:33 PM
  3. zerog46's Avatar
    Don't buy the products if you don't like them. I'm sure Samsung and every other cellphone manufacturing company use them.


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    12-30-2014 03:44 PM
  4. SwitchBeach's Avatar
    1. Shouldn't this be under the subforum for "News" or "General" or perhaps even "Politics"? It does not belong in the device subforum.
    2. It's "their iPhone" not "there iPhone".
    3. I don't "sponser" (sponsor) Apple. I purchase their products. Note that "Apple" is not a product.
    4. If one believes all the reports out there, many factories for lots of companies operate under less than ideal conditions. People can chose to work elsewhere. Comparing it to slavery is an insult to people who are/were exactly enslaved.
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    12-30-2014 03:47 PM
  5. kch50428's Avatar
    Re #1... Politics it is... Moved.
    12-30-2014 03:50 PM
  6. HankAZ's Avatar
    1. Shouldn't this be under the subforum for "News" or "General" or perhaps even "Politics"? It does not belong in the device subforum.
    2. It's "their iPhone" not "there iPhone".
    3. I don't "sponser" (sponsor) Apple. I purchase their products. Note that "Apple" is not a product.
    4. If one believes all the reports out there, many factories for lots of companies operate under less than ideal conditions. People can chose to work elsewhere. Comparing it to slavery is an insult to people who are/were exactly enslaved.
    If we’re picking nits and being the grammar Nazis, the organization that the OP referenced is "Amnesty International", not "Amnasty International".

    The fact of the matter is that Apple has these products manufactured overseas because of cheap/inexpensive labor costs. Apple has done quite a bit already to ensure better working conditions, however, as a company who contracts the manufacturing process, they are not ultimately responsible for the working conditions put in place my the Foxconns of the world.
    12-30-2014 03:57 PM
  7. Flow39's Avatar
    You do realize that Apple has taken great strides to improve conditions for them, right?

    http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/...tions-in-china

    http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-touts...y-audits-jump/

    https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/

    Also, Apple isn't the one to manufacture these products, Foxconn is. If you want to blame someone, blame Foxconn. You might also want to point the blame on other manufacturers such as Sony, Samsung, LG, Microsoft, and Amazon, who all use Foxconn to build their devices overseas.
    12-30-2014 04:48 PM
  8. kch50428's Avatar
    For the "Amnasty International" crowd, Apple can do no right. In anything.
    12-30-2014 04:51 PM
  9. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Here's a list of some of the companies that use Foxconn...but for some reason you want to point out Apple as if they are a lonely guilty party? OP, you're a joke...

    Acer Inc.
    Amazon.com
    Apple Inc.
    BlackBerry Ltd.
    Cisco
    Dell
    Google
    Hewlett-Packard
    Microsoft
    Motorola Mobility
    Nintendo
    Nokia
    Sony
    Toshiba
    Vizio

    ...you want to start pointing your little amnesty finger at someone who is guilty? Why not spend your effort going after...i dunno...FOXCONN?
    12-30-2014 05:21 PM
  10. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    For the "Amnasty International" crowd, Apple can do no right. In anything.
    About the only people amnesty stands up for are cruel murderers facing the death penalty.

    On the(ridiculous) topic on hand: the OP makes the most ridiculous claim I've heard in awhile. Those workers aren't forced to work there. They may need to work, but they aren't forced. I have to work to pay bills, does that make me a slave? No. If I didn't want to work. I could sell my phone, car, and any other thing that requires money and I could bum off my parents. I am not forced to work, but I need to. I don't see any difference between me and those workers. Further more, so Sean pointed out, apple is not the only company to use FOXXCONN. By the OP's argument, We need to stop using technology all together.

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    Last edited by the_tech_eater; 12-30-2014 at 05:41 PM.
    12-30-2014 05:24 PM
  11. iEd's Avatar
    The OP posted basically the same vibe last year about the 5S 5C. I got Deja vu on this one.

    http://forums.imore.com/showthread.php?t=267924


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    12-30-2014 06:01 PM
  12. Septembersrain's Avatar
    That's like those people who yell out "Global warming is killing us all!"

    All the while they drive a gas powered car, use regular non-solar electricity in their homes, and probably use a fair share of products that leave waste that will be burned into the atmosphere.

    Oh the conundrum.
    12-30-2014 06:15 PM
  13. Les74's Avatar
    Here's a list of some of the companies that use Foxconn...but for some reason you want to point out Apple as if they are a lonely guilty party? OP, you're a joke...

    Acer Inc.
    Amazon.com
    Apple Inc.
    BlackBerry Ltd.
    Cisco
    Dell
    Google
    Hewlett-Packard
    Microsoft
    Motorola Mobility
    Nintendo
    Nokia
    Sony
    Toshiba
    Vizio

    ...you want to start pointing your little amnesty finger at someone who is guilty? Why not spend your effort going after...i dunno...FOXCONN?
    Oh no!!! My wife and I both have iPhones, a Wii, 2 Playstations, and a Vizio Tv. However shall I go on.......
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    12-30-2014 06:53 PM
  14. HankAZ's Avatar
    Oh no!!! My wife and I both have iPhones, a Wii, 2 Playstations, and a Vizio Tv. However shall I go on.......
    So, it’s all your fault?
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    12-30-2014 06:57 PM
  15. Les74's Avatar
    So, it’s all your fault?
    In a matter of words....yes. Woah is me....
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    12-30-2014 06:59 PM
  16. Les74's Avatar
    Oh Lordy. Forgot that I have a Mac too.
    12-30-2014 07:00 PM
  17. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    Oh Lordy. Forgot that I have a Mac too.
    You enslaver! How can you sleep at night?






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    12-30-2014 07:06 PM
  18. Les74's Avatar
    You enslaver! How can you sleep at night?







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    OH

    MY

    GOD!


    I also own an Apple Tv. I am the single most cause of the state of the world today.....
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    12-30-2014 07:08 PM
  19. A895's Avatar
    That's like those people who yell out "Global warming is killing us all!"

    All the while they drive a gas powered car, use regular non-solar electricity in their homes, and probably use a fair share of products that leave waste that will be burned into the atmosphere.

    Oh the conundrum.
    To be fair, to completely go green, it isn't cheap at all. It is one of the main reasons a lot of people don't do it.

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    12-30-2014 07:36 PM
  20. Septembersrain's Avatar
    To be fair, to completely go green, it isn't cheap at all. It is one of the main reasons a lot of people don't do it.

    Posted via the iMore App for Android
    I'm sure it's not cheap to build all these devices and reach the demand. It's just that going the cheaper, easier route, that's usually the case.
    12-30-2014 07:38 PM
  21. A895's Avatar
    Here's a list of some of the companies that use Foxconn...but for some reason you want to point out Apple as if they are a lonely guilty party? OP, you're a joke...

    Acer Inc.
    Amazon.com
    Apple Inc.
    BlackBerry Ltd.
    Cisco
    Dell
    Google
    Hewlett-Packard
    Microsoft
    Motorola Mobility
    Nintendo
    Nokia
    Sony
    Toshiba
    Vizio

    ...you want to start pointing your little amnesty finger at someone who is guilty? Why not spend your effort going after...i dunno...FOXCONN?
    I have a HP Laptop and a Motorola phone, I must commit senpuku as atonement. I failed this planet.

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    12-30-2014 07:41 PM
  22. nr2d's Avatar
    Why do the news organizations and groups like AI always point the finger at Apple? Foxconn and other assembly companies also do work for Sony, Samsung, HTC and so on. If your going to point your finger at Apple also point your finger at these other companies also.
    12-30-2014 09:08 PM
  23. wbeard385's Avatar
    Nobody in China cares how many hrs I work.


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    12-30-2014 09:21 PM
  24. iEd's Avatar
    Nobody in China cares how many hrs I work.


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    Hilarious


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    12-30-2014 10:25 PM
  25. A895's Avatar
    I'm sure it's not cheap to build all these devices and reach the demand. It's just that going the cheaper, easier route, that's usually the case.
    Oh of course. Until it becomes livable in the U.S. to take lower wages, manufacturers won't be bringing these low paying manufacturing jobs to the U.S. anytime soon.

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    12-30-2014 10:30 PM
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