1. A895's Avatar
    No, and no one stated that he used his clout to influence BHO. The point is that he has clout. Period!
    No he doesn't. Stop giving him more importance than he has, if he has any power it is from the right bringing him up ALL the time.

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    01-02-2015 11:34 AM
  2. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    No he doesn't. Stop giving him more importance than he has, if he has any power it is from the right bringing him up ALL the time.

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    Sharpton doesn't have any importance whatsoever in "my" life, and I assume it is the same in yours. Having said that, there are a good deal of people who view him as an important figure in the black community. The media also views him in that manner. He sees himself in that manner, in my opinion. Trayvon, Ferguson, NYPD assassination and others all reference Sharpton in one way or another. Do a google search of the "left-wing" media sites and see for yourself.
    01-02-2015 11:40 AM
  3. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    Sharpton doesn't have any importance whatsoever in "my" life, and I assume it is the same in yours. Having said that, there are a good deal of people who view him as an important figure in the black community. The media also views him in that manner. He sees himself in that manner, in my opinion. Trayvon, Ferguson, NYPD assassination and others all reference Sharpton in one way or another. Do a google search of the "left-wing" media sites and see for yourself.
    Just'D .... he's the mouse that roared.

    There isn't much difference between notorious and important. History will probably paint him with the former.
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    01-02-2015 12:13 PM
  4. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Just'D .... he's the mouse that roared.

    There isn't much difference between notorious and important. History will probably paint him with the former.
    You could very well be right in regard to history, however, in the present time, that "mouse" is getting a great deal of exposure and inclusion, and that equates to clout.
    01-02-2015 12:22 PM
  5. A895's Avatar
    Sharpton doesn't have any importance whatsoever in "my" life, and I assume it is the same in yours. Having said that, there are a good deal of people who view him as an important figure in the black community. The media also views him in that manner. He sees himself in that manner, in my opinion. Trayvon, Ferguson, NYPD assassination and others all reference Sharpton in one way or another. Do a google search of the "left-wing" media sites and see for yourself.
    Exactly, the media keeps seeing a black man at questionably things that may deal with race, and then they want to say this and that about how he is leading the black community to do stupid things when the black community at large pays him no mind.

    Whenever I am around other black people and we discuss these events, never have I ever heard Sharptons name come up, because in retrospect the very community that media tries to portray as his audience very in large part pay him no attention, that is why I said he has no real power but the power the media has given him.

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    01-02-2015 12:42 PM
  6. A895's Avatar
    You could very well be right in regard to history, however, in the present time, that "mouse" is getting a great deal of exposure and inclusion, and that equates to clout.
    Exposure from the media, that isn't real power or clout. You are giving him that importance, when anyone can see he isn't that important. He does nothing for anyone but himself nowadays. That isn't power that is narcissism. He leads no one, he only is there for the cameras and moves on to the next. That isn't clout.

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    01-02-2015 12:44 PM
  7. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Exactly, the media keeps seeing a black man at questionably things that may deal with race, and then they want to say this and that about how he is leading the black community to do stupid things when the black community at large pays him no mind.

    Whenever I am around other black people and we discuss these events, never have I ever heard Sharptons name come up, because in retrospect the very community that media tries to portray as his audience very in large part pay him no attention, that is why I said he has no real power but the power the media has given him.

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    I understand what you're saying and I agree to a point, however, there are far too many situations and communities that will follow his lead. He can walk into various neighborhoods and draw a crowd simply because of his fame, and you and I both know that too many people will believe every word that falls from his lips.
    01-02-2015 12:46 PM
  8. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Exposure from the media, that isn't real power or clout. You are giving him that importance, when anyone can see he isn't that important. He does nothing for anyone but himself nowadays. That isn't power that is narcissism. He leads no one, he only is there for the cameras and moves on to the next. That isn't clout.

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    In theory, you are correct, but in reality, it does, and his fame alone provides it.
    01-02-2015 12:48 PM
  9. A895's Avatar
    I understand what you're saying and I agree to a point, however, there are far too many situations and communities that will follow his lead. He can walk into various neighborhoods and draw a crowd simply because of his fame, and you and I both know that too many people will believe every word that falls from his lips.
    I disagree on that. He doesn't take lead, he just shows up, and people assume someone is following him. He goes where the cameras go.

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    01-02-2015 01:29 PM
  10. A895's Avatar
    In theory, you are correct, but in reality, it does, and his fame alone provides it.
    That is because the media focuses on him too much. If a camera is one someone all the time of course they will have fame. If someone brings him up in every conversation about race in America, of course he will have fame.

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    01-02-2015 01:32 PM
  11. pappy53's Avatar
    81 WH visits, and Obama's right-hand advisor on black issues and situations, and he has no clout? /smh
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    01-02-2015 01:33 PM
  12. pappy53's Avatar
    No he doesn't. Stop giving him more importance than he has, if he has any power it is from the right bringing him up ALL the time.

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    A huge percentage of blacks no longer believe in the NAACP. Does that mean that it has no clout?
    01-02-2015 01:35 PM
  13. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    That is because the media focuses on him too much. If a camera is one someone all the time of course they will have fame. If someone brings him up in every conversation about race in America, of course he will have fame.

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    Well, the two things you mentioned happen all the time with him, thus giving him fame and clout.
    01-02-2015 02:04 PM
  14. A895's Avatar
    81 WH visits, and Obama's right-hand advisor on black issues and situations, and he has no clout? /smh
    Can you prove he has done something that proves he has power or are you just going by your assumptions and opinions?

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    01-02-2015 06:17 PM
  15. A895's Avatar
    A huge percentage of blacks no longer believe in the NAACP. Does that mean that it has no clout?
    I don't know. I don't even know who runs the thing now. Some things lose their purpose or significance, Sharpton is one of those things. To keep bringing him up like he has done something that proves he has power is stupid when he hasn't done anything significant.

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    01-02-2015 06:19 PM
  16. A895's Avatar
    Well, the two things you mentioned happen all the time with him, thus giving him fame and clout.
    Fame and clout are two different things. Clout meaning he can get stuff done (he can't).

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    01-02-2015 06:19 PM
  17. pappy53's Avatar
    Fame and clout are two different things. Clout meaning he can get stuff done (he can't).

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    Refer to post #115.


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    01-02-2015 07:59 PM
  18. pappy53's Avatar
    Fame and clout are two different things. Clout meaning he can get stuff done (he can't).

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    Owes 4.5 million in back taxes, and will still have a say in the next attorney-general. No clout, huh?


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    01-02-2015 08:12 PM
  19. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Fame and clout are two different things. Clout meaning he can get stuff done (he can't).

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    (Sigh)...Okay


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    01-02-2015 08:22 PM
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    (Sigh)...Okay


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    That's the approach I've taken with him as well, lol
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    01-02-2015 11:37 PM
  21. A895's Avatar
    Owes 4.5 million in back taxes, and will still have a say in the next attorney-general. No clout, huh?


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    Again, is there anything he has done that proves he has clout?

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    01-03-2015 01:48 AM
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    (Sigh)...Okay


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    I'm just saying, everyone keeps saying he has power yet fail to say what has he done that proves that.

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    01-03-2015 01:49 AM
  23. pappy53's Avatar
    Again, is there anything he has done that proves he has clout?

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    Unbelievable. /smh
    Again, read #115.



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    01-03-2015 07:35 AM
  24. Les74's Avatar
    I like to consider myself neutral when it comes to politics....leaning more to the left, however. That being said, Al Sharpton is absolutely a "race baiter" and does have clout. Being in the position he is, he does have influence.....mostly not in a good way. It's that simple.


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    01-03-2015 08:15 AM
  25. A895's Avatar
    Unbelievable. /smh
    Again, read #115.



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    That isn't proof that he has done something. Has he done anything useful or is white house visits enough to get clout?

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    01-03-2015 10:33 AM
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