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[acadia11]

Hey look! I can post news stories too...

Salt Lake cop cleared in shooting of unarmed white man | WREG.com

...like I said before, if you want to view it as a racial thing, that's your problem. This kid was being resistive, disorderly and he made an action that caused the officer to make a decision. Don't want to end up shot by a cop in this scenario? Don't resist arrest and reach for your waist band when an LEO has a firearm pointed at you.

Fantastic a body cam!!! And a blood alcohol level of .18, no he said . She said, but clear and irrefutable evidence. Now imagine no .18, no body cam, and only he said she said ...

 

[the_tech_eater]

I posted the video where did he wave it at anyone or brandish it. What would have been the appropriate way to carry it? An item for purchase

When you buy a gun, especially an air rifle, a store employee--after the background check-- either carries it out to the vehicle, or puts it in its box and sees you out to your vehicle. It apparent you know nothing of the gun buying process, or anything for that matter. I've been around guns, and the buying process since I was 11 when my dad took me to a gun store and bought me my first gun.

No he wasn't waving the gun at someone, but he stood there in the store entrance with a gun, which is very provocative. You are race baiting again.


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[acadia11]

When you buy a gun, especially an air rifle, a store employee--after the background check-- either carries it out to the vehicle, or puts it in its box and sees you out to your vehicle. It apparent you know nothing of the gun buying process, or anything for that matter. I've been around guns, and the buying process since I was 11 when my dad took me to a gun store and bought me my first gun.

No he wasn't waving the gun at someone, but he stood there in the store entrance with a gun, which is very provocative. You are race baiting again.


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Don't know never bought it owned a gun. I'm discussing race and if that is race baiting , so what , deal with it. Tough titty.

 

[the_tech_eater]

Don't know never bought it owned a gun. I'm discussing race and if that is race baiting , so what deal with it.

No, you're trying to say that because a man that happened to be black did something unimaginably stupid with a gun and got shot by officers that happened to be white, that he was killed because he was black. That is race baiting.


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[acadia11]

You view blacks and whites differently. That's your problem. You "don't want it to be"...that's like a fat guy saying he doesn't want to be fat yet he keeps up the same eating habits that got him there.

Yes I do. I am as much a product of my experiences as the next, and I don't try to pretend I don't. And in discussing and at least admitting that my view can be influenced at least it can be an honest discussion.

And I know even I show biased towards blacks, so I find it ridiculous to me that someone who has likely less interaction with blacks than I do, can pretend they are simply color blinded.

 

[anon(4698833)]

I posted the video where did he wave it at anyone or brandish it. What would have been the appropriate way to carry it? An item for purchase

Look up the definition of brandish...and understand that he was clearly doing it.

And I never said he was waving it AT anyone, I said he was waving it around...this is not something a normal person does when buying a firearm of any kind. You know what would happen if you went into a gun shop and you did the same thing? You'd probably be tackled to the ground (since they know their firearms aren't loaded when on display) and you'd be thrown out of the building physically (while also probably getting your *** kicked for a minute or two).

 

[anon(4698833)]

I don't believe that at all. As I mentioned my brother is in the force. I do believe in trends , it is not to say that every case is one way or the other, just like we can't say Everyman is taller than everywoman but on average men are taller than women. And really the issue is not about cops shooting blacks, it's about how society inherently treats and views blacks. Again systematic ........

It's got nothing to do with how society "inherently" treats and views blacks...it has to do with you being ignorant and living a life based on your own choice to segregate people by race.

 

[BreakingKayfabe]

The energy people put towards "It happened because they were black" would probably be better served towards "It happened because they were stupid." Like people who reach into patrol units when an officer is confronting you.

All I'm saying is that there are consequences for being stupid and people want to substitute stupid for black. If you're stupid, you're stupid no matter what damn color you are and you will eventually find a consequence.

 

[acadia11]

The energy people put towards "It happened because they were black" would probably be better served towards "It happened because they were stupid." Like people who reach into patrol units when an officer is confronting you.

All I'm saying is that there are consequences for being stupid and people want to substitute stupid for black. If you're stupid, you're stupid no matter what damn color you are and you will eventually find a consequence.

Women walks around naked next to a bunch of drunk men, who then rape her, do the men not have culpability because they were drunk and she was flaunting it. Of course they do, honestly. This conversation will go no where until you admit this biased exists. I know as a Blackman there is isht I can't do, it is what it is, but to pretend like the world views all with equal measure is false.

Just like the DuPont guy who roars his two kids and was told he couldn't go to prison because he couldn't survive , the average person not named DuPont would never avoid prison because a judge felt they couldn't hack it, it's the same for blacks and whites, bottom line blacks and whites are treated differently in society. And viewed differently especially in the eyes of the law.

 

[BreakingKayfabe]

Women walks around naked next to a bunch of drunk men, who then rape her, do the men not have culpability because they were drunk and she was flaunting it. Of course they do, honestly.

This is the anecdote you're giving me? She gets raped for being stupid. It doesn't mean I relieve the men of culpability.

You want the cops to be culpable for doing their job. There is no comparison.

 

[acadia11]

It's got nothing to do with how society "inherently" treats and views blacks...it has to do with you being ignorant and living a life based on your own choice to segregate people by race.

Who said people should be segregated? Or for that matter who my friends are. Or what neighborhood I'm from. If I saw Sean id say these same things to his face and I still go out for a beer with him. I Dont take it personal and I don't believe people have to agree or sit around going come by yah, I abhor segregation , I think we should mix like p0rnstars this will be he only end to this biased.

It's because people segregate that basic concept of race exists , we will probably move to classism then but race will cease to be an issue. As it won't make a conceptual sense to differentiate.

 

[acadia11]

This is the anecdote you're giving me? She gets raped for being stupid. It doesn't mean I relieve the men of culpability.

You want the cops to be culpable for doing their job. There is no comparison.

Their job is to shoot unarmed people and make deadly mistakes, what kind of a police state are you for, Stalin?

 

[BreakingKayfabe]

Their job is to shoot unarmed people and make deadly mistakes, what kind of a police state are you for, Stalin?

Mistakes happen. Live with it.

 

[hydrogen3]

Their job is to shoot unarmed people and make deadly mistakes, what kind of a police state are you for, Stalin?

If their life is threatened..yes.


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[acadia11]

Mistakes happen. Live with it.

Or in this case die with it.

 

[Honey Beagle]

Hopefully once the house and senate are republican majority some of these democratic decisions will be overturned.

 

[acadia11]

Hopefully once the house and senate are republican majority some of these democratic decisions will be overturned.

Which ones? Care to be specific?

 

[hydrogen3]

Which ones? Care to be specific?

Nobama care comes to mind.

No bama. Chuckles

 

[anon(4698833)]

Who said people should be segregated?

You did.

 

[hydrogen3]

Who said people should be segregated? Or for that matter who my friends are. Or what neighborhood I'm from. If I saw Sean id say these same things to his face and I still go out for a beer with him. I Dont take it personal and I don't believe people have to agree or sit around going come by yah, I abhor segregation , I think we should mix like p0rnstars this will be he only end to this biased.

It's because people segregate that basic concept of race exists , we will probably move to classism then but race will cease to be an issue. As it won't make a conceptual sense to differentiate.

"Mix like porn stars."

*Sigh*