1. IamMasterChat's Avatar
    I'd like some feedback on this topic...What would happen if people found out(in the year 2020), that Obama knew all along that he was born in Kenya? Would he be liable for criminal punishment? Would everything that he signed into law be reversed?


    The question is, who would dare to testify that he already knew about it?
    11-28-2014 02:48 PM
  2. pappy53's Avatar
    11-28-2014 02:49 PM
  3. Scatabrain's Avatar
    With all respect 2012 is not today. Things have improved.


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    11-28-2014 02:58 PM
  4. pappy53's Avatar
    With all respect 2012 is not today. Things have improved.


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    Actually, incomes are worse still.
    http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2014/0...en-during.html
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    11-28-2014 03:05 PM
  5. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Incomes in the United States have not risen, period.... The economy is in shambles.... Thanks to this administrations war on the middle class. Government workers thanks to this President have not had a pay increase in 5 years. This country is in shambles along with the economy.
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    11-28-2014 03:06 PM
  6. pappy53's Avatar
    I wonder what is going to happen when the SCOTUS rules that the majority of federal subsidies for Obamacare are illegal. Not slamming Obamacare, just throwing it out there, as it is a very real possibility.
    I believe that it will kill the law.
    11-28-2014 03:14 PM
  7. Scatabrain's Avatar
    I wonder what is going to happen when the SCOTUS rules that the majority of federal subsidies for Obamacare are illegal. Not slamming Obamacare, just throwing it out there, as it is a very real possibility.
    I believe that it will kill the law.
    The immigration order will get reversed first. I wonder if there will be a law to replace it instead. Wondering if families actually register will they be deported. I'd like to think that's not what America is about.

    I feel the same way with healthcare. Allowing companies to deny coverage was deplorable.


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    11-28-2014 03:26 PM
  8. pappy53's Avatar
    Another Obamacare problem is making it more favorable for companies to hire the illegals with a work permit than to hire citizens. Something is wrong with that picture.


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    11-28-2014 03:51 PM
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    The immigration order will get reversed first. I wonder if there will be a law to replace it instead. Wondering if families actually register will they be deported. I'd like to think that's not what America is about.

    I feel the same way with healthcare. Allowing companies to deny coverage was deplorable.


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    If they are here illegally, they should be required to leave the country and enter back the legal way like so many others. The ones who come legally hate it when others come illegally and are allowed to stay and etc. It's not fair to the legal immigrants.


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    11-28-2014 05:35 PM
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    Incomes in the United States have not risen, period.... The economy is in shambles.... Thanks to this administrations war on the middle class. Government workers thanks to this President have not had a pay increase in 5 years. This country is in shambles along with the economy.
    Lol! The economy is in shambles, by which measure? Where have you been for the last 6 years.

    So, you want us to spend more on government make up your mind.

    Your statement about income is just false I already posted the graph in family income and they absolutely have been rising.
    11-28-2014 06:06 PM
  11. palandri's Avatar
    Employers cut back hours to avoid the penalties of Obamacare related to full-time workers, so it is related to Obamacare.
    Yeah, if my employees can't afford to pay for medical insurance on minimum wage or their tips that's not my problem. I have a business to run and a 3 million dollar house to pay for. It cost me a fortune just to water my backyard golf course.
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    11-28-2014 06:10 PM
  12. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Lol! The economy is in shambles, by which measure? Where have you been for the last 6 years.

    So, you want us to spend more on government make up your mind.

    Your statement about income is just false I already posted the graph in family income and they absolutely have been rising.
    Wish I lived in your fantasy world.
    11-28-2014 07:07 PM
  13. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Yeah, if my employees can't afford to pay for medical insurance on minimum wage or their tips that's not my problem. I have a business to run and a 3 million dollar house to pay for. It cost me a fortune just to water my backyard golf course.
    *sigh* chuckles....
    11-28-2014 07:09 PM
  14. acadia11's Avatar
    Wish I lived in your fantasy world.
    I guess the whole world but you is living in a fantasy

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...41016?irpc=932
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    11-28-2014 07:35 PM
  15. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Simply pushing this administrations agenda.

    Poppycock.....
    11-28-2014 08:05 PM
  16. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Lol! The economy is in shambles, by which measure? Where have you been for the last 6 years.

    So, you want us to spend more on government make up your mind.

    Your statement about income is just false I already posted the graph in family income and they absolutely have been rising.
    Let me ask you.... Are you a 1%er?

    The economy and country are in shambles thanks to the Democrats who are hell bent on destroying the country...... HELL....OUR WAY Of LIFE......

    The Conservative is out to save it!!
    11-28-2014 08:13 PM
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    OP, I agree and despite all the trouble the House has caused, I think he has accomplished a lot. Not as much as he wanted to but enough make him a stand out president. My mother can now afford health insurance and get medication for her fibromyalgia while she couldn't before(pre-existing condition). Also, my father died of leukemia and I know what kind of medical bills arise and because of that I know people can no longer be denied if they find out they have cancer.


    My political life hasn't been that long(I'm only 29) but I've lived through Bush and have seen what he did and I've also lived through almost two years of the Obama presidency and between the two, Obama has had the better presidency. Bush took us to war on a lie and out of it, it created the ISIS situation. I think that is the big thing I very much dislike about him and I cannot for the life of me figure out why Conservatives(here or elsewhere) don't hold him accountable for it. Of course these people till think Benghazi was a conspiracy even if the House and Fox News reported that no such blame can be cast. I also very much dislike the judges he appointed. Corporations are not people for example yet Scalia and his ilk voted for them to be included as such.

    The key word here is politician and for politicians, Obama has been great and has thought of the people while Bush only thought of the corporations from my point of view and from the data.
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    11-28-2014 08:38 PM
  18. pappy53's Avatar
    Wish I lived in your fantasy world.
    He definitely lives in a fantasy world.


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    11-28-2014 08:46 PM
  19. Soeasy's Avatar
    Simply pushing this administrations agenda.

    Poppycock.....
    You never seem to address any of the actual rebuttals to the statements you've made.

    It's okay if you can't or are unable to. But do you have at least one piece of concrete evidence to back up ANY of the points you've made?

    If not, you don't have any credibility and come across as portably just a bitter person.
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    11-28-2014 09:39 PM
  20. calebt's Avatar
    "Obama will go down as exceptional president"


    Highly doubtful in my opinion anyways, I'm sure the media will see it that way though.
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    11-29-2014 06:07 AM
  21. acadia11's Avatar
    "Obama will go down as exceptional president"


    Highly doubtful in my opinion anyways, I'm sure the media will see it that way though.
    No one ever seems to address the actual points. Why do you feel he's not exceptional? If you look at his record and accomplishments they are historically impressive.

    For example as measured, his metrics on economic recovery were better than Reagan and he had a recession that was 3 times larger than reagans to handle. I never understood he doesn't get the credit that Reagan does???
    11-29-2014 07:51 AM
  22. anon(5061193)'s Avatar
    Obama got Osama eh? So he was there suited up with a gun risking his life? Obama didn't get Osama. The brave men and woman who volunteer to risk their lives to defend you and the rest of us got Osama. Obama is just a bystander who gets the credit for it
    Bystander???? He gave the order!! YOU and ME are bystanders.....See the difference?... Like him or Hate him....doesn't matter... He got Bin Laden and Bush couldn't for 7 years... That is FACT not opinion
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    11-29-2014 08:04 AM
  23. anon(5061193)'s Avatar
    No one ever seems to address the actual points. Why do you feel he's not exceptional? If you look at his record and accomplishments they are historically impressive.

    For example as measured, his metrics on economic recovery were better than Reagan and he had a recession that was 3 times larger than reagans to handle. I never understood he doesn't get the credit that Reagan does???
    Because he is BLACK
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    11-29-2014 08:05 AM
  24. anon(5061193)'s Avatar
    Let me ask you.... Are you a 1%er?

    The economy and country are in shambles thanks to the Democrats who are hell bent on destroying the country...... HELL....OUR WAY Of LIFE......

    The Conservative is out to save it!!
    Don't mean to be harsh.. but if you are out of work today than you really don't want to work.. The economy is BACK and back in a big way...I am having trouble finding people to hire and their salary demands are crazy... It is a good problem to have....
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    11-29-2014 08:08 AM
  25. pappy53's Avatar
    Don't mean to be harsh.. but if you are out of work today than you really don't want to work.. The economy is BACK and back in a big way...I am having trouble finding people to hire and their salary demands are crazy... It is a good problem to have....
    BS. Tell that to the middle class, whose incomes have dropped a lot since he took office. Someone forgot to tell them.


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    11-29-2014 11:21 AM
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