1. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I knew you'd focus in on my comment about having minority friends, wife, etc. It's why I made it...it's an easy target for someone making a typical complaint. You took the bait like I figured, and that is a shame. And of course my argument differs in attitude than your own...I didn't come in here telling you that black on white racism isn't a problem, but you sure as sh*t told me that white on black racism isn't a problem, lol! This is why I responded to you with personal attacks, because you made some of the dumbest comments I've ever read, but instead of sticking to your guns, you backed out like a coward and tried to make the argument seem like me "missing the point" (which I don't, regardless of what you imply with made up points).

    You are trying to "get me to see"...assuming I don't understand your words. I clearly understand what you're saying. The problem is that you aren't allowing any points to exist outside of your own without diminishing them. I can't make a point about more specific racisms and prejudices because you only want to talk about more generalized or more deeply rooted racial issues.

    You say that I have a problem accepting history...where exactly did you come up with that? My comments on eradicating racism are coming from someone who wants to see it removed from all sides of the issue...but you maintain that there are more important victims than others..."experiences are not equal"...so you want to see an experienced based priority. To me, that's hilarious...speaking down towards my comment about generally wiping out racism and retorting with that?

    You've missed the forest amongst the trees...and you're accusing me of the same fault in a completely illegitimate way (based on my comments so far).
    12-11-2014 10:05 PM
  2. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Sean, I have a better question what is the big racist issue that you feel, if you feel that blacks are so discriminatory towards whites? What is the impact? What is the equivalence in systematic racism that I'm speaking about.
    I never equated, on any scale or historic prevalence, black on white racism to white on black racism. How could I? White people had quite a head start on such...quite a longer period of engrained discrimination as the "norm". My point was never TO equate them, my point was that racism is not something you pick and choose which one is more important and try to FIX. It's something that has to be adjusted and removed on an insurmountable level, because it is all originated by deeply rooted prejudices. Racism was born of prejudice...not the other way around...and because all of us still maintain various types of prejudice...its really a no win situation.
    12-11-2014 10:13 PM
  3. acadia11's Avatar
    I knew you'd focus in on my comment about having minority friends, wife, etc. It's why I made it...it's an easy target for someone making a typical complaint. You took the bait like I figured, and that is a shame. And of course my argument differs in attitude than your own...I didn't come in here telling you that black on white racism isn't a problem, but you sure as sh*t told me that white on black racism isn't a problem, lol! This is why I responded to you with personal attacks, because you made some of the dumbest comments I've ever read, but instead of sticking to your guns, you backed out like a coward and tried to make the argument seem like me "missing the point" (which I don't, regardless of what you imply with made up points).

    You are trying to "get me to see"...assuming I don't understand your words. I clearly understand what you're saying. The problem is that you aren't allowing any points to exist outside of your own without diminishing them. I can't make a point about more specific racisms and prejudices because you only want to talk about more generalized or more deeply rooted racial issues.

    You say that I have a problem accepting history...where exactly did you come up with that? My comments on eradicating racism are coming from someone who wants to see it removed from all sides of the issue...but you maintain that there are more important victims than others..."experiences are not equal"...so you want to see an experienced based priority. To me, that's hilarious...speaking down towards my comment about generally wiping out racism and retorting with that?

    You've missed the forest amongst the trees...and you're accusing me of the same fault in a completely illegitimate way (based on my comments so far).
    Please just read the article and then let's discuss.

    And yes I'm saying it's absurd to say black on white racism is remotely in the same context as white on black racism, due to the historical legacy of systematic racism, the huge population difference, and the fact that simply put whites are in a far more dominant position thusly to even describe them as being tangential or congruent is absurd to me. If you disagree , then simply tell me why you feel they are remotely similar??? What is similar about the experiences, historically, impact, systematically... Just tell me why you feel there is some sort of equivalence. I'm saying no, black on white racism is not an issue. It is not. And I'm telling you why I feel that way.
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    12-11-2014 10:13 PM
  4. acadia11's Avatar
    I never equated, on any scale or historic prevalence, black on white racism to white on black racism. How could I? White people had quite a head start on such...quite a longer period of engrained discrimination as the "norm". My point was never TO equate them, my point was that racism is not something you pick and choose which one is more important and try to FIX. It's something that has to be adjusted and removed on an insurmountable level, because it is all originated by deeply rooted prejudices. Racism was born of prejudice...not the other way around...and because all of us still maintain various types of prejudice...its really a no win situation.
    Of course you do pick and choose. Racism was born of economics, it has nothing to do with simply being prejudice. I really suggest you examine this issue from a more learned area. It didn't and doesn't exist simply because people are prejudice , so no just ending prejudice would not stop racism.
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    12-11-2014 10:15 PM
  5. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Please just read the article and then let's discuss.

    And yes I'm saying it's absurd to say black on white racism is remotely in the same context as white on black racism, due to the historical legacy of systematic racism, the huge population difference, and the fact that simply put whites are in a far more dominant position thusly to even describe them as being tangential or congruent is absurd to me. If you disagree why you feel they are remotely similar??? What is similar about the experiences, historically, impact, systematically... Just tell me why you feel there is some sort of equivalence. I'm saying no, black on white racism is not an issue. And I'm telling you why I feel that way.
    This is where you are faltering. I am not saying the experiences of a white person and the experiences of a black person are the same...I am not equating black on white racism to white on black racism. I've explained this already. My original comment, the one that you are still, for some reason, vehemently opposing, is that racism as a WHOLE needs to be stopped...but really can't be because people can't stop themselves from being prejudice. The only reason I even MENTIONED any particular kind of racism is because you made an inference that black on white racism wasn't an issue...and I retorted that it most certainly IS an issue, as is any kind of racism...it's ALL an issue, it's all putrid cowardice...but because you feel one has more historical significance and general existence than another, you place it above the others, as if you feel that only it deserves attention. That is such a narrow minded thought.
    12-11-2014 10:22 PM
  6. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Of course you do pick and choose. Racism was born of economics, it has nothing to do with simply being prejudice. I really suggest you examine this issue from a more learned area. It didn't and doesn't exist simply because people are prejudice , so no just ending prejudice would not stop racism.
    You very clearly have a limited understanding of the word prejudice then. The scope in which the word is applied, what it encompasses, and the types of things it lead to are absolutely what created racism at it's core. You cannot make an argument against that which would prove me wrong...but you're welcome to try since you feel you have such a higher understanding of it.
    12-11-2014 10:25 PM
  7. acadia11's Avatar
    This is where you are faltering. I am not saying the experiences of a white person and the experiences of a black person are the same...I am not equating black on white racism to white on black racism. I've explained this already. My original comment, the one that you are still, for some reason, vehemently opposing, is that racism as a WHOLE needs to be stopped...but really can't be because people can't stop themselves from being prejudice. The only reason I even MENTIONED any particular kind of racism is because you made an inference that black on white racism wasn't an issue...and I retorted that it most certainly IS an issue, as is any kind of racism...it's ALL an issue, it's all putrid cowardice...but because you feel one has more historical significance and general existence than another, you place it above the others, as if you feel that only it deserves attention. That is such a narrow minded thought.
    Ok, racism as a whole needs to stop. We agree. What's with all the personal attacks man? Cowardice ....

    I'm saying that you should try to understand the problem and it's a wholly different issue than trying to just say people are prejudice. I'm not making an inference , I'm again stating that black on white racism is not an issue. Much like saying littering is not an issue compared to an oil spill. Is it wrong , sure. But it's not the oil spill.
    12-11-2014 10:31 PM
  8. acadia11's Avatar
    You very clearly have a limited understanding of the word prejudice then. The scope in which the word is applied, what it encompasses, and the types of things it lead to are absolutely what created racism at it's core. You cannot make an argument against that which would prove me wrong...but you're welcome to try since you feel you have such a higher understanding of it.
    Prejudice created racism. I think I'm going to let you win now, because you've clearly haven't done any research on the subject. You think people are just prejudice for the h... Of it? Racism is an economic issue and our belief in a zero sum game.

    http://time.com/2850595/race-economy/

    There are many studies on this looking for the one now that noticed the correlation (inverse relationship) between the decreasing in the price of cotton and the increase in number lynchings. Again I really think you need to do a lot more reading on the subject because you aren't at all arguing from a base scholarship or any actual study on the subject.
    12-11-2014 10:38 PM
  9. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Ok, racism as a whole needs to stop. We agree. What's with all the personal attacks man? Cowardice ....

    I'm saying that you should try to understand the problem and it's a wholly different issue than trying to just say people are prejudice. I'm not making an inference , I'm again stating that black on white racism is not an issue. Much like saying littering is not an issue compared to an oil spill. Is it wrong , sure. But it's not the oil spill.
    So clearly define the issue you are placing at the top of the totem then...let's hear it.

    The personal attacks came from YOUR COMMENT that black on white racism was not an issue. Those were your specific words...

    Read the article , the fact that you see black on white racism as an issue, if that's what your trying to imply is simply ridiculous.
    That is why I made it personal, because you said something absurd and it was truly the only way to respond to such a thought.
    12-11-2014 10:43 PM
  10. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Prejudice created racism. I think I'm going to let you win now, because you've clearly haven't done any research on the subject. You think people are just prejudice for the h... Of it? Racism is an economic issue and our belief in a zero sum game.

    Study Shows Race Perceptions Are Exaggerated During Economic Trouble

    There are many studies on this looking for the one now that noticed the correlation (inverse relationship) between the decreasing in the price of cotton and the increase in number lynchings. Again I really think you need to do a lot more reading on the subject because you aren't at all arguing from a base scholarship or any actual study on the subject.
    The fact that you feel that type of racism is the origin story kind of proves my point...you're thinking far too recent. For someone who keeps advising me to essentially "educate myself" on the subject before continuing, you sure could use some of your own advice. It goes back so much further than that. Prejudice created racism. The problem you are having is the same one you're accusing me of doing...you're thinking far too specifically...but given your comments thus far, this isn't surprising.

    I'm curious if you even know what the definition of the word prejudice really is.
    12-11-2014 10:52 PM
  11. acadia11's Avatar
    The fact that you feel that type of racism is the origin story kind of proves my point...you're thinking far too recent. For someone who keeps advising me to essentially "educate myself" on the subject before continuing, you sure could use some of your own advice. It goes back so much further than that. Prejudice created racism. The problem you are having is the same one you're accusing me of doing...you're thinking far too specifically...but given your comments thus far, this isn't surprising.

    I'm curious if you even know what the definition of the word prejudice really is.
    Who said its recent? Racism is not new and my comment to you is its a economic issue. The article I picked just to show even today it's true. And I also mentioned the article of cotton prices which was a study from the 1900's.

    Where did I ever imply this was new , I said the racism is a function of economics and the belief in a zero sum game. Prejudice is not the cause of racism , prejudice is a symptom of this basic human view of the owrld, in order for me to have, you must not have. Being that humans are social we congregate with those who are closest to us to acquire resources , but prejudice against those who are not to avoid sharing those resources. Who said this psychology is new, as I stated you need to really study this subject more and hear what I'm saying.
    12-12-2014 08:58 AM
  12. acadia11's Avatar
    So clearly define the issue you are placing at the top of the totem then...let's hear it.

    The personal attacks came from YOUR COMMENT that black on white racism was not an issue. Those were your specific words...



    That is why I made it personal, because you said something absurd and it was truly the only way to respond to such a thought.
    Black on white racism is not an issue, I'm saying it again, please address why you feel it is. It is not absurd I made it very clear, due to the contextual and historical power dynamic in the US to imply it is, is to me crazy. Blacks simply do not have the power influence, the numbers, or the medium to adversely effect whites in the the same systematic way that whites have the ability to effect blacks. It's like a man complaining his wife hits him, ok, what damage can she honestly do to you. Further, how does my comment make it OK or even rational for you to make a personal attack, did my comment personally attack you?

    It's not about a totem, again, I'll explain its an ism, it simply is the way the culture in the US has evolved.
    12-12-2014 09:30 AM
  13. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Can we close this thread? It's way off topic and has turned into a racial feeding frenzy.. Sad that a few can ruin it for the many.


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    12-12-2014 09:34 AM
  14. acadia11's Avatar
    Can we close this thread? It's way off topic and has turned into a racial feeding frenzy.. Sad that a few can ruin it for the many.


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    Oh poppycock, trying to shut people up is not the American way. Let the people speak and be heard!
    12-12-2014 10:22 AM
  15. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I'm going to make this simple because honestly, I don't care enough to continue discussion on the history of slavery and racism with a person who cannot accept any view outside of his own. I shared a very general and basic opinion initially...one that said racism of any kind needs to be stopped, but before it can, people have to work on prejudices.

    You've stated a few times now that black on white racism is not a problem...you said it is because blacks don't have the power influence. I'm curious why you continue to feel that one type of racism is more important than another in the context of a discussion where all that was originally said was it all needs to stop...but you continue to try and convince me that one type of racism is not as legitimate as another. That white's shouldn't be concerned about racism against them from black people because black people don't really have that much influence...but as a person who has maintained a distaste for ALL racism and a wish that it would ALL stop, I still can't understand why you keep pushing for me to accept your decision to give varying types of racism a hierarchy...to me, the ONLY thing I give two sh*ts about is people stopping it as a whole.

    Your responses are full of double standards...and I don't buy into that. You are telling me that one is not as important as another, because "experiences are not the same". You made this clear with the example of a man being hit by a woman. This defines you and your comments. Tunnel vision at it's finest, and it makes debating things with you like this pointless, because you cannot adhere to even a remotely common standard of right and wrong. Your idea that some people can be considered worse victims of the same crime than others is laughable...a white man should not be offended by racism from a black man because the black man doesn't have as much overall influence? Give me a f*#king break.
    12-12-2014 01:37 PM
  16. hydrogen3's Avatar
    Every thread in this section turns in to a race debate.

    For God sakes man my head is about to explode.


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    12-12-2014 01:59 PM
  17. acadia11's Avatar
    I'm going to make this simple because honestly, I don't care enough to continue discussion on the history of slavery and racism with a person who cannot accept any view outside of his own. I shared a very general and basic opinion initially...one that said racism of any kind needs to be stopped, but before it can, people have to work on prejudices.

    You've stated a few times now that black on white racism is not a problem...you said it is because blacks don't have the power influence. I'm curious why you continue to feel that one type of racism is more important than another in the context of a discussion where all that was originally said was it all needs to stop...but you continue to try and convince me that one type of racism is not as legitimate as another. That white's shouldn't be concerned about racism against them from black people because black people don't really have that much influence...but as a person who has maintained a distaste for ALL racism and a wish that it would ALL stop, I still can't understand why you keep pushing for me to accept your decision to give varying types of racism a hierarchy...to me, the ONLY thing I give two sh*ts about is people stopping it as a whole.

    Your responses are full of double standards...and I don't buy into that. You are telling me that one is not as important as another, because "experiences are not the same". You made this clear with the example of a man being hit by a woman. This defines you and your comments. Tunnel vision at it's finest, and it makes debating things with you like this pointless, because you cannot adhere to even a remotely common standard of right and wrong. Your idea that some people can be considered worse victims of the same crime than others is laughable...a white man should not be offended by racism from a black man because the black man doesn't have as much overall influence? Give me a f*#king break.
    Who mentioned slavery? I don't think I've used that word once, Racism is much bigger than slavery.

    Finally, I said that racism is not a product of prejudice. So the argument that ending prejudice would end racism is invalid. prejudice is simply a symptom of zero sum game that many humans see the world.

    And finally, yes, white on black racism again is an issue where black on white racism is not. Are both wrong yes, if you are asking is any form of prejudice wrong yes, but that's not the same thing as saying something is a problem or an issue, or has the same level of importance because they do not all have the same societal impact. I'll give you an analogy, we'd all agree hunting animals for tusk or blubber or whatever else is wrong. But say hunting a killer whale is different from hunting a cheetah, because one is endangered and one is not. There are millions of killer whales , there are 6000 cheetahs left on the planet, so while hunting either is wrong the impact of hunting a cheetah is much greater on society. So it is an issue where as hunting a killer whale is not an issue. Get it. Is racism wrong, period, yes, is black on white racism an issue, no. And if you feel it is, please tell me why, instead of telling me it's simply a double standard. Tell me why, what's the impact, what is the actual issue?

    Finally, your biggest concern about racism is whether a white person is offended. I'm sorry being offended is not an issue. If your biggest concern about racism is whether someone is offended or not then I'm sorry no you do not know at all what it means to experience Racism.
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    12-12-2014 02:03 PM
  18. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I'm done with the discussion...you are putting words in my mouth. At no point did I equate the two types of racism together in a historic reference, I simply said they needed to be stopped. YOU, however, did say that one was not a problem and the other was. That is a double standard. You're placing more value on one type of racism than the other in response to me simply saying that ALL racism should be stopped.

    Black on white racism is a problem because it is RACISM.

    Black on asian racism is a problem because it is RACISM

    RACISM is a problem regardless of the specific type because it is RACISM.

    The impact is one person viewing another as inferior, in some way, based on their race. That is a problem...regardless of where it is coming from.

    I seriously cannot believe you are opposing me on this. The double standard you're defending here is really kind of disgusting...and because of that, I truly have no more I wish to add to this conversation. You've proven to me that your idea of racism is based in a world where only certain people have the ability to be racists in a legitimate fashion. I no longer wish to discuss the subject with someone who thinks that way...
    12-12-2014 02:20 PM
  19. acadia11's Avatar
    I'm done with the discussion...you are putting words in my mouth. At no point did I equate the two types of racism together in a historic reference, I simply said they needed to be stopped. YOU, however, did say that one was not a problem and the other was. That is a double standard. You're placing more value on one type of racism than the other in response to me simply saying that ALL racism should be stopped.

    Black on white racism is a problem because it is RACISM.

    Black on asian racism is a problem because it is RACISM

    RACISM is a problem regardless of the specific type because it is RACISM.

    The impact is one person viewing another as inferior, in some way, based on their race. That is a problem...regardless of where it is coming from.

    I seriously cannot believe you are opposing me on this. The double standard you're defending here is really kind of disgusting...and because of that, I truly have no more I wish to add to this conversation. You've proven to me that your idea of racism is based in a world where only certain people have the ability to be racists in a legitimate fashion. I no longer wish to discuss the subject with someone who thinks that way...
    Again, you haven't answered my question. why do you feel that black on white racism is an issue. I agree it is wrong but it is not an issue. Again tell me why it's an issue, meaning it's a problem today. In our society today what is the actual issue or the problem of black on white racism.

    Finally, I never said only certain people have the ability to be racist. Anyone can be racist. And I would say further "racist" today in the traditional is not an issue. There aren't many "racist" running around today they've been shunned out of existence for the most part. I would say Racism is however an issue. And I would again say Racism experienced by blacks is fundamentally different, I would argue that whites experience racism but they do not experience Racism. Why would they? Do you even know the difference, it's not about someone being offended. I think step one is to stop looking at this as a personal issue, Racism is not a personal problem , racism is personal, Racism is institutional construct.
    12-12-2014 02:40 PM
  20. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Black on white racism is not an issue
    That is a bunch of crock. There are people out there who want to limit racism to being whites against blacks, and totally disregard the actual meaning of the word. There is an ongoing dilemma involving blacks going around and harming whites simply because they are white. That is black on white racism, and it *is* an issue.
    . Blacks simply do not have the power influence, the numbers, or the medium to adversely effect whites in the the same systematic way that whites have the ability to effect blacks.
    Are you for real? Let a white person use the N word in front of a black person and see what happens. There are whites who initially voted for Dear Leader before opting for someone else, and have been literally silenced for fear of being quickly and wrongfully labeled a racist. You know I'm right.
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    12-12-2014 02:41 PM
  21. acadia11's Avatar
    That is bunch of crock. There are people out there who want to limit racism to bring whites against blacks, and totally disregard the actual meaning of the word. There is an ongoing dilemma involving blacks going around and harming whites simply because they are white. That is black on white racism, and it is an issue. Are you for real? Let a white person use the N word in front of a black person and see what happens. There are whites who initially voted for Dear Leader before opting for someone else, and have been literally silenced for fear of being quickly and wrongly labeled a racist. You know I'm right.
    Ok what is he number of whites being harmed by blacks simply because they are white. Can you enlighten me on the statistics , actually i already know the answer, and Before you go down a path that's so easily disproved, most harm is intra-racial, predominately from a Criminal standpoint blacks harm blacks, and whites harm whites.
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    12-12-2014 02:46 PM
  22. acadia11's Avatar
    That is a bunch of crock. There are people out there who want to limit racism to being whites against blacks, and totally disregard the actual meaning of the word. There is an ongoing dilemma involving blacks going around and harming whites simply because they are white. That is black on white racism, and it *is* an issue. Are you for real? Let a white person use the N word in front of a black person and see what happens. There are whites who initially voted for Dear Leader before opting for someone else, and have been literally silenced for fear of being quickly and wrongfully labeled a racist. You know I'm right.
    You still don't comprehend what I'm talking about in terms of Racism. Its not unique to whites, it even effects how blacks view blacks, as the article I mentioned which no one read pointed out the famous knife experiment. Where people were shown a picture of 2 white guys , 1 holding a knife then asked which person held the knife, the majority of people selected correctly.

    Now, they were shown a picture of a black and a white guy holding a knife, and asked to select who was holding the knife, and miraculously the majority of people even black selected the black guy which was incorrect, the knife was being held by the white guy. Scientist then asked why was this, the answer social conditioning made our minds more accepting to the black guy holding the knife. People aren't saying that Obama is experiencing overt racism, but he is experiencing a level of disrespect different from other presidents. Moreover it seems difficult for some people to comprehend he has been successful. This isn't my guess they did an experiment showing his job creatin graph , he's created millions by the way but when folks who were looking right at the graph were asked if he created or lost, they answered lost. I mean how do you explain that cognitive dissonance, Obama has done better objectively measured than Reagan with his economy but people make ridiculous claims or refuse to believe the numbers? I mean no president has had to deal with the level of doubt he has... From whether he was American, (not like us)... To numbers being published by independent committees as not true? This is the Racism he faces and what people mean by it. And most people aren't even conscious of this behavior we are not color blind. That's the scientific opinion not mine.
    12-12-2014 03:04 PM
  23. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Ok what is he number of whites being harmed by blacks simply because they are white. Can you enlighten me on the statistics , actually i already know the answer,
    No, I cannot, but I don't need to in this regard. There have been 4 alleged racial instances being heavily covered by the media featuring white against blacks... 4 ..., and yet somehow, the problem is considered epidemic. No stats are involved - just spoken words that no one is suppose to question.
    and Before you go down a path that's so easily disproved, most harm is intra-racial, predominately from a Criminal standpoint blacks harm blacks, and whites harm whites.
    Okay, but this has nothing to do with the racism you mentioned in your previous reply.
    12-12-2014 03:13 PM
  24. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    You still don't comprehend what I'm talking about in terms of Racism.
    I'm clearly comprehended what you stated in your above post that contained my original reply.
    Its not unique to whites,
    I never said that it was
    it even effects how blacks view blacks,
    Wrong! It may affect how some blacks view other blacks. Example: if I'm walking with my family, and I see a group of blacks that I perceived to be thugs (whether they are or not), I'm going to prepare myself to defend my family. Racism has nothing to do with my thought process in that regard.
    as the article I mentioned which no one read pointed out the famous knife experiment. Where people were shown a picture of 2 white guys , 1 holding a knife then asked which person held the knife, the majority of people selected correctly.
    Okay

    Now, they were shown a picture of a black and a white guy holding a knife, and asked to select who was holding the knife, and miraculously the majority of people even black selected the black guy which was incorrect, the knife was being held by the white guy.
    personally, I find it hard to believe. I suppose I'm just too aware of things. Anyway, you make it seem as if everyone will make the wrong choice if everyone had viewed the photo.
    Scientist then asked why was this, the answer social conditioning made our minds more accepting to the black guy holding the knife.
    Again, that may have been the case for the people involved, but it's not enough to make the assumption universal, in my opinion.
    People aren't saying that Obama is experiencing overt racism, but he is experiencing a level of disrespect different from other presidents. Moreover it seems difficult for some people to comprehend he has been successful.
    I can straight up tell you that I can't stand the man, and I'll leave it at that.
    This isn't my guess they did an experiment showing his job creatin graph , he's created millions by the way but when folks who were looking right at the graph were asked if he created or lost, they answered lost. I mean how do you explain that cognitive dissonance, Obama has done better objectively measured than Reagan with his economy but people make ridiculous claims or refuse to believe the numbers? I mean no president has had to deal with the level of doubt he has... From whether he was American, (not like us)... To numbers being published by independent committees as not true? This is the Racism he faces and what people mean by it. And most people aren't even conscious of this behavior we are not color blind. That's the scientific opinion not mine.
    maybe I'm wrong, but you appear to want others to accept your opinion and research but you disregard the opinions and research of others as totally false. Stats and facts can manipulated. Remember that. Anyway, I've got parental duties to take care of. Take care and enjoy your weekend...
    12-12-2014 03:31 PM
  25. A895's Avatar
    No, I cannot, but I don't need to in this regard. There have been 4 alleged racial instances being heavily covered by the media featuring white against blacks... 4 ..., and yet somehow, the problem is considered epidemic. No stats are involved - just spoken words that no one is suppose to question. .
    Are you serious? There have been multiple incidents of white on black that DON'T get covered by the media at all. It is something esle that the ones that did happen got covered at all. I have personally seen maybe in the neighborhood of 20 videos this year if racial profiling where white cops assaulted or shot unarmed black men. Not every incident makes it into the umbrella of mainstream media.
    12-12-2014 03:36 PM
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