ObamaCare architect admits 'lack of transparency' strategy

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A discussion is one thing; a bashing is another thing.

Being assertive is one thing; being aggressive is another thing.

Being respectful is one thing; being arrogant is another thing.

Yes, except only liberals are permitted to bash.
Chuckles @ the fact we can't discuss the truth. This administration mislead the American people... As typical you refuse to see or discuss the truth.. Obama care is a Tax.. A redistribution of wealth.

In fairness all administrations mislead the public...
Well said again!
 

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Chuckles @ the fact we can't discuss the truth. This administration mislead the American people... As typical you refuse to see or discuss the truth.. Obama care is a Tax.. A redistribution of wealth.

In fairness all administrations mislead the public...

I seriously doubt anyone would want to discuss it with you due to your demeanor. You're right and everyone else is wrong. Just like you said over at Android Central, "...We need to Jam it down the throat of the Democrats, No mercy..." Election Results 2014 - Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com
 

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Quickly everyone: Write something political before the final vote to remove political threads from the forums takes place...:big-hug::crying:
 

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I seriously doubt anyone would want to discuss it with you due to your demeanor. You're right and everyone else is wrong. Just like you said over at Android Central, "...We need to Jam it down the throat of the Democrats, No mercy..." Election Results 2014 - Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com

And yet if he were a liberal who said "...We need to Jam it down the throat of the Republicans, No mercy..." then everything would be okay. You liberals are so hypocritical.
 

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A redistribution of wealth.

In fairness all administrations mislead the public...

Which redistribution are you talking about???

Oh wait.... it's the conservative buzz word to coverup the REAL redistribution that's been going on for years.

The number of billionaires in the US since Obama took office in 2009 has DOUBLED.

How do you explain that?


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Which redistribution are you talking about???

Oh wait.... it's the conservative buzz word to coverup the REAL redistribution that's been going on for years.

The number of billionaires in the US since Obama took office in 2009 has DOUBLED.

How do you explain that?


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Magic fairy dust?
 

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Billionaires Secretly Love Obamacare: Expert Reveals Why...

"But why would Buffett and Soros support a bill that tacks an additional 3.8% tax on dividends, interest, rent, capital gains, annuities, and home sales for anyone making over $200,000 ($250,000 for joint filers)?

These two famed investors aren't just supporting the bill. They've been making specific investments based on what's written in the new law."

The latest 13F filings show that last quarter Soros' fund, Soros Group Management, bought 125,000 shares of Gilead Sciences, a research-based biopharmaceutical company that discovers, develops and markets medicines.

The fund also purchased 250,000 shares of pharmaceutical giant Merck, 100,000 shares of Bristol-Myers Squibb, and two of his top 10 holdings now include Johnson & Johnson and WebMD.

Filings for Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway show that in the year since Obamacare was upheld by the Supreme Court, the fund bought 5.67 million shares of DaVita HealthCare Partners, a leading provider of kidney dialysis services.

Buffett and Soros aren't the only billionaires making big bets because of Obamacare.

In the 12 months after Obamacare passed Carl Icahn has snatched up 4.3 million shares of drug manufacturer Forest Labs, which is Icahn's fourth largest holding. Icahn also holds 5.9 million shares of Enzon Pharmaceuticals and 6.7 million shares of WebMD.

Billionaire Ken Fisher of Fisher Asset Management bought over 9.8 million shares of Pfizer, the quarter immediately following the passage of Obamacare.

Billionaire David Einhorn who heads Greenlight Capital bought 6.7 million shares of health insurer Aetna and 4.9 million shares of its competitor Cigna in the past year.

John Paulson of Paulson & Co. has caught on as well this past year, buying 6.5 million shares of Aetna, and 963,000 shares of Jazz Pharmaceuticals, a specialty biopharmaceutical company.

Finally, in the past 12 months billionaire Leon Cooperman of Omega Advisors has bought 945,827 shares of Express Scripts, the largest distributor of prescription drugs.

Remember, 13f filings aren't released until months after trades have already been made, allowing big investors to act quietly."



In short... billionaires will make BILLIONS off of Obamacare.


How's that for redistribution???????
 

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Obamacare is a cash cow.. the “cost” of Obamacare, $2 trillion. If the government weren’t spending $2 trillion on insurance coverage, that’s money that could be going to reducing the deficit, spending more on infrastructure..
 

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Obamacare is a cash cow.. the ?cost? of Obamacare, $2 trillion. If the government weren?t spending $2 trillion on insurance coverage, that?s money that could be going to reducing the deficit, spending more on infrastructure..
Or vacations!
 

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Re: Billionaires Secretly Love Obamacare: Expert Reveals Why...

"But why would Buffett and Soros support a bill that tacks an additional 3.8% tax on dividends, interest, rent, capital gains, annuities, and home sales for anyone making over $200,000 ($250,000 for joint filers)?

These two famed investors aren't just supporting the bill. They've been making specific investments based on what's written in the new law."

The latest 13F filings show that last quarter Soros' fund, Soros Group Management, bought 125,000 shares of Gilead Sciences, a research-based biopharmaceutical company that discovers, develops and markets medicines.

The fund also purchased 250,000 shares of pharmaceutical giant Merck, 100,000 shares of Bristol-Myers Squibb, and two of his top 10 holdings now include Johnson & Johnson and WebMD.

Filings for Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway show that in the year since Obamacare was upheld by the Supreme Court, the fund bought 5.67 million shares of DaVita HealthCare Partners, a leading provider of kidney dialysis services.

Buffett and Soros aren't the only billionaires making big bets because of Obamacare.

In the 12 months after Obamacare passed Carl Icahn has snatched up 4.3 million shares of drug manufacturer Forest Labs, which is Icahn's fourth largest holding. Icahn also holds 5.9 million shares of Enzon Pharmaceuticals and 6.7 million shares of WebMD.

Billionaire Ken Fisher of Fisher Asset Management bought over 9.8 million shares of Pfizer, the quarter immediately following the passage of Obamacare.

Billionaire David Einhorn who heads Greenlight Capital bought 6.7 million shares of health insurer Aetna and 4.9 million shares of its competitor Cigna in the past year.

John Paulson of Paulson & Co. has caught on as well this past year, buying 6.5 million shares of Aetna, and 963,000 shares of Jazz Pharmaceuticals, a specialty biopharmaceutical company.

Finally, in the past 12 months billionaire Leon Cooperman of Omega Advisors has bought 945,827 shares of Express Scripts, the largest distributor of prescription drugs.

Remember, 13f filings aren't released until months after trades have already been made, allowing big investors to act quietly."



In short... billionaires will make BILLIONS off of Obamacare.


How's that for redistribution???????

This has nothing to do with conservatives as "most" of these "billionaires" contributed to Obama's campaign.

Redistribution of wealth?? Let's see here:

Considering OC was built on the premise that the healthy would be paying in to help pay for the "less healthy". So buy taking more money, in the form of taxes known as OC, from the healthy is, in fact, redistribution. Take from the more fortunate and give to the less fortunate.

Obama preyed on the "stupidity" of the voter to get OC passed. What's funny is that no Republican voted for it nor wanted it....so Obama was preying on the stupidity of the "democrat" voter. Our Democrat president just called the democrat voter that voted him to office "STUPID"!!! He is so right.....
 

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"I don't even know what's in the bill"


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Which tea party?

1. a social gathering in the afternoon at which tea, cakes, and other light refreshments are served.

2. The Tea Party movement is an American political movement known for its conservative positions and its role in the Republican Party ("GOP"). It demands a reduction in the U.S. national debt and federal budget deficit by reducing government spending and taxes.

Chuckles....I happen to like both...Chuckles
 

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"I don't even know what's in the bill"


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Neither did Nancy Pelosi of California's 12th district.
 

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Which tea party?

1. a social gathering in the afternoon at which tea, cakes, and other light refreshments are served.

2. The Tea Party movement is an American political movement known for its conservative positions and its role in the Republican Party ("GOP"). It demands a reduction in the U.S. national debt and federal budget deficit by reducing government spending and taxes.

Chuckles....I happen to like both...Chuckles

They also want a smaller government and for government to get out of the peoples way.....
 

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They also want a smaller government and for government to get out of the peoples way.....

Exactly...

The Founders believed, and the Conservative agrees, in the dignity of the individual; that we, as human beings, have a right to live, live freely, and pursue that which motivates us not because man or some government says so, but because these are God-given natural rights.
 

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