1. RKMichael's Avatar
    Here is a good example.

    I was listening to a podcast while surfing this forum. Then I saw the thread about the iPad installed in someone's truck. I clicked the thread, saw a video, then wanted to pause the podcast. I had to leave the browser, go to the homescreen, go to theiPod app, pause the podcast, then return and play the video. That was kind of a pain.

    With true multitasking, I could've switched between cards or windows or accessed a dashboard function much more quickly and easily.

    Just an example.
    YES! That is almost the exact example I was thinking of when I posed the question!
    04-06-2010 01:35 PM
  2. RKMichael's Avatar
    Still not sure if I want to drink the Kool-Aid just yet...
    04-06-2010 01:38 PM
  3. ifarlow's Avatar
    I wasn't sure if I wanted one or not, but I took the leap yesterday afternoon and I'm glad I did. It is an experience that's difficult to explain, but I agree that it's not simply a bigger iPhone or iPod Touch. Very nice.

    Where do I see myself using it? At home when I'm in the living room, in the car as a passenger on trips, in the hotel room... there are plenty of opportunities. For example, I currently use my iPhone to look up info on IMDb, but the bigger screen of the iPad is so much nicer for browsing info like that. I could always just use my iPhone, sure, but when screen size matters, I will use the iPad. When portability matters more, I will use the iPhone. Additionally, the iPhone goes everywhere with me, and the iPad will be with me only as needed. It's just a different beast for different purposes.

    Something I found interesting... I was concerned that the iPhone wouldn't seem important enough to keep after messing with the iPad, especially considering the huge difference in screen sizes, but in reality I find that the iPhone is still a very capable and useful tool in conjunction with the iPad. The size of the iPhone is just right, and since it is effectively as powerful as the iPad, it's still an amazing device.

    So, I'm glad I went for it. And I'm glad I went after the weekend... no crowds to fight.
    04-06-2010 01:54 PM
  4. GinoDotCom's Avatar
    Originally Posted by dcsatt
    The only thing similar between the iPad and an iPod Touch is the user interface.
    A Ferrari has the same user interface (gas, brake, clutch, and steering wheel) as a Ford Focus, but they're completely different machines otherwise incomparable.
    Same with the iPad vis-a-vis iPod Touch."



    The experience is completely different and not a lot of naysayers will know that unless one physically plays with this device for a bit.

    Usually when people have told me the iPad is nothing but a big iPod touch... It's somewhat been directed in a negative form and in a tone of "why should I waste my money, it's nothing new" ?

    It's much more than a bigger screen, to me at least. It really feels like cutting edge new technology that I'm not used to having. This to me is fascinating. Upgrading to a 55inch LCD from a 32inch plasma while nice, is no innovation.

    Having such a thin yet sharp screen right on my lap is beyond the definition of an oversized iPod touch.. Even though it's essential just that! Overall, this magical feeling that I have experienced is Really difficult to explain unless you held an iPad in your hands and gave it a good test drive.
    Last edited by GinoDotCom; 04-07-2010 at 01:49 PM.
    04-07-2010 01:43 PM
  5. sting7k's Avatar
    I guess it's just perspective then. When I played with it at Best Buy yes I admit it was "cool" and the screen awesome. But after having used the iPhone for almost 3 years now too me it brings nothing new to the table other than having a bigger screen. And for me the fact that it really cannot stand alone without iTunes is what relegates it to being a big iPod Touch.

    Right now for me at least it doesn't fill a roll that I have empty. And $500 to watch movies, browse the web, play games, listen to music, etc. on a bigger screen while on a plane, subway, car ride, in a waiting room is something I'm right now going to be spending. Especially like I've said for a long time, my iPhone does all those things and fits in my pocket. Even on the couch it would obviously be nicer to have the bigger screen and my iPhone has mostly taken over my couch internet use from my laptop. But again, $500 to browse the web on a big screen...don't need it. That's all I would use it for in my house, as said above on my couch there is a 46" TV on the wall. I'm never going sit and watch a Netflix movie on something else, I already stream Netflix movies from my Xbox to the TV.

    For me the iPad should be doing a lot more. I can't quite put my finger on it. But it needs to be untethered from iTunes and my laptop. It should probably be running the same iTunes I see on my laptop and streaming content wirelessly from my laptop with iTunes. I just wasn't wowed by a big version of a 3 year old device I guess.

    I will certainly be watching where this goes. But right now, when I pick one up; no matter how awesome, engaging, and pretty everything looks on that big screen, I just see a bigger version of what I already carry around in my pocket every day. Hopefully someday Steve will convince me otherwise. I'm a gadget guy too and I'm surprised I am not more into this thing.
    04-07-2010 02:24 PM
  6. PhxBlue's Avatar
    Its a fun "more space" to do what you already do on your iPhone type of device. Not a workhorse productivity get stuff done type of device. PLUS it makes a great steering wheel for the racing games (thats my personal enjoyment)!
    04-07-2010 02:28 PM
  7. Garz's Avatar
    Don't come and post how awful it is. This thing is incredible at doing what it was meant to do (browsing, media, apps, books).

    The iPad is going to make the iPhone look like it was nothing.
    iPad is nice but you cant just stick it in your pocket and go like the iPhone. You cant compare the two as they are different beasts
    04-07-2010 02:30 PM
  8. JohnH59's Avatar
    Its a fun "more space" to do what you already do on your iPhone type of device. Not a workhorse productivity get stuff done type of device. PLUS it makes a great steering wheel for the racing games (thats my personal enjoyment)!
    I have to differ on the productivity. I installed LogMeIn and remoted to my office computer and servers. It's MUCH better than remoting in using my iPhone. Working on documents in Pages and Documents to Go is much easier on the larger screen. I usually carry a laptop, but the instant on makes the device much easier to use. Even with my laptop, I would generally use LogMeIn of GoToMyPc since 3G tethering is slow compared to WiFi. By using these tools, you get the application speed from the host computer since the only thing being sent is screen shots. So, I tether the iPad (or use a ClearWire Mobile Hotspot), then launch LogMeIn and it's like sitting at my desk.
    04-07-2010 02:45 PM
  9. BriDroid's Avatar
    I have to differ on the productivity. I installed LogMeIn and remoted to my office computer and servers. It's MUCH better than remoting in using my iPhone. Working on documents in Pages and Documents to Go is much easier on the larger screen. I usually carry a laptop, but the instant on makes the device much easier to use. Even with my laptop, I would generally use LogMeIn of GoToMyPc since 3G tethering is slow compared to WiFi. By using these tools, you get the application speed from the host computer since the only thing being sent is screen shots. So, I tether the iPad (or use a ClearWire Mobile Hotspot), then launch LogMeIn and it's like sitting at my desk.
    I'm looking forward to trying out LogMeIn. I plan on pushing my iPad to the max regarding productivity and work. I really am going to see how often I can use my iPad in place of my MBP. It should be fun!
    04-07-2010 03:01 PM
  10. ColbyM#AC's Avatar
    [QUOTE=ifonline;1564235]Yep. Windows based tablets have been around for years, but they never seemed to catch on with anything but select business markets (medical, manufacturing, etc),QUOTE]

    Completely true. My dad is a surgeon and his workplace supplied him with a tablet running Windows XP Tablet Edition. (Never heard of this version of XP until I saw it on this tablet)
    04-07-2010 03:30 PM
  11. Earless Puppy's Avatar
    When I say the Iphone will look like nothing, I meant it in terms of number sold
    more iPads have been sold on day on then the original iPhone sold on day on
    04-07-2010 03:46 PM
  12. BriDroid's Avatar
    [QUOTE=ColbyM;1565006]
    Yep. Windows based tablets have been around for years, but they never seemed to catch on with anything but select business markets (medical, manufacturing, etc),QUOTE]

    Completely true. My dad is a surgeon and his workplace supplied him with a tablet running Windows XP Tablet Edition. (Never heard of this version of XP until I saw it on this tablet)
    I suspect that Windows XP Tablet Edition offers up some tweaking specific to the tablet medium, but I think where other tablets fall short and where the iPad will succeed is the interface -- a tablet PC is still running Windows, thus Windows OS is being "squished" into a tablet design and, in my opinion, is still clunky and awkward to use, much like a netbook is all fine and dandy to have for its smaller size but the OS is still ill-designed for use on a smaller device. The iPad offers up a finger-friendly OS that iPhone users in particular are extremely comfortable with and the instant-on/instant-off feature is a tremendous plus. It won't be long until doctors and other professionals are carrying iPads in lieu of other tablet alternatives.
    04-07-2010 03:50 PM
  13. RKMichael's Avatar
    Yes that is true but at the same time the iPad is runnign an OS that was designed for much smaller device...just trying to play devil's advocate on that one...
    04-07-2010 04:25 PM
  14. BriDroid's Avatar
    Ok, Mr. Devil's Advocate Yes, the iPhone OS is made for a smaller device (likely explaining the miles of real estate between app icons on the iPad). I suppose the beauty of the iPad is an elegant form factor, usability, portability, and an OS powerful enough to take care of the day-to-day tasks you may have, including some light (possibly even heavy) word processing, spreadsheets, and even presentations. I still scratch my head when people think it's not capable of being a business device. I aim to prove them wrong! Bwah-hahahaha!
    04-07-2010 05:09 PM
  15. west3man's Avatar
    Those are some fair points (from what I skimmed).

    The iTunes-dependency is a giant pain. I suppose it is not absolutely necessary unless you want your podcasts automatically downloaded and that sort of thing.

    Of course, I still haven't figured out how to set up contacts and calendar (ie. using them with my Google contacts and calendars). Maybe that requires syncing with iTunes. Dunno.

    I guess it's just perspective then. When I played with it at Best Buy yes I admit it was "cool" and the screen awesome. But after having used the iPhone for almost 3 years now too me it brings nothing new to the table other than having a bigger screen. And for me the fact that it really cannot stand alone without iTunes is what relegates it to being a big iPod Touch.

    Right now for me at least it doesn't fill a roll that I have empty. And $500 to watch movies, browse the web, play games, listen to music, etc. on a bigger screen while on a plane, subway, car ride, in a waiting room is something I'm right now going to be spending. Especially like I've said for a long time, my iPhone does all those things and fits in my pocket. Even on the couch it would obviously be nicer to have the bigger screen and my iPhone has mostly taken over my couch internet use from my laptop. But again, $500 to browse the web on a big screen...don't need it. That's all I would use it for in my house, as said above on my couch there is a 46" TV on the wall. I'm never going sit and watch a Netflix movie on something else, I already stream Netflix movies from my Xbox to the TV.

    For me the iPad should be doing a lot more. I can't quite put my finger on it. But it needs to be untethered from iTunes and my laptop. It should probably be running the same iTunes I see on my laptop and streaming content wirelessly from my laptop with iTunes. I just wasn't wowed by a big version of a 3 year old device I guess.

    I will certainly be watching where this goes. But right now, when I pick one up; no matter how awesome, engaging, and pretty everything looks on that big screen, I just see a bigger version of what I already carry around in my pocket every day. Hopefully someday Steve will convince me otherwise. I'm a gadget guy too and I'm surprised I am not more into this thing.
    04-08-2010 09:21 AM
  16. cardfan's Avatar
    Those are some fair points (from what I skimmed).

    The iTunes-dependency is a giant pain. I suppose it is not absolutely necessary unless you want your podcasts automatically downloaded and that sort of thing.

    Of course, I still haven't figured out how to set up contacts and calendar (ie. using them with my Google contacts and calendars). Maybe that requires syncing with iTunes. Dunno.
    You can use google sync. Set Up Your iPhone or iPod Touch for Google Sync : Google Sync - Google Mobile Help Works on iphone..should on iPad but haven't tried it. Since you have a Pre, i'd say this is best for you.
    04-08-2010 09:37 AM
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