1. Eileen89's Avatar
    REALLY shocked that so many people are giving up their 3 and retina display for a poorer quality display in the Mini. I was really surprised that Apple took a step backwards with display quality for the mini, especially now that it's still behind the Kindle Fire HD and Nook HD in display...

    I own an iPad 3, and my fianc has my old 2. I can't even look at the 2 for more than 2 minutes anymore without missing retina display. I mean, I get it...smaller size, portability factor. But what good are those things if the display is a leap BACK from what you're used to? This is all, of course, my OWN thought process and logic. I know I'd have buyer's remorse going from the beautiful retina display to a SLIGHTLY better iPad 2 display.

    REALLY wanted a mini before I saw the keynote, and now more than ever, will be sticking by my iPad 3.
    You as well as a lot of others are acting like the iPad Mini's display is going to be the worst thing ever. The screen on the iPad Mini is going to be better than the iPad 2's, that being the case, I hardly think there will be a whole lot of people suffering from buyers remorse as you put it. Let's not forget about the smaller size factor that the iPad Mini brings to the table, which is something that myself and others have been wanting for a long time.
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    10-27-2012 04:53 PM
  2. dbeddie15's Avatar
    Why would I downgrade? The iPad 3 is plenty portable with a significantly better display, and my iPhone 5 is plenty capable in situations where I need something pocketable. Don't see the point of the mini from my own perspective.
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    10-27-2012 07:12 PM
  3. smileyboy's Avatar
    I sold my iPad 3 and I'm selling my wife's iPad 3 32gb LTE. She wants a mini too


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    10-27-2012 09:17 PM
  4. smileyboy's Avatar
    I think this is just Apple putting feelers out there. The mini basically is all iPad 2 parts. Next iteration will have wifi... They just wanted to make sure we will buy it.

    If you don't like it... Don't buy one.


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    10-27-2012 09:19 PM
  5. leathernuts#WP's Avatar
    The mini is intriguing , but why on earth would I get rid of my iPad 3 for a mini or a 4? Like one user said, my iPhone 5 is pocketable and the iPad IS plenty portable, has a beautiful large screen, quick and excellent battery. The mini would be a downgrade in my opinion. And anyone complaining about the iPad 3 weight, GO LIFT SOME WEIGHTS YOU WEAKLING! Seriously though I'm surprised by people's issue with the weight-cracks me up. Wasn't long ago everyone was lugging around laptops and suddenly the iPad is too heavy. Anyways, if your on a 2 or 1, then I think the mini or 4 would be a great upgrade, but from the 3, it would just be a waste of money IMO.
    10-28-2012 02:16 AM
  6. ivhs72's Avatar
    Ordered the 64gb iPad mini on the first day. Since I'm on Sprint, this is the first time that I can get a cellular option on an iPad. Went with the mini over the 4 due to the size. I like the iPad 3's retina display, but it's just a little too big for me. I have a B&N Nook, and I really like the size of that, but do not like the OS that's on it. I think the mini will be a good compromise for what I use the iPad for. Since the cellular ones won't ship/deliver before mid-November, I'll have a chance to see the mini display vs. the retina in an Apple store, and if I don't like what I see, I can cancel my order before it ships.
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    10-28-2012 02:29 AM
  7. Garz's Avatar
    I think some people are underestimating the screen quality on the iPad Mini. I've had retina on my iPad 3 for 7 months and don't think I'll have any issues at all adjusting to the resolution on the iPad Mini's screen.


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    Here is the difference in PPI. Retina iPad 264. iPad 2 132. iPad mini 163. Yes iPad mini will have a little improvement from iPad 2 but it's not going to be anywhere near retina quality. Its 30 better than iPad 2 but 100 PPI behind retina iPad. You may not have issues adjusting. After playing with a iPad 2 tonight at Apple, I couldn't imagine using a iPad screen anywhere near that again. I don't think we all are under estimating. If a retina iPad mini comes out from a year from now, I'll add that to my iOS device collection.
    10-28-2012 03:58 AM
  8. tracy08's Avatar
    I would have considered iPad Mini, iPad if it doesn't cost $329 for 16GB version.
    10-28-2012 04:15 AM
  9. cardfan's Avatar
    Here is the difference in PPI. Retina iPad 264. iPad 2 132. iPad mini 163. Yes iPad mini will have a little improvement from iPad 2 but it's not going to be anywhere near retina quality. Its 30 better than iPad 2 but 100 PPI behind retina iPad. You may not have issues adjusting. After playing with a iPad 2 tonight at Apple, I couldn't imagine using a iPad screen anywhere near that again. I don't think we all are under estimating. If a retina iPad mini comes out from a year from now, I'll add that to my iOS device collection.
    If an ipad mini with retina can be made in a year while still retaining its thinness & lightness, I'd add it too. Such a device would also need Apple's current chip, not an old one. I'm not sure exactly how this could be viable for Apple with their current prices for it. I imagine it would cost as much if not more than the ipad 4 to make. That's 20481536 on a 7.9" screen.

    That's what keeps me from assuming they'll be coming out with a retina model anytime soon. The ipad mini is about being cheaper, thin, and light.
    10-28-2012 07:58 AM
  10. Eileen89's Avatar
    Here is the difference in PPI. Retina iPad 264. iPad 2 132. iPad mini 163. Yes iPad mini will have a little improvement from iPad 2 but it's not going to be anywhere near retina quality. Its 30 better than iPad 2 but 100 PPI behind retina iPad. You may not have issues adjusting. After playing with a iPad 2 tonight at Apple, I couldn't imagine using a iPad screen anywhere near that again. I don't think we all are under estimating. If a retina iPad mini comes out from a year from now, I'll add that to my iOS device collection.
    You missed the entire point of my post if all you took away from it that I was saying the screen on the Mini was going to be as good as the retina screen on the iPad 3. I think there is a huge misconception that the the iPad Mini is in competition with the iPad 3 or even the 4, but it's not and was never meant to be. So to keep saying how the iPad Mini screen is a downgrade from the iPad 3 is just ridiculous if ya ask me. The iPad Mini is in the "smaller" class of tablets and that is what it should be compared to, not with the "larger" class iPad 3 or 4. Although I don't have my Mini yet, "if" I can still run all of my apps and view emails and Safari like I could on my iPad 3, it will not be a downgrade to me. Don't need or want a iPad Mini? Great, but there is no need to keep putting down the screen on the iPad Mini. That said, I'm not going to be reading with my iPad Mini side by side with iPad 3 anyway, and I think as far as reading goes, I won't have any problems at all reading the text on the Mini.

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    The ipad mini is about being cheaper, thin, and light.
    Exactly! The iPad Mini was not built to compete with Retina devices such as the iPad 3 and 4. It is however, meant to compete with smaller tablets like the Kindle Fire, Nexus 7, ect., and I think it will do just that based on the preorder sell out times that were seen.
    LCW and stinkballs like this.
    10-28-2012 11:04 AM
  11. Realistiic's Avatar
    I think I'll wait to see the screen 1st, if it was retina there would be no question.
    10-28-2012 01:53 PM
  12. rednocturne307's Avatar
    I don't get why anyone would get rid of an iPad 3 to get a mini unless it was purely because they desired the form factor and were willing to give everything else up.

    I feel like the iPad mini is really targeted toward people who don't already have an iPad because they couldn't afford it (AKA people like me lol).
    10-28-2012 02:57 PM
  13. smileyboy's Avatar
    It for people that still have iPad/iPad 2's, find the iPad too big, expensive. So much ragging on people for selling their iPad 3's. To each their own.


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    10-28-2012 03:39 PM
  14. Gregz0r's Avatar
    I'm selling my iPad 3 to get a mini.
    For me, Retina - whilst great, doesn't outweigh the increased weight the iPad 3 has over the iPad 2(which we use at work), and I find the 3rd generation iPad to be relatively underpowered, and even a little sluggish compared to the iPad 2.
    The CPU and GPU in the 3, don't make it perform any faster than the iPad 2.
    All that extra power, is dedicated to simply driving the extra pixels.
    The 8-hour charge(from the 2's 4 hours) was irritating as well.
    The fact that the 4th gen arrived so quickly, tells me that Apple realized all this too.
    10-28-2012 04:44 PM
  15. Gary86's Avatar
    I'm gonna check out the mini after my Chief's retirement on the 2nd. If it doesn't look bad (screen) then I'll sell my iPad 3 and get two minis for the wife and I. I think 2-32GB models.


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    10-28-2012 04:51 PM
  16. Gary86's Avatar
    The Navy Exchange here said they should get them launch day like in the past. If so, I'll swing by and scoop one up. Plus, NO TAX!


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    10-29-2012 06:21 AM
  17. Spdracer's Avatar
    Not getting rid of my iPad 3, but sold my wife's iPad 2 16GB Wifi only white yesterday for $300 and ordered the mini. Will be here mid November
    10-29-2012 11:47 AM
  18. pgood4's Avatar
    If you want to get an idea of what the pixel density will be like check out the original nook color. It has a 169 PPI density and to my eyes looks really good and I have an ipad 3 as well. The mini should be even better since it is using new display technology compared to the nook color. I would love it if the mini had a retina display, but I'll still be getting one since I've always felt 8" was the sweet spot size for me. I love my ipad 3, but would like something smaller and lighter as well.
    10-29-2012 03:39 PM
  19. stinkballs's Avatar
    If you want to get an idea of what the pixel density will be like check out the original nook color. It has a 169 PPI density and to my eyes looks really good and I have an ipad 3 as well. The mini should be even better since it is using new display technology compared to the nook color. I would love it if the mini had a retina display, but I'll still be getting one since I've always felt 8" was the sweet spot size for me. I love my ipad 3, but would like something smaller and lighter as well.
    I actually had the original Nook Color and it looked pretty darn good. Returned it of course. Ha, I don't even remember why. Personally, I agree with you- 8" is a sweet spot. The iPad3 is perfect in size but portability? A little too big. Good for around the house or at work, but taking it around with you not so much. I work for the fire department here and create pdf maps and threw them onto my iPads. I wanted something a little smaller so I tried the Nexus 7. That thing was sweet. Good size. Or so I thought. After a couple of months, I really wished it was a 'little' bigger. Browsing the net wasn't a good experience- a LOT of zooming and pinching. It was just a tad too small. (side note: Droid PDF apps blow) I sold the Nexus 7 only because my pdf's would just take too long to load on ALL of their top 5 rated PDF viewers. (of course fast on IOS)

    Anyway my iPad3 was sold yesterday to a close friend. Can't wait for the delivery!

    Aloha
    10-29-2012 05:44 PM
  20. pgood4's Avatar
    I had a nook color as well and remember the screen as being really nice. I stopped in the local Barnes and Noble today to take another look and I think I'll be pleased with the new screen. It's not retina, but I think the density will be fine and I'm definitely looking forward to the reduction in size and weight.
    10-29-2012 07:31 PM
  21. mikenyc2's Avatar
    I am surprised as well that so many people are giving up their iPad 3. I have an iPad 3 and was contemplating going to the mini. My issue with the mini is that the lightning connector isn't as flexible as the current connector. I bought the HDMI connector so I can go to a friends place and hook up my iPhone 4S or iPad 3 to watch videos or play games. Can't go that with the iPad mini. Even with the lightning to standard connector, that will not support the HDMI connector.
    10-30-2012 03:27 PM
  22. Gary86's Avatar
    I am surprised as well that so many people are giving up their iPad 3. I have an iPad 3 and was contemplating going to the mini. My issue with the mini is that the lightning connector isn't as flexible as the current connector. I bought the HDMI connector so I can go to a friends place and hook up my iPhone 4S or iPad 3 to watch videos or play games. Can't go that with the iPad mini. Even with the lightning to standard connector, that will not support the HDMI connector.
    Have your friend get an Apple TV lol, jk man.


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    10-30-2012 03:39 PM
  23. josh.ua's Avatar
    I have a 3rd Gen iPad and I am in the same boat as you. Ordered a mini (with LTE, my 3rd gen only has wifi) and plan on using it a lot more. As of right now I am planning on giving my 3rd gen to my mom for christmas since she doesn't even have a usable computer. Hopefully the non retina display isn't too bad. I doubt it will be since The iPad 2 display wasn't that bad and the mini will be even more dense.
    10-30-2012 11:41 PM
  24. Gary86's Avatar
    I have a 3rd Gen iPad and I am in the same boat as you. Ordered a mini (with LTE, my 3rd gen only has wifi) and plan on using it a lot more. As of right now I am planning on giving my 3rd gen to my mom for christmas since she doesn't even have a usable computer. Hopefully the non retina display isn't too bad. I doubt it will be since The iPad 2 display wasn't that bad and the mini will be even more dense.
    Read Engadget review. Talks about the display.

    Just came across this: http://bgr.com/2012/10/31/ipad-mini-criticism-display/

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    Last edited by Gary86; 10-31-2012 at 02:49 PM.
    10-31-2012 12:54 AM
  25. LCW's Avatar
    This makes me a bit nervous... I wonder how I will perceive the resolution once I get my mini on Friday... I had 3 which is now sold... Have an iphone 5 (had 4 and 4S), and have a retina MBP... So a lot of retina..... Now I'm mentally prepared that the mini screen won't be as good... Not the reason I'm trying one out (which is mainly for the size, weight, transportability), but still makes me wonder if I'll be able to adapt...

    Of course, the comments in the BGR article linked about are from Gruber who I find to be a flaming dickbag... so I take it with a grain of salt...
    10-31-2012 10:18 PM
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