1. fmflex's Avatar
    I really think the entry level mini should have been under $300, even if it was for an 8gb model. Psychological studies have shown that $300 is the threshold for the average consumer for impulse purchases. Anything over $300 and it is no longer in that "impulse purchase" realm.

    I know Apple doesn't have to worry about that because they're Apple and because it's an Apple product it will sell a bajillion. But I think they slightly missed the mark on price. They'll be missing out on a considerable sector of the purchasing public.
    I agree. I wanted to get the iPad mini and because of the non retina screen as well as price (I expected 249-299) I will not be getting one. Instead I will probably get another iPad 3 (apple selling refurb 16gb wifi for 379).

    For example when google announced the new chromebook for 249, I ordered one before I finished reading the press release. $300 is definitely a psychological threshold.
    10-25-2012 10:00 AM
  2. PRWBRIT's Avatar
    I think the price is a bit of a joke. I think the iphone, ipad and macbook are great.The problem with the price of the mini is that it is not far of the price of the old ipad 2. The competition the nexus, fire and balckberry tabs are all cheaper and of similiar size. They are obviously banking on people buying the name, Steve Jobs didn't think a mini version of the Ipad would work and in away he is right as it is not cost effective to the consumer. But they will sell. Yhe other qustion is the memory capacity, this is low I believe 16gb yes its a portable but you can purchase 32gb Kindle fire for less than the basic model of the ipad mini. The price does not justify the model.
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    10-25-2012 10:10 AM
  3. agentmobile's Avatar
    i think apple's pricing has gotten a bit weird too... im wondering how many people will just purchase this over the ipod touch.. just fork over a bit more and you get a tablet instead of an mp3 player.. (yea.. i know, it's so much more than an mp3 player blah blah blah..)
    Never really saw the point of the iPod touch if u have an iPhone as well....seems kind of redundant to own both. I'm def going with the new iPad with retina display though, I'm kind of on the fence about which I should choose between that and the mini, but considering I've never really owned a tablet myself, I figure I should go all out and grab the iPad 4. Since the apps are formatted to fit the iPad , are the apps bigger in size? Cause I was gonna just get the 16GB but I have a 32GB iPhone so I think I'll just go with a 32GB for the iPad as well, and I was leaning towards wifi only but now I'm thinking I should get the cellular one, for those of u who own iPads - what do I recommend? Do u use the cellular on it a lot?


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    10-25-2012 10:13 AM
  4. djstarion's Avatar
    I had a nexus 7 for two weeks and returned it. There are some good/bad things about it but I would rather have the iPad mini. The price is fair. It's not great and it's not outrageous. No one complained much about the $299 iPod touch. And now a $329 iPad mini is outrageous?

    It does offer many upgrades over iPad 2. I'm pretty sure it will be $299 for their Black Friday sale :-)

    Also why would apple want the low end tablet market and not make money on it? They can have it anytime they want by dropping the price. It's not as easy going the other way around. Remember the original iPhone and the price drop?
    I would have kept my N7 but I had so many issues with mine, and they were all hardware related. It just felt kind of cheap and I had a lot of screen separation issues., so I ended up returning it and getting the 7 inch Galaxy Tab 2, and it fits my needs perfectly. I like having the option of different ecosystems between Google Play and iTunes. As far as the iPad mini, I'd have to try it out first, but like someone else said, it'd almost be better to get the refurb iPad 3 for a bit more.
    10-25-2012 10:21 AM
  5. kralnor's Avatar
    It's more than I was hoping, but even then I was expecting $299.

    I think others expectations were too high. They wanted iPad 3/4 specs in a smaller size and Playbook pricing. It will never happen.

    It may be technology from the iPad 2, but it's still going to be a great device that will appeal to those wanting a smaller device. It may also draw in people (like me) who never adopted the regular iPad because of the $500+ price tag and large size.
    I was right there with you, but I just can't convince myself to pay $600 for a device that is 1.5 generations behind the curve in terms of the internals. I know I'll feel like a real dumbass in 6mos when my ipad mini is chugging along and they announce the new retina a5x version for the same price.

    I would have paid for a smaller iPad that was closer to the current generation, but I'm not that interested in a mini with the old chip. I realize current content doesn't require anything more powerful but this feels too much like jumping in on the shallow side of the pool.

    I'm thinking my first iPad will be the full size 4th gen at this point.
    10-25-2012 10:36 AM
  6. Shilohcane's Avatar
    I'd seriously like to see the source for that statement.

    - - - Updated - - -



    That will be true of many who purchase solely on price. The devices are significantly different and the iPad's specs are better, IMHO, but if one cannot afford $329, it's not an option for them.

    Some of the specs of the iPad mini are better than the Nexus 7 not all.

    The iPad mini weighs 0.68 lbs/308 grams. N7 weight is 0.75 lbs/340 grams

    The iPad Mini size 7.9 x 5.3 x 0.28 inches. N7 size 7.8 x 4.7 x 0.41 inches.

    iPad Mini display 7.9-inch IPS, 1,024x768 pixels (163 ppi). N7 display 7-inch IPS, 1,280x800 pixels (216 ppi)

    iPad storage 16GB, 32GB, or 64GB. N7 Storage currently 8GB, 16GB. (Note on 29th release 16GB, 32GB and 8GB model withdrawn)

    iPad Mini Camera 5-megapixel rear-facing, 1080p HD video; 1.2-megapixel front-facing camera, 720 HD video, N7 1.2-megapixel front-facing (No rear-facing)

    iPad Mini Battery"16.3-watt-hour"; 10 hours battery life (rated). N7 Battery 4,325 mAh; 10.1 hours video battery life (tested).

    iPad Mini Cell moden 4G LTE versions available. N7 currently Wi-Fi only ( Note rumor on 29th of 3G cell moden)

    iPad Mini color black or white. N7 black.

    iPad NFC no support. N7 NFC supported.

    iPad Mini Processor Dual-core A5 processor. N7 Processor Quad-core Nvidia Tegra 3.

    Price ( will all change on Nov 29th but N7 will be cheaper)

    For the record N7 Quad-core Nvidia Tegra 3 is twice as fast as the iPad 3 A5X processors which is faster than the iPad Mini A5.

    Video Nexus 7 vs iPad 3 CPU

    Nexus 7 vs iPad | Fastest Android Tablet EVER - YouTube
    10-25-2012 11:01 AM
  7. DigitalMadness's Avatar
    Can't compare tech to a car. In a few years the car, although not the newest and greatest will still run on same gas as a brand new one. Your tech in a few years will not be able to run the same software.

    I was not comparing tech to a car. I was just trying to point out the similarity of paying a premium for a brand. In this case Apple and BMW.
    People are willing to pay the premuim for the status and perceived benefit of the "Experience."

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    It is really high compared to Nexus 7,Kindle Fire HD and Nook HD. And these three android tablets are all great .
    But it is not an Apple.
    10-25-2012 12:35 PM
  8. DigitalMadness's Avatar
    However, with BMW you generally get a better overall product than, say, a Kia that still looks nice and is a decent enough car and will do pretty much exactly what the masses need/want. The mini isn't necessarily a better product than a Nexus 7 or a Fire HD just on screens alone.
    You are missing the point. I'm not saying the Apple Mini is better. Apple is selling (marketing) the Apple experience. This is what premium brand cars have been doing for decades.
    Unlike PC, comparing tablets base on specs is useless because they are running different OS and have different ecosystems. If consumers are choicing tablets base on specs, the BB Playbook would have been the #1 selling tablet.
    10-25-2012 12:46 PM
  9. Fausty82's Avatar
    Some of the specs of the iPad mini are better than the Nexus 7 not all.

    The iPad mini weighs 0.68 lbs/308 grams. N7 weight is 0.75 lbs/340 grams

    The iPad Mini size 7.9 x 5.3 x 0.28 inches. N7 size 7.8 x 4.7 x 0.41 inches.

    iPad Mini display 7.9-inch IPS, 1,024x768 pixels (163 ppi). N7 display 7-inch IPS, 1,280x800 pixels (216 ppi)

    iPad storage 16GB, 32GB, or 64GB. N7 Storage currently 8GB, 16GB. (Note on 29th release 16GB, 32GB and 8GB model withdrawn)

    iPad Mini Camera 5-megapixel rear-facing, 1080p HD video; 1.2-megapixel front-facing camera, 720 HD video, N7 1.2-megapixel front-facing (No rear-facing)

    iPad Mini Battery"16.3-watt-hour"; 10 hours battery life (rated). N7 Battery 4,325 mAh; 10.1 hours video battery life (tested).

    iPad Mini Cell moden 4G LTE versions available. N7 currently Wi-Fi only ( Note rumor on 29th of 3G cell moden)

    iPad Mini color black or white. N7 black.

    iPad NFC no support. N7 NFC supported.

    iPad Mini Processor Dual-core A5 processor. N7 Processor Quad-core Nvidia Tegra 3.

    Price ( will all change on Nov 29th but N7 will be cheaper)

    For the record N7 Quad-core Nvidia Tegra 3 is twice as fast as the iPad 3 A5X processors which is faster than the iPad Mini A5.

    Video Nexus 7 vs iPad 3 CPU

    Nexus 7 vs iPad | Fastest Android Tablet EVER - YouTube
    The specs that you left off the list:

    The iPad brings with it the Apple Experience... and the ecosystem - the app store and 275,000 apps.

    The price difference is not $130, but rather $80 for the 16GB model of each (the $199 Nexus 7 us an al). The iPad Mini has a rear camera, a larger viewing area, and offers cellular (LTE) connectivity - which the Nexus 7 does not. The iPad Mini is also lighter, thinner and has an aluminum case vs plastic on the Nexus 7...
    Last edited by Fausty82; 10-25-2012 at 01:23 PM.
    10-25-2012 12:48 PM
  10. scottae316's Avatar
    Disappointed in the price. I think they should have put the retina display for the price point. Someone pointed out that it costs $200 to build one leaving $129 for profit. Others have said that this is not a Kindle where they make profit from consumption. Um... First, Apple gets a cut from every app sold. Second that is a really high profit margin. Apple will sell truck loads of the mini, they could have sold boat loads if the specs were more in line with the price including 2 from me, now 0.
    10-25-2012 01:18 PM
  11. Jakob Adolfsson's Avatar
    The price honestly doesn't matter. It's Apple and they're going to sell! Why? Because Apple products are "cool" and they "work" unlike some other products. I remember when lost my iPhone 4 and I had to use a Droid Razr for a month. Lets just say I almost cried when I got another iPhone. They should steal Nike's slogan and change it to "Just Works"
    10-25-2012 01:25 PM
  12. briankeith513's Avatar
    Overall, I'm definitely disappointed in the price. However, just like everything else that Apple makes, it's usually better than the competition. Look at Macbook and it's build materials compared to most pc's. Then look at the iPhone and iPad build materials compared to their counterparts. Before we even talk specs and software, the build materials are premium. The strategy seems different between Apple and everyone else. Apple seems to put more into the build material and design, whereas the competitors seem to be ok with cheap stuff, as long as they can throw as many tablets and smartphones as possible to flood the market. They know many will buy it, as many people are ok with that Samsung-toy-like feel to their phones. As for me, as was said already, you are paying a premium price for a premium device. And thats very true in this case. I'm just going to stick with my trusty iPad 2 until next year, and decide then if I want the next version of the iPad, or the next version of the iPad mini.
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    10-25-2012 01:43 PM
  13. Jfountai's Avatar
    Yeah, if it was $199, heck i'd be up at midnight friday and get one, or even $250. If they had some cool colors like the touches, I would get one. But that $30 just makes me think about it. My kids would be the main ones using it and freeing up my Ipad 2. but thats a little steep. If it was $250, sure thing. but I think i'll wait till they come down or wait for the retina.
    10-25-2012 01:54 PM
  14. edodo0317's Avatar
    Seriously think they should lower the price across the board. It has been over 5 years since all the i-device launched. And they are continue to charged additional $100 on all the storage step up. Wish they really reconsider the pricing of their line of product.
    10-25-2012 02:37 PM
  15. Fausty82's Avatar
    Seriously think they should lower the price across the board. It has been over 5 years since all the i-device launched. And they are continue to charged additional $100 on all the storage step up. Wish they really reconsider the pricing of their line of product.
    That's not going to happen. They're selling more devices than they can make... why would they even consider lowering the price?
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    10-25-2012 03:12 PM
  16. Jakob Adolfsson's Avatar
    That's not going to happen. They're selling more devices than they can make... why would they even consider lowering the price?
    This might be the truest post on here! Supply & demand, it's simple economics really.
    10-25-2012 03:59 PM
  17. ajfloridian's Avatar
    No one seems to grasp that not only does Apple need to make "some" profit on a tablet that potentially costs them $200 to build. But, also if they were to price is at $199 or $249 then it would've had a serious sales impact first on their own big brother iPad. Once people look at this in reality they'll see it won't be much of a "compromised" useability experience compared to the big brother... and would've have happily bought the mini effectively killing the sales of the bigger iPad.

    It's only 1.8" smaller in screen size. Don't forget...

    So, they just can't "afford" to price it lower than $3xx IMHO. I bet they'll be watching closely what this does to iPad senior's sales numbers in the coming months...

    "We live in interesting times!!"
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    10-25-2012 04:03 PM
  18. Shilohcane's Avatar
    The specs that you left off the list:

    The iPad brings with it the Apple Experience... and the ecosystem - the app store and 275,000 apps.

    The price difference is not $130, but rather $80 for the 16GB model of each (the $199 Nexus 7 us an al). The iPad Mini has a rear camera, a larger viewing area, and offers cellular (LTE) connectivity - which the Nexus 7 does not. The iPad Mini is also lighter, thinner and has an aluminum case vs plastic on the Nexus 7...
    That price you quote is today's price minus the $25 in free Apps from Play-store. Those prices and N7 products will change on Monday (29th) when the N7 goes to only 32GB and 16GB and new prices. The 8GB N7 is withdrawn from sales now. The N7 is expecting at least a 3G cell modem model. I have an iPad and iPhone but my Apple experience wasn't any thing to put a extra value on. BTW, if I want to take a picture I use my iPhone or my digital camera instead of looking like a nerd using a tablet in front of my face saying "cheese"...
    10-25-2012 04:10 PM
  19. paulthefencer's Avatar
    I never understood that comment. You can't fit an iPad or iPad mini in your pants pocket like you can with the iPod. I have the iPad 3 and the iPod Touch 5th gen. I'm never without either devices. But for me, they each have their purpose. I do not put music on my iPad. That's the job for the iPod. I keep apps like various weather apps, the Starbucks card app, and a bunch of other apps as well on my iPod. But for the bigger apps that require reading, like iBooks, Kindle app, magazines etc, I use the iPad. Plus with regards to all the comments about hoping for an 8 gig iPad mini. With the size of the apps in the app store now, specifically because of the retina display ready apps, 8 gigs would be filled up in no time. An 8 gig iPad of any kind is useless anymore. In my own opinion.
    10-25-2012 04:21 PM
  20. Fausty82's Avatar
    That price you quote is today's price minus the $25 in free Apps from Play-store. Those prices and N7 products will change on Monday (29th) when the N7 goes to only 32GB and 16GB and new prices. The 8GB N7 is withdrawn from sales now. The N7 is expecting at least a 3G cell modem model. I have an iPad and iPhone but my Apple experience wasn't any thing to put a extra value on. BTW, if I want to take a picture I use my iPhone or my digital camera instead of looking like a nerd using a tablet in front of my face saying "cheese"...
    Then I suggest you go buy it. Everyone wants to compare the iPad/iPad Mini to the specs of the android tablets, and I have no problem with that at all... as a consumer, I would expect them to do nothing less... but these comparisons invariably leave off this stat or that stat that shine negatively on the product of their choice. I simply pointed out what is available for purchase now, spec'ed as its spec'ed today.

    IMHO, using your tablet (any tablet) as a point and shoot camera is folly except in rare occasions where it's necessary... but the memory configuration and cellular configuration of the currently available Nexus 7 is exactly as I stated. And my local Staples and Office Max both have 8GB models available for sale as of yesterday.

    And even with the N7 spec bump that you pointed out, Apple is still going to sell a crap load of iPad Minis... so with that, I'm done.

    Carry on.
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    10-25-2012 04:42 PM
  21. Wildo6882's Avatar
    That price you quote is today's price minus the $25 in free Apps from Play-store. Those prices and N7 products will change on Monday (29th) when the N7 goes to only 32GB and 16GB and new prices. The 8GB N7 is withdrawn from sales now. The N7 is expecting at least a 3G cell modem model. I have an iPad and iPhone but my Apple experience wasn't any thing to put a extra value on. BTW, if I want to take a picture I use my iPhone or my digital camera instead of looking like a nerd using a tablet in front of my face saying "cheese"...
    I have an iPhone 5. I absolutely LOVE this thing. But I wouldn't put a dollar value on this "Apple Experience" people keep claiming is worth extra money. Makes no sense to me. If this mini had an A5x at a minimum, and a retina display, you'd hear no complaints from me. But the apologists who say it's Apple, so you're paying for the Apple Experience need to stop. I have just as good of an experience on my N7 as I do on my iPhone.
    10-25-2012 04:52 PM
  22. Fausty82's Avatar
    I have an iPhone 5. I absolutely LOVE this thing. But I wouldn't put a dollar value on this "Apple Experience" people keep claiming is worth extra money. Makes no sense to me. If this mini had an A5x at a minimum, and a retina display, you'd hear no complaints from me. But the apologists who say it's Apple, so you're paying for the Apple Experience need to stop. I have just as good of an experience on my N7 as I do on my iPhone.
    Again, we're talking about a subjective thing. To you, the "Apple experience" either doesn't exist or is of no value. Fine. To me (and, apparently, others) it is. Seamless. Works with other iOS devices, AppleTV and MacBook Pro. Integrated experience. iCloud to sync contacts, calendars, data and app data. Got a problem? Go see an Apple Genius and get it taken care of. Yeah, for me, it's worth something.

    For example, I can purchase an app on my Apple iPhone and use it on my Apple iPod and/or Apple iPad. I don't have to purchase it again. If you buy it for your Apple iPhone, you can bet your bottom dollar that, if it's even available on the Google Nexus 7, it's gonna cost you again. Have a problem? Hope you're in your initial 14- or 30-day return period. Otherwise, you're more than likely shipping it off somewhere for service.

    Again, if you don't see the value in that, good for you. I do. That's all I mean when I talk about the "Apple Experience".
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    10-25-2012 04:59 PM
  23. LSglock89's Avatar
    I have an iPhone 5. I absolutely LOVE this thing. But I wouldn't put a dollar value on this "Apple Experience" people keep claiming is worth extra money. Makes no sense to me. If this mini had an A5x at a minimum, and a retina display, you'd hear no complaints from me. But the apologists who say it's Apple, so you're paying for the Apple Experience need to stop. I have just as good of an experience on my N7 as I do on my iPhone.
    You haven't experienced it enough Andrew. Seriously. The ease of integration is worth it. It just all works do well together and everything I buy is right there.

    Plus the build quality is amazing as you know.

    I'm okay with the screen display on the original iPad so I'm sure the iPad mini will be just as good.

    We shall see...if the money is in my bank account....I'll probably pre-order...it's what I have been waiting for.
    10-25-2012 05:56 PM
  24. Shilohcane's Avatar
    Then I suggest you go buy it. Everyone wants to compare the iPad/iPad Mini to the specs of the android tablets, and I have no problem with that at all... as a consumer, I would expect them to do nothing less... but these comparisons invariably leave off this stat or that stat that shine negatively on the product of their choice. I simply pointed out what is available for purchase now, spec'ed as its spec'ed today.

    IMHO, using your tablet (any tablet) as a point and shoot camera is folly except in rare occasions where it's necessary... but the memory configuration and cellular configuration of the currently available Nexus 7 is exactly as I stated. And my local Staples and Office Max both have 8GB models available for sale as of yesterday.

    And even with the N7 spec bump that you pointed out, Apple is still going to sell a crap load of iPad Minis... so with that, I'm done.

    Carry on.
    Well the new N7 Prices are out..and will have a cellular configuration

    32GB Nexus 7 Is Now Available From Office Depot

    Earlier this morning, Office Depot’s page for the 32GB Nexus 7 just went live. There is no picture of the device and it’s only available through in-store pickup. Regardless, it’s still available and only costs $249.99. You can buy one today and pick up it at the store.

    Interestingly enough, Office Depot is still selling the 16GB Nexus 7 for the same price as the newly revealed 32GB version. The price is probably going to drop to a more manageable $199 once Google’s Monday event rolls around.

    Google themselves are already hinting that the 8GB Nexus 7 is going to be killed off. The device is currently unavailable on Google Play. They may be taking a page out of Amazon’s playbook in how the retailer regularly discontinues products a few days before they’re going to be replaced.

    32GB Nexus 7 Is Now Available From Office Depot | WebProNews


    Also, 3G Modem

    Nexus 7 3G spotted at the FCC ahead of Google event

    3G Cell modem is a go for Monday...

    Nexus 7 3G spotted at the FCC ahead of Google event | Android Central
    Last edited by Shilohcane; 10-25-2012 at 06:39 PM.
    10-25-2012 06:12 PM
  25. Fausty82's Avatar
    Well the new N7 Prices are out..

    32GB Nexus 7 Is Now Available From Office Depot

    Earlier this morning, Office Depot’s page for the 32GB Nexus 7 just went live. There is no picture of the device and it’s only available through in-store pickup. Regardless, it’s still available and only costs $249.99. You can buy one today and pick up it at the store.

    Interestingly enough, Office Depot is still selling the 16GB Nexus 7 for the same price as the newly revealed 32GB version. The price is probably going to drop to a more manageable $199 once Google’s Monday event rolls around.

    Google themselves are already hinting that the 8GB Nexus 7 is going to be killed off. The device is currently unavailable on Google Play. They may be taking a page out of Amazon’s playbook in how the retailer regularly discontinues products a few days before they’re going to be replaced.

    32GB Nexus 7 Is Now Available From Office Depot | WebProNews


    Also, 3G Modem

    Nexus 7 3G spotted at the FCC ahead of Google event

    3G Cell modem is a go for Monday...

    Nexus 7 3G spotted at the FCC ahead of Google event | Android Central
    Well then... go vote with your wallet. I have.
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    10-25-2012 06:27 PM
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