1. BLiNK's Avatar
    pretty ****ing convenient Zimmerman is here to tell his story stories but not Trayvon smh

    i am having a very difficult time buying into the "self-defense" claim
    06-25-2012 05:44 PM
  2. jclisenby's Avatar
    I am. Stand your ground means that you can shoot someone that threatens or attacks you. He is well in his rights and the trial should prove this n
    06-25-2012 06:56 PM
  3. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    pretty ****ing convenient Zimmerman is here to tell his story stories but not Trayvon smh

    i am having a very difficult time buying into the "self-defense" claim
    Don't get caught up in the media circus, my friend. You will be disappointed every time. Hopefully, the trial will be televised so that everyone can listen to the facts and not an interpretation of the facts that the media is famous for providing us. Personally, I don't like the fact that Zimmerman opted to follow Trayvon after it was suggested that he do not, however, I'm not naive to assume that Trayvon was all innocent and noncombatant when his background suggests otherwise, but that's just me, D.


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    06-25-2012 06:58 PM
  4. Eileen89's Avatar
    I am. Stand your ground means that you can shoot someone that threatens or attacks you. He is well in his rights and the trial should prove this n
    I don't believe Zimmerman was attacked by Trayvon. That whole argument to me was thrown out the window the minute I heard about Trayvon having only a bag of Skittles in his pocket VS the "GUN" that Zimmerman had..... Zimmerman was told to watch Trayvon from a distance and not confront him, he choose not to do that and instead took the life of a kid. Whether or not Trayvon was innocent or why he was actually out that night we'll never know because he'll never get the chance to tell his side of the story. Sooo sad.
    06-25-2012 07:09 PM
  5. BLiNK's Avatar
    07-05-2012 11:46 AM
  6. pkcable's Avatar
    See, here's the thing, NONE of us know what really happened and the true facts of the case. We only know the picture that is painted by the media. Hopefully, justice is served and the process works and the jury and judge who WILL get the facts of the case can render a fair decision. THAT is what I pray for.
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    07-05-2012 04:16 PM
  7. grunt0300's Avatar
    I'm not getting into this, or i will be banned from these forums. One point that i will make... What gives any organization the right to put up "wanted posters", calling for a person's head. Regardless of the outcome of the trial, those people responsible for the posters, should be prosecuted!!!
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    07-05-2012 04:32 PM
  8. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    I don't know what really happened, but something similar happened here. A city cop shot and killed a kid for pulling a gun on him. Come to find out, it was a cap gun, but it was well past midnight in a poorly lit area of the city and all the cop saw was a kid with a gun. The city wound up having to put this man and his family into witness protection because of all the media backlash. The media took great prides in showing this kid as an innocent kindergartner when in fact, he was in his teens. They only showed this kid in his kindergarten cap and gown photo, rather than a current photo of him just before he died.

    Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the rest of the obnoxious gas bags showed up and added fuel to the fire, which is the same thing they're doing here. The same thing happened - they said the kid had a bag of Cheetos, but after repeated requests to produce the bag Sharpton and Jackson said the kid had, they never produced it. They swore up and down, and every which way from Sunday that they had that bag of Cheetos in evidence for when the "truth" came out, but they never once produced it for the prosecution or defense to use in a wrongful death suit. The cop was eventually found not guilty and was moved out of state and away from the death threats.

    The media is crucifying this man before he's even been to trial. He'll be found guilty because if he's not, God save us all.
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    07-05-2012 04:35 PM
  9. grunt0300's Avatar
    I don't believe Zimmerman was attacked by Trayvon. That whole argument to me was thrown out the window the minute I heard about Trayvon having only a bag of Skittles in his pocket VS the "GUN" that Zimmerman had..... Zimmerman was told to watch Trayvon from a distance and not confront him, he choose not to do that and instead took the life of a kid. Whether or not Trayvon was innocent or why he was actually out that night we'll never know because he'll never get the chance to tell his side of the story. Sooo sad.
    Who said that Trayvon had a bag of Skittles? Did anyone actually SEE the bag of Skittles in his pocket? Maybe the story was made up by Al (remember Tawana Brawley) Sharpton?
    07-05-2012 04:47 PM
  10. ctt1wbw's Avatar
    He's obviously guilty. He's a non black who shot and killed a black. Even though in the Pork and Beans blacks shoot and kill blacks almost on an hourly basis, that's fine. But if a black is killed by a non black, he's guilty. Doesn't matter if the black may or may not have attacked the non black, as medical photos seem to suggest...
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    07-05-2012 07:26 PM
  11. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    He's obviously guilty. He's a non black who shot and killed a black.
    I'm assuming this is sarcasm.
    Even though in the Pork and Beans blacks shoot and kill blacks almost on an hourly basis, that's fine.
    Please explain what "pork & beans" blacks are and why are they murderers in comparison to non-pork & beans blacks.
    But if a black is killed by a non black, he's guilty.
    This is what the media thrives on. It sells papers and garner watchers of their weak news programs.
    Doesn't matter if the black may or may not have attacked the non black, as medical photos seem to suggest...
    What medical photos?




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    07-05-2012 07:33 PM
  12. Eileen89's Avatar
    Who said that Trayvon had a bag of Skittles? Did anyone actually SEE the bag of Skittles in his pocket? Maybe the story was made up by Al (remember Tawana Brawley) Sharpton?
    The COPS found the bag of skittles in his pocket after a search was done while looking for a weapon on the kids person. OMG, I can't believe this is even a question here. I could care less if it was a paperclip in the kids pocket, the point is, he did not have a gun like the guy who murdered him.


    I'm not getting into this, or i will be banned from these forums
    Banned? Why would you get banned? This is a discussion forum, if the mods don't like the way it's going they can close the thread. From my stand point, it seems to be going well thus far.
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    07-05-2012 07:57 PM
  13. Eileen89's Avatar
    He's obviously guilty. He's a non black who shot and killed a black. Even though in the Pork and Beans blacks shoot and kill blacks almost on an hourly basis, that's fine. But if a black is killed by a non black, he's guilty. Doesn't matter if the black may or may not have attacked the non black, as medical photos seem to suggest...
    Now lets be honest here, this is not a case of Back or White. It's about a guy with a gun who made the poor choice of letting a crime watch go to his head. Zimmerman had no business going after Trayvon that night. He was only supposed to be "watching" the neighborhood that night, not going after someone. That is a cops job. I have a hard time feeling sorry for a guy who obviously didn't give a second thought to shooting a kid whether he was innocent that night or not.
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    07-05-2012 08:07 PM
  14. Eileen89's Avatar
    Doesn't matter if the black may or may not have attacked the non black, as medical photos seem to suggest...
    If a guy came up to you with a gun, don't tell me you wouldn't fight for your life. Hence the reason why Zimmerman had those wounds in the first place.
    07-05-2012 08:17 PM
  15. grunt0300's Avatar
    The media showed old photos of Trayvon, trying to paint him as an altar boy. In real life, i believe that he was just another thug, trying to intimidate someone. He picked on the wrong person.
    07-05-2012 08:51 PM
  16. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Whatever opinion you may have of the Trayvon / Zimmerman incident, know this: Zimmerman is innocent until "proven" guilty in a court of law! Everyone agrees that a tragedy took place, but many of us dispute the reason(s) for the tragedy. Having said that, today's news media is in the business of acquiring viewership and if that means manipulating the facts, so be it. Who cares if a city gets burned down because "actual facts" contradicted the misrepresentation of the facts that viewers were visually fed for many months? I have no idea what happened during the confrontation and I will stick by my comments in my initial post in this thread.


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    07-05-2012 09:59 PM
  17. Eileen89's Avatar
    The media showed old photos of Trayvon, trying to paint him as an altar boy. In real life, i believe that he was just another thug, trying to intimidate someone. He picked on the wrong person.
    I would have to disagree with you here. I've seen on the news multiple times about the trouble Trayvon got into including this article here. Protesters declare 'I am Trayvon Martin,' but who was he? - CNN.com While I do not believe this kid was a saint by any means, I think it's important to remember that he was a "kid" and I don't know too many kids that will go through their teenage years without a little trouble every now and then. I know I got into a LOT of trouble between 13 and 19, and I turned out all right. . It's just a shame that Trayvon won't ever get the chance to show how he would have turned out.

    Oh, and BTW, going back to the Skittles for a sec. Here is a video that shows the last few moments of Trayvon's life. He went to the store that night and bought an ice tea and the bag of skittles that was found in his pocket that night. Video: Trayvon Martin's last moments | HLNtv.com
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    07-05-2012 10:15 PM
  18. grunt0300's Avatar
    I would have to disagree with you here. I've seen on the news multiple times about the trouble Trayvon got in including this article here. Protesters declare 'I am Trayvon Martin,' but who was he? - CNN.com And while I do not believe this kid was a saint by any means, I think it's important to remember that he was a "kid" and I don't know too many kids that will go through their teenage years without a little trouble every now and then. I know I got into a LOT of trouble between 13 and 19, and I turned out all right. . It's just a shame that Trayvon won't ever get the chance to show how he would have turned out.

    Oh, and BTW, going back to the Skittles for a sec. Here is a video that shows the last few moments of Trayvon's life. He went to the store that night and bought an ice tea and the bag of skittles that was found in his pocket that night. Video: Trayvon Martin's last moments | HLNtv.com
    It all depends on your definition of "trouble". Go to L.A., and other large cities, and you'll see 13 year olds with guns. My third daughter went to college at Philly Textile ( in Fairmont Park), and i was worried about her safety, until the day that she graduated. Sorry, but i don't feel your pity. A "thug-in-training" got smoked. Too flipping bad.
    07-05-2012 10:43 PM
  19. 3under2's Avatar
    He's obviously guilty. He's a non black who shot and killed a black. Even though in the Pork and Beans blacks shoot and kill blacks almost on an hourly basis, that's fine. But if a black is killed by a non black, he's guilty. Doesn't matter if the black may or may not have attacked the non black, as medical photos seem to suggest...
    All I can say is Wow to this comment. Seems a bit judgmental and mean spirited . I'm not bugged/offended by much, but your tone on this one leaves a bit to be desired.
    Staying far away from this thread before it really turns nasty!


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    07-06-2012 01:17 AM
  20. ctt1wbw's Avatar
    Anyone watch The First 48 on the ID Channel? Pay attention to the episodes. Many of them take place in and around Miami. There's a slum area called the Pork and Beans, by the detectives, and on most episodes you'll see what I'm talking about. Blacks killing blacks all the time there and not one media outcry like the one on this Trayvon Martin case. Why is that?

    A non black killed a black and you can call me racist if you want, but I'm a realist. I pay attention to this stuff. If Zimmerman was black, there'd be no media coverage on this. But since Trayvon Martin was made out to be an angel, even though he was skipping school at the time, you get my drift.
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    07-06-2012 06:08 AM
  21. ctt1wbw's Avatar
    All I can say is Wow to this comment. Seems a bit judgmental and mean spirited . I'm not bugged/offended by much, but your tone on this one leaves a bit to be desired.
    Staying far away from this thread before it really turns nasty!


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    So if I say something factual, I'm being mean and judgmental? Explain please. I gotta hear this.
    07-06-2012 06:09 AM
  22. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Anyone watch The First 48 on the ID Channel? Pay attention to the episodes. Many of them take place in and around Miami. There's a slum area called the Pork and Beans, by the detectives, and on most episodes you'll see what I'm talking about. Blacks killing blacks all the time there and not one media outcry like the one on this Trayvon Martin case. Why is that?

    A non black killed a black and you can call me racist if you want, but I'm a realist. I pay attention to this stuff. If Zimmerman was black, there'd be no media coverage on this. But since Trayvon Martin was made out to be an angel, even though he was skipping school at the time, you get my drift.
    This particular post is more informative than your last one. Thank you for clarifying the "pork & beans" comment. I totally agree with you in regard to black on black violence and the media's unwillingness to report on it unless the killing is extremely gruesome. I also agree with you that if Zimmerman was black, the case would not garner the amount of attention it has. Why? It is because controversy sells and as I've stated earlier, the media is in the business of acquiring viewership. I would love the day when they are held accountable for the damage that their reporting/purposeful misrepresentations causes. Like you, I, too, am a realist and during my years of government work, I've seen and heard stuff you wouldn't believe. Anyway, take care and have a great day.


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    07-06-2012 08:43 AM
  23. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    So if I say something factual, I'm being mean and judgmental? Explain please. I gotta hear this.
    Look at it from the perspective of not knowing what the term "pork & beans" blacks meant. Whether the statement was factual or not is irrelevant and like Zimmerman, your post was immediately discredited due to the mental picture formed based on the words you chose to use without further explanation. Know what I mean?


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    07-06-2012 08:51 AM
  24. grunt0300's Avatar
    Look at it from the perspective of not knowing what the term "pork & beans" blacks meant. Whether the statement was factual or not is irrelevant and like Zimmerman, your post was immediately discredited due to the mental picture formed based on the words you chose to use without further explanation. Know what I mean?


    Just Me, D
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    Wait now, that's the whole point of this rebuttal. When Al Sharpton and his buddies start talking trash about someone, the media "helps" the public to form a mental picture of that individual. That picture is the one that most people believe. If someone steps forward to speak out against that picture, he or she is immediately branded as a racist. This whole incident should never have been about race, only right and wrong. The "race card", is ALWAYS played by Rev. Al, and his backers. It has bitten him in the butt before, and will again. Right or wrong, Zimmerman thought that Trayvon was acting suspiciously, so he followed him. Trayvon saw this, and tried to jump ugly with Zimmerman. After getting hit several times by Trayvon, Zimmerman defended himself with a licensed firearm. With all due respect to the Martin Family, the punk got what he deserved. If Zimmerman was a black man too, NOBODY outside of Orange Co., Fl. would have heard about what happened. THAT is the real tragedy of this case. The media is way too biased in these incidents. This is my opinion, and i'll stand behind it!
    07-06-2012 09:35 AM
  25. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    The media showed old photos of Trayvon, trying to paint him as an altar boy. In real life, i believe that he was just another thug, trying to intimidate someone. He picked on the wrong person.
    The media will play up anything to garner sympathy for the dead child. It's a tragedy no matter what the facts are that a child is dead, but it pisses me off that the media protrays a teenager as a five year old. It happened in the DeAntea Farrow shooting in my town. The kid was in his teens but every photo on every news outlet was at least ten years old. Why? A five year old getting shot garners a lot more sympathy than his real school photo showing gold chains and a huge diamond earring in his ear.

    A non black killed a black and you can call me racist if you want, but I'm a realist. I pay attention to this stuff. If Zimmerman was black, there'd be no media coverage on this. But since Trayvon Martin was made out to be an angel, even though he was skipping school at the time, you get my drift.
    I ask the same question. If Zimmerman was black and the child was white, would Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton show up and demand "justice?"

    A black cop who was on a hot call, with lights and sirens on, had the right of way and hit a white girl, killing her instantly. The girl was at fault, because she ran a stop sign and was broad sided. Nothing was ever done because the cop had the right of way and the girl was at fault.

    The DeAuntae Farrow case was a white cop shooting a black child. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the rest of his followers showed up, marched through towns holding signs and demanding that black people quit shopping in town, because it was "racist" and the city was trying to sweep the child's death under the rug. Again, the cop saw two children out at night and stopped to question as to why they were out well past curfew. One child obeyed and held up his hands, while DeAuntae pulled a gun on the cop and the cop reacted, killing him.

    Point is, during both situations, the child was at fault. The first girl ran a stop sign and was hit by a cop on a hot call. The second child drew a gun on a cop at night and got shot. It's a shame that people can't take responsibility these days and have to find someone else to blame for something that was someone else's fault.

    My only question is where did these children learn to do what they did? If Martin would have done what Zimmerman asked, which was hold up your hands and turn around, and if Farrow would have done what the two cops asked which was the same thing, hands up and turn around, both children would still be alive and Sharpton and Jackson would retreat to their caves and leave the rest of us alone.

    You bet your *** if I was ever in that situation, even being a neon white ginger, I'd do exactly what I was told. I When I get pulled over or have to go through a checkpoint, I make sure my hands are out the window at all times and every light inside my truck is on so the cop can see what I'm doing so he or she won't think I'm reaching for my 9MM rather than my insurance card. It's called common sense.
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