1. evanking527's Avatar
    Does it seem like other companies get a pass on certain things that Apple gets blasted about in the news? Every product is compared to an Apple product, which might be a good thing, but it gets boring hearing all the trash talk on Apple and making comparisons that don’t make sense. Next on the scene, the Microsoft Surface Laptop is of course compared to the Macbook Pro, but gets passes on certain critisism. Remember the riots about the Macbook Pro having only up to 16 gb of RAM? The Surface Laptop also has that same constraint (thanks to Intel), but no one is talking about that. It actually comes with only 4 gb of RAM, only 128 gb of SSD, and Intel HD graphics. Meanwhile, Apple has double the RAM and double SSD storage, and Intel Iris, capable of still powering a 5K display. IN THEIR BASE MODEL. So the Microsoft Surface Laptop is cheaper because it uses inferior parts with less storage and RAM. Apple uses far stronger ports that can transform into anything with adaptors, while the Surface Laptop gets no flack for using two underpowered retro connections. You still have to pay an additional 50 dollars to get a fully working version of Windows 10 so you can get apps, when Apple gives free upgradable software. No flack about lack of ports, and no flack about only 16 gb of RAM. Why the lack of scrutiny for Microsoft?
    Last edited by evanking527; 05-15-2017 at 02:25 PM.
    05-15-2017 12:25 PM
  2. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Apple products still have the image of being a product for people with a good deal of money because of their pricing. Their attention to detail and the quality of their devices gets overlooked and anyone who attempts to justify the pricing gets dismissed as a blind fanboy/fangirl. When the iPod and iPhone were introduced, those devices were viewed as revolutionary, and it catapulted Apple to the top of the tech mountain where it has been ever since. With that being said, all smartphones, tablets and computers will be compared to those made by Apple, whether fairly or unfairly because people tend to want to see the mighty fall.
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    05-15-2017 05:00 PM
  3. Ziich47's Avatar
    1.The Microsoft surface laptop s a very confusing product. The software it comes wth is meant to rival chrome books. It reminds me a lot of the Chromebook pixel. It is the halo product to show them how its done so to speak. The 10s software will be seen much cheaper laptops that will more directly compete with chrome books at the 100-300 price range.
    2. The MSL at 999 is not a competitor to the MacBook pro. Remember this is a computer geared towards the college crowd not professionals. They don't necessarily need the most powerful specifications. They need something that looks cool, browses the web, does some word and excel and lasts all day. Therefore I think it would be more accurate to say that it completes with the Macbook or MacBook Air.
    3. The MacBook Pro is a mature product that is geared towards professional yet does not seem to cater to what professionals want or need hence the complaints. What seems to make it worse is that it was something that apple used to do (remember the 17 inch MPB?)

    Your last point about windows 10 S is not entirely correct. First it is free to upgrade until the end of the year, second you can get apps but they have to be from the windows store. (remember they are marketing this towards the education sector on cheap and low cost computers so they do not necessarily need full windows) Apple targets that same market with iPads and you cannot upgrade iOS to Mac OS even if you wanted to pay 50 dollars.

    I understand where you are coming from so I hope this helps
    05-17-2017 10:42 AM
  4. Quis89's Avatar
    Does it seem like other companies get a pass on certain things that Apple gets blasted about in the news? Every product is compared to an Apple product, which might be a good thing, but it gets boring hearing all the trash talk on Apple and making comparisons that don’t make sense. Next on the scene, the Microsoft Surface Laptop is of course compared to the Macbook Pro, but gets passes on certain critisism. Remember the riots about the Macbook Pro having only up to 16 gb of RAM? The Surface Laptop also has that same constraint (thanks to Intel), but no one is talking about that. It actually comes with only 4 gb of RAM, only 128 gb of SSD, and Intel HD graphics. Meanwhile, Apple has double the RAM and double SSD storage, and Intel Iris, capable of still powering a 5K display. IN THEIR BASE MODEL. So the Microsoft Surface Laptop is cheaper because it uses inferior parts with less storage and RAM. Apple uses far stronger ports that can transform into anything with adaptors, while the Surface Laptop gets no flack for using two underpowered retro connections. You still have to pay an additional 50 dollars to get a fully working version of Windows 10 so you can get apps, when Apple gives free upgradable software. No flack about lack of ports, and no flack about only 16 gb of RAM. Why the lack of scrutiny for Microsoft?
    The Surface computer you're referencing isn't geared towards power users. It's a cheaper option meant to help increase Microsofts presence in education.
    05-17-2017 11:55 AM
  5. evanking527's Avatar
    The Surface computer you're referencing isn't geared towards power users. It's a cheaper option meant to help increase Microsofts presence in education.
    http://newatlas.com/apple-macbook-pr...parison/49502/

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dig...touch-bar/amp/

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/bc.marf...ro-comparison/

    http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/s...vs-macbook-pro

    https://www.google.com/amp/indianexp...-4638971/lite/

    People are still comparing it to the Macbook Pro, but perhaps whatever Microsoft does, they will never be held to the same scrutiny and Apple will not be treated fairly.
    05-18-2017 11:52 AM
  6. Spencerdl's Avatar
    Apple products still have the image of being a product for people with a good deal of money because of their pricing. Their attention to detail and the quality of their devices gets overlooked and anyone who attempts to justify the pricing gets dismissed as a blind fanboy/fangirl. When the iPod and iPhone were introduced, those devices were viewed as revolutionary, and it catapulted Apple to the top of the tech mountain where it has been ever since. With that being said, all smartphones, tablets and computers will be compared to those made by Apple, whether fairly or unfairly because people tend to want to see the mighty fall.
    Well said/written D. Oh, what D said I TOTALLY agree with.
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    05-18-2017 12:39 PM
  7. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Well said/written D. Oh, what D said I TOTALLY agree with.
    You're very welcome, sir...
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    05-18-2017 04:01 PM

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