1. Drew Satterwhite's Avatar
    I know this topic is posted everywhere, however, there doesn't seem to be any consensus. Most of it quickly turns into a pointless argument, so I thought I'd try to consolidate information and have an honest discussion. For those new to the topic, there seems to be a way to change the APN settings for T-Mobile and AT&T to allow a personal hotspot without paying the ridiculous $50/month and changing the unlimited plan.

    Here is the preliminary tutorial I found to access preferences.plist:
    Free Hotspot Tethering iPhone Feature [How to Enable it Using Hack]

    Here are the APN settings for AT&T:
    APN Settings | Tether

    Here is an older document explaining the changes needed to carrier.plist:
    [iPhone] iPhone5 AT&T GSM Tethering APN Settings? - MacRumors Forums

    I have a copy of ATT_41.1_US.ipcc and am digging through it trying to find how to disable carrierentitlements so that any changes aren't automatically reversed upon reboot.

    So where is everyone else at? Any success/tips/tricks? Can we all just figure this out!?
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    09-24-2013 08:32 AM
  2. kch50428's Avatar
    Sorry to go Captain Obvious... just get a service plan that includes tethering... real simple. And too obvious, I know... oh wait, you don't want to pay for service being rendered... never mind... And I suppose stating the obvious will be "pointless argument"...
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    09-24-2013 08:44 AM
  3. Drew Satterwhite's Avatar
    You're a mod on a forum that discusses jailbreaks and that's what you have to add? Your supposition was correct. Your valuable addition to an honest and widespread question was the beginning of a pointless argument.
    09-24-2013 09:20 AM
  4. kch50428's Avatar
    You're a mod on a forum that discusses jailbreaks and that's what you have to add? Your supposition was correct. Your valuable addition to an honest and widespread question was the beginning of a pointless argument.
    Yes, that's what I have to add... I'm one of those odd people that believes one should pay for services rendered and not seek means of circumventing carrier restrictions in order to steal service... I'm a freak... This is exactly why there's no consensus on the issue... on one hand there's the want everything free crowd...and there's my point of view. You've made your point... I've made mine. Have a nice day.
    09-24-2013 09:33 AM
  5. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    I'll have to read those instructions later. I for one have the ATT unlimited plan and would like to occasionally tether for my wifi iPad. But I on average would probably use less than 500MB this way in a given month. Considering that my monthly usage hovers around 3GB I wouldn't feel like I was abusing tethering or my unlimited usage.
    09-24-2013 10:15 AM
  6. Drew Satterwhite's Avatar
    I have already paid for it. Specifically, I am paying for it. They just want 250% more with the option of throttling me down to oblivion, not for technical or crowd issues, but as a profit center. So if my 16 years of being a loyal customer @ $100/month combined with the fact that they will rescind my legally purchased unlimited plan, whilst charging me a ridiculous amount of money can be translated to "everything free crowd" then call me Mr Welfare, because that's bull****. If you think its moral or even ethical to lock down a purchased device so that you have to pay more, you sir are misguided. What if Ford charged you per mile after you bought the car in full? Or a monthly service fee to use the air conditioner? Context Mr kch50428. You lack context.
    09-24-2013 06:02 PM
  7. Eileen89's Avatar
    Yes, that's what I have to add... I'm one of those odd people that believes one should pay for services rendered and not seek means of circumventing carrier restrictions in order to steal service... I'm a freak... This is exactly why there's no consensus on the issue... on one hand there's the want everything free crowd...and there's my point of view.
    First, you are way off base here with labeling jailbreak tethering as " stealing service". We pay for our data plan each month, if we want to download an app on our iPhones to help us maximize its usage that is our business. My wireless carrier supplies the data that I am "paying" for therefore I don't know where you are getting this "want it free" misconception of yours from. While I am not currently jailbroken due to iOS 7, rest assured when it is available again I will definitely go back to using apps like MyWi and PDA Net without regards to how nonjailbreakers feel about it.
    09-24-2013 06:27 PM
  8. prku's Avatar
    So you think paying for and using data on your mobile device should be completely separate from using the same data, from the same provider on a tethered device that you also own? Think about it, say you had a Cable provider that told you in order to have cable & internet service on more than one device in your home, that you'd have to pay for each new device accessing their service and not bundle it, would you do that or are you going to tell me what you perceive to be your concept obvious? Oh I forgot, I must be speaking with a shareholder with the same objectives and points of view as the wireless providers doing this practice... and not because it makes "Obvious" Common sense but because it makes "Obvious" $'s and Cents for their bottom line-

    Let's see if this makes it into the discussion Mr Moderator
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    11-10-2013 11:18 AM
  9. overvolt's Avatar
    Yes, that's what I have to add... I'm one of those odd people that believes one should pay for services rendered and not seek means of circumventing carrier restrictions in order to steal service... I'm a freak... This is exactly why there's no consensus on the issue... on one hand there's the want everything free crowd...and there's my point of view. You've made your point... I've made mine. Have a nice day.
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    I'm one of those odd people that believes one should pay for services rendered and not seek means of circumventing carrier restrictions

    And I'm one of those people that believes you should be able to use the data you pay for any darn way you like!
    My iPhone 5S (shared family plan) from AT&T comes with 3Gb of data. When I bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 tablet it was to use the data I wasn't using from my AT&T plan. YES the 3GB. I'm disabled and don't get out often but when I do I thought it would be nice to have a VPN so I could have a data connection for my tablet. After all, I wasn't using hardly any data which comes with my plan because I'm using my data from my router and home internet connection. My home ISP doesn't mind me using the data I buy from them to power my tablet, or anything else I decide to use it for.

    Face the facts! AT&T is JUST LIKE almost every other American company these days. They are going to nickle and dime you to the fullest extent possible. What's WORE is "The Gullible American Consumer" (my own little literary contribution) allows these companies to get by with this crap! Looks like your one of these people and sadly there are many, many more.

    I apologize to the author for contributing to the "pointless argument" he sought to avoid. My only excuse I have is this is a pet peeve for me.

    With all due respect and no malice meant.
    Regards,
    OverVolt
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    11-13-2013 12:04 PM
  10. acerace113's Avatar
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    I'm one of those odd people that believes one should pay for services rendered and not seek means of circumventing carrier restrictions

    And I'm one of those people that believes you should be able to use the data you pay for any darn way you like!
    My iPhone 5S (shared family plan) from AT&T comes with 3Gb of data. When I bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 tablet it was to use the data I wasn't using from my AT&T plan. YES the 3GB. I'm disabled and don't get out often but when I do I thought it would be nice to have a VPN so I could have a data connection for my tablet. After all, I wasn't using hardly any data which comes with my plan because I'm using my data from my router and home internet connection. My home ISP doesn't mind me using the data I buy from them to power my tablet, or anything else I decide to use it for.

    Face the facts! AT&T is JUST LIKE almost every other American company these days. They are going to nickle and dime you to the fullest extent possible. What's WORE is "The Gullible American Consumer" (my own little literary contribution) allows these companies to get by with this crap! Looks like your one of these people and sadly there are many, many more.

    I apologize to the author for contributing to the "pointless argument" he sought to avoid. My only excuse I have is this is a pet peeve for me.

    With all due respect and no malice meant.
    Regards,
    OverVolt
    The carriers here in Canada have a different view... They include tethering for free on all plans that include data cause they don't care if you go over cause it's $10/GB when you go over and they round up to the nearest GB...


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    11-13-2013 12:58 PM
  11. Spdracer's Avatar
    AT&T Shared family plans come with tethering. All you have to do is call them up and they'll provision it for you
    11-14-2013 12:27 PM
  12. Garz's Avatar
    AT&T Shared family plans come with tethering. All you have to do is call them up and they'll provision it for you
    Agreed. I have shared data and I have tethering included on all of my devices. Just straight out simple. It was a better value for me to kick the "so called unlimited" and go shared.
    11-14-2013 12:30 PM
  13. jayjigga44's Avatar
    Most of it quickly turns into a pointless argument, so I thought I'd try to consolidate information and have an honest discussion. [/I]
    As suspected, turned into a pointless arguement.
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    11-19-2013 02:17 PM
  14. mack45's Avatar
    So did you get the iphone 5s personal hotspot unlocked? If you did can you help me out?
    01-02-2014 12:12 PM
  15. i7guy's Avatar
    So you think paying for and using data on your mobile device should be completely separate from using the same data, from the same provider on a tethered device that you also own? Think about it, say you had a Cable provider that told you in order to have cable & internet service on more than one device in your home, that you'd have to pay for each new device accessing their service and not bundle it, would you do that or are you going to tell me what you perceive to be your concept obvious? Oh I forgot, I must be speaking with a shareholder with the same objectives and points of view as the wireless providers doing this practice... and not because it makes "Obvious" Common sense but because it makes "Obvious" $'s and Cents for their bottom line-

    Let's see if this makes it into the discussion Mr Moderator
    Only one post here and this is it. If one does not have a tether plan and has to pay for a tether plan and the jail break circumvents that and allows tether without paying the fee..that is stealing.
    01-02-2014 03:18 PM
  16. natasftw's Avatar
    Only one post here and this is it. If one does not have a tether plan and has to pay for a tether plan and the jail break circumvents that and allows tether without paying the fee..that is stealing.
    Hush.
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    01-03-2014 07:05 AM
  17. kch50428's Avatar
    Hush.
    Physician, heal thyself.
    01-03-2014 09:21 AM
  18. natasftw's Avatar
    Physician, heal thyself.
    Ironic Keith. I say something suggesting the debate has gone well beyond a worthwhile point. Rather than suggesting the one trying to stir it up needs to stop, you suggest I need to.

    It's no wonder the people in these threads that have a chance to be helpful tend to grow tired of dealing with you.
    sinfool likes this.
    01-03-2014 07:34 PM
  19. kch50428's Avatar
    You telling someone else to "hush" is laughable.
    01-03-2014 07:54 PM
  20. John Yester's Avatar
    I hope we are done..... let's move on fellas
    01-03-2014 08:48 PM
  21. i7guy's Avatar
    Ironic Keith. I say something suggesting the debate has gone well beyond a worthwhile point. Rather than suggesting the one trying to stir it up needs to stop, you suggest I need to.

    It's no wonder the people in these threads that have a chance to be helpful tend to grow tired of dealing with you.
    This site does not condone any discussion of app stealing, the same should apply to carrier stealing, which the op clearly states. If the premise of the ops post was apps in the App Store, there would be locked threads and bans handed out. What makes this so different?
    01-04-2014 08:41 AM
  22. 3cit's Avatar
    Does anybody have any idea how hard it is for me to keep my very loud mouth shut on this topic?

    Why is tethering from your phone any different than splicing your cable inside your own house?

    Also, the AT&T discussion is a moot point as it has been clearly demonstrated AT&T will financially penalize or throttle users using unauthorized tethering
    01-04-2014 01:52 PM
  23. natasftw's Avatar
    This site does not condone any discussion of app stealing, the same should apply to carrier stealing, which the op clearly states. If the premise of the ops post was apps in the App Store, there would be locked threads and bans handed out. What makes this so different?
    I've explained, in detail, what makes this different. If you'd like further explanation, I've given you a route to get it. My message box is still empty. Bringing this to another thread won't make things any less annoying to the public.
    01-04-2014 02:37 PM
  24. i7guy's Avatar
    If you want to continue this, create another thread in off topic forum, as some of us understand others don't.
    01-04-2014 03:38 PM
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    02-23-2014 11:43 PM
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