1. 3cit's Avatar
    I don't think people understand this thread.
    Ncsettings does toggles, and a limited amount. Granted it's a widget, so you can place it on your springboard, if you're into that sort of thing.
    The look is better, however you can theme sbsettings to a a similar of not identical look.
    The few of you who are complaining about all the "extra junk"
    Are you kidding? It's a menu!
    With the ability to slightly tweak the status bar. With the ability to flip a few switches.
    And with the ability to disable mobile substrate code app by app which if you are jailbroken, you should have.
    It's not full of "bloat ware".
    Sbsettings is the bees knees.
    Not the doggies dangles!
    Also you decide what exactly is in your notification center!
    From nothing at all to every toggle under the sun!
    You can also NEVER EVER SEE sbsettings if you choose. Where is all this talk about it cluttering up your screen coming from?
    02-17-2013 12:52 PM
  2. kch50428's Avatar
    Some people don't want to use SBS... Big whoop. It's their choice - and it doesn't make someone evil incarnate user of "dangles" for not seeing things your way... smh.
    02-17-2013 12:59 PM
  3. Highrisedrifter's Avatar
    Now let's all hug and move on.
    02-17-2013 01:22 PM
  4. Sharma15's Avatar
    I agree SBSettings is feature packed, but ncsettings integrates with the iOS look more and is more for the simple jail breakers who don't have much knowledge to mess around with a lot of stuff.

    I use to use isx quick settings in top shelf because you could add sbsettings toggles to it easier but for a couple of days now I've been using ncsettings and it works better. I had toggles for callbar, my3g, location services, bitesms etc but I realized that I never turned these things off... Ever. Ncsettings looks cleaner and works better for what I need it for, which is just simple toggles for connections and features like auto lock, respring, restarting, etc.
    NC Settings is useless, Compared to SBSettings-imageuploadedbytapatalk1361126483.458602.jpg
    02-17-2013 01:41 PM
  5. mrburns05's Avatar
    Lmao! Sounds more like biased, opinionated and ignorant. Just saying. Forget about knowing "how the jailbreak system works" ~ that's irrelevant, you have made no points, only statements of personal opinion. The day sbs becomes absolutely necessary will be the day "jailbreaking " is more like "moving to cell block B"
    02-17-2013 02:51 PM
  6. 3cit's Avatar
    02-18-2013 02:33 AM
  7. miah84's Avatar
    Sbsettings is the one for me. Haven't tried nc and don't need too, but it is nice to have options.
    NC Settings is useless, Compared to SBSettings-imageuploadedbytapatalk1361176604.274700.jpg
    I think it looks pretty good.


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    02-18-2013 03:37 AM
  8. miah84's Avatar
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    How did you get the toggles like this? Looks nice.


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    02-18-2013 03:39 AM
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    I will concede that looks a lot better than the default display options, granted. Can you decrease the depth of the bar though? That bar uses up far too much screen real estate. If it was the same depth, or preferably smaller, than the weather bar below it, it would be fine. The NC Settings bar is not much deeper than the mail/calendar/reminder/etc title bar
    02-18-2013 04:16 AM
  10. iPetem's Avatar
    Keep getting this error message when trying to access options. Any help?


    Moderator Edit: Error message text: "Permissions Error - An ad blocking host file is installed. The app cannot run this way. Would you like to unlock the elements we need? (The app will need to be restarted after.) Buttons: Yes, Fix me. | No.
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    02-18-2013 10:40 AM
  11. 3cit's Avatar
    Keep getting this error message when trying to access options. Any help?


    Moderator Edit: Error message text: "Permissions Error - An ad blocking host file is installed. The app cannot run this way. Would you like to unlock the elements we need? (The app will need to be restarted after.) Buttons: Yes, Fix me. | No.
    I'm assuming you mean sbsettings, just click yes.
    Also Adblock is no longer supported nor endorsed through cydia
    Last edited by 3cit; 02-18-2013 at 02:40 PM.
    02-18-2013 01:04 PM
  12. 3cit's Avatar
    Additionally, just to make things clear here, i understand why people like the simplicity, and tools and look offered by ncsettings and if that's the route you choose, then terrific.
    It's just that there is already a very well developed, supported, and widely used BETTER tweak that does all the same things. In addition, pretty much every major theme comes with a sbsettings theme, so of you're a themer it fits better with the overall look.
    02-18-2013 01:08 PM
  13. natasftw's Avatar
    I will concede that looks a lot better than the default display options, granted. Can you decrease the depth of the bar though? That bar uses up far too much screen real estate. If it was the same depth, or preferably smaller, than the weather bar below it, it would be fine. The NC Settings bar is not much deeper than the mail/calendar/reminder/etc title bar
    Are you using NCSettings in a way completely different than I use SBSettings?

    You keep bringing up screen real estate. When I don't plan to use a specific tool from SBSettings, I don't drop the menu down. At that point, it uses 0% of my screen. When I want to use a tool, it might as well use my entire screen because I'm focusing on that tool anyway. Once I've made the change, it goes back to 0% of my screen at ALL other times.

    Conversely, NCSettings attaches itself to my Notification Center, whether or not I need to use a tool offered by NCSettings or not. There are times I use my NC where I wouldn't be making a change with NCSettings. During those times, NCSettings uses MORE screen real estate than SBSettings ever will. When I drop the NC purely for the use of a tool within NCSettings, this is no different than dropping the SBSettings menu.

    Adding SBSettings to the NC as he's done, they're similarly intrusive. But, someone focused SOLELY on screen real estate cannot logically choose NCSettings. What am I missing from how you use it?
    02-18-2013 01:28 PM
  14. Massie's Avatar
    Are you using NCSettings in a way completely different than I use SBSettings?

    You keep bringing up screen real estate. When I don't plan to use a specific tool from SBSettings, I don't drop the menu down. At that point, it uses 0% of my screen. When I want to use a tool, it might as well use my entire screen because I'm focusing on that tool anyway. Once I've made the change, it goes back to 0% of my screen at ALL other times.

    Conversely, NCSettings attaches itself to my Notification Center, whether or not I need to use a tool offered by NCSettings or not. There are times I use my NC where I wouldn't be making a change with NCSettings. During those times, NCSettings uses MORE screen real estate than SBSettings ever will. When I drop the NC purely for the use of a tool within NCSettings, this is no different than dropping the SBSettings menu.

    Adding SBSettings to the NC as he's done, they're similarly intrusive. But, someone focused SOLELY on screen real estate cannot logically choose NCSettings. What am I missing from how you use it?
    He's just pointing out that for someone who wants to keep the toggles in the Notification Center, SBSettings' toggles are much bigger than NC Settings' toggles. Many people would prefer to use these from the NC instead of relegating an Activator action to the SBS drop down window. What you see as "similarly intrusive" he sees as SBS being "more intrusive." From a design standpoint, I agree.

    For what it's worth, I agree that SBS does more--I think that's obvious. But design matters, and "more" on its own is not better for everyone. If it were, we might all be using Android devices.
    Last edited by Massie; 02-18-2013 at 02:48 PM.
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    02-18-2013 02:16 PM
  15. 3cit's Avatar
    I can't seem to make the sbsettings "box" smaller. I resized the weeappbackground in library/plugins/sbsettings from 18x152 to 18x92 (same size as ncsettings) but there was no effect in notification center so maybe there's a second location somewhere? Anybody know?
    02-18-2013 02:38 PM
  16. Rockdog97's Avatar
    I use both... NC Settings to add twitter/FB/RSS feeds as well as weather info to my pulldown menu/screen.
    SB settings for quick access to other 'toggles.'
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    02-18-2013 02:48 PM
  17. natasftw's Avatar
    He's just pointing out that for someone who wants to keep the toggles in the Notification Center, SBSettings' toggles are much bigger than NC Settings' toggles. Many people would prefer to use these from the NC instead of relegating an Activator action to the SBS drop down window. What you see as "similarly intrusive" he sees as SBS being "more intrusive." From a design standpoint, I agree.
    .
    You're using "much" rather liberally. There's room for another four apps worth of notifications before the dock. If his dock isn't accessible, there's room for six. From a design perspective, the loss of one app worth of notifications isn't an issue. If you need more than ten, you need to clear out a couple to begin with.

    I understand everything is up to personal taste and interpretation. Yet, the two are similar. One offers more functionality without dragging your phone down. Why take the inferior product that brings the same cost?
    02-18-2013 03:09 PM
  18. iPetem's Avatar
    I'm assuming you mean sbsettings, just click yes.
    Also Adblock is no longer supported nor endorsed through cydia
    Hmm, I'm not aware that I'm using any adblocking stuff.
    02-18-2013 03:26 PM
  19. natasftw's Avatar
    Keep getting this error message when trying to access options. Any help?


    Moderator Edit: Error message text: "Permissions Error - An ad blocking host file is installed. The app cannot run this way. Would you like to unlock the elements we need? (The app will need to be restarted after.) Buttons: Yes, Fix me. | No.
    It would appear the app thinks you have adblock running.
    02-18-2013 03:32 PM
  20. Massie's Avatar
    You're using "much" rather liberally. There's room for another four apps worth of notifications before the dock. If his dock isn't accessible, there's room for six. From a design perspective, the loss of one app worth of notifications isn't an issue. If you need more than ten, you need to clear out a couple to begin with.

    I understand everything is up to personal taste and interpretation. Yet, the two are similar. One offers more functionality without dragging your phone down. Why take the inferior product that brings the same cost?
    Obviously, I don't think it's inferior. I actually have both on my device, but I use nc settings in my day to day use because I prefer its style, and although I keep sbsettings installed I have yet to find myself in a situation where I've had to use it. It's nice that it's there but why use it day to day if I enjoy a "similar" app more? The argument that "this does more so it's better" doesn't mean much to me.
    02-18-2013 03:45 PM
  21. natasftw's Avatar
    The argument that it looks prettier, while ignoring you can change the look of sbsettings, makes absolutely no sense to me.

    What gain do you see from running both over running a themed sbsettings?

    What gain do you see from running ncsettings alone versus running a themed sbsettings?
    02-18-2013 04:42 PM
  22. patricksmangan's Avatar
    I use both, ncsettings in my nc, & some sbsettings assigned to activator actions. Btw is there a sbsettings for flashlight toggle that I can use with activator & that'll work with the screen off?
    02-18-2013 05:51 PM
  23. patricksmangan's Avatar
    Also, I think nicer looking, easier to set up, or more functional tweaks that continue to come out make the jailbreak experience better for plain Jane users no matter what they choose, & creates a market for developers. I think that this is a useless argument for for the sake of argument.
    02-18-2013 05:56 PM
  24. natasftw's Avatar
    I use both, ncsettings in my nc, & some sbsettings assigned to activator actions. Btw is there a sbsettings for flashlight toggle that I can use with activator & that'll work with the screen off?
    I haven't seen one in sbsettings. You can easily add one of the 8billion flashlight apps and set something like "hold both volume" to open the flashlight app?
    02-18-2013 06:18 PM
  25. patricksmangan's Avatar
    I haven't seen one in sbsettings. You can easily add one of the 8billion flashlight apps and set something like "hold both volume" to open the flashlight app?
    I've done that,
    But At least with the app I have, the flashlight turns off if you turn off the screen
    02-18-2013 06:26 PM
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